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Well, first off are we using the 4-3?

Second...think about the corners in the East.

Third...your QB is dead, regardless of who you go with.

LE Pierre-Paul

DT Jenkins

DT Canty

RE Babin

OLB Ware

MLB Fletcher

OLB Orakpo

CB Asomugha

CB Webster

FS Rolle

SS Philips

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I'm going to say 4-3 with a little 3-4 thrown in every now and then. that way Ware and company have a chance to do what they do best also.

No denying, that would be a badazz defense.

The NFCS offense though isn't a slouch.. Brees behind an Oline even more elite than the one he's normally behind.. With SS89, Colston, White and JJ to sling to at WR........ or, Graham and Tony G at TE. Or.. handing off or dumping it to either Sproles, Stewart or Tolbert.

I think the NFCE pass rush will be so concerned with beating the h3ll out of Brees, that they won't be able to contain the quick strikes.

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I'm going to say 4-3 with a little 3-4 thrown in every now and then. that way Ware and company have a chance to do what they do best also.

No denying, that would be a badazz defense.

The NFCS offense though isn't a slouch.. Brees behind an Oline even more elite than the one he's normally behind.. With SS89, Colston, White and JJ to sling to at WR........ or, Graham and Tony G at TE. Or.. handing off or dumping it to either Sproles, Stewart or Tolbert.

I think the NFCE pass rush will be so concerned with beating the h3ll out of Brees, that they won't be able to contain the quick strikes.

Yeah are forgetting the CBs we have. Asomugha, DRC, Carr, Claiborne, Webster, Hall, etc.

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I think the NFCE offense would destroy an all NFCS defense.

QB Eli Manning (ugh I hate to say it, but 2 Super Bowls)

RB LeSean McCoy

FB Lawrence Vickers

WR Dez Bryant

WR Hakeem Nicks

(Id put DeSean and Cruz in the slot)

TE Brent Celek

LT Tyron Smith

LG

C

RG

RT Trent Williams

You can help me out with the Oline...

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Well, first off are we using the 4-3?

Second...think about the corners in the East.

Third...your QB is dead, regardless of who you go with.

LE Pierre-Paul

DT Jenkins

DT Canty

RE Babin

OLB Ware

MLB Fletcher

OLB Orakpo

CB Asomugha

CB Webster

FS Rolle

SS Philips

With all due respect to London Fletcher, I think if it was a 4-3 scheme...DeMeco Ryans would be the starter @ MIKE

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With all due respect to London Fletcher, I think if it was a 4-3 scheme...DeMeco Ryans would be the starter @ MIKE

London Fletcher - Solo 96 Assists 70 Total 166 Sacks 1.5 Pass Deflectons 10 INTs 2

Sean Lee - Solo 71 Assists 34 Total 105 Sacks 0 Pass Deflections 11 INTs 4

DeMeco Ryans - Solo 44 Assists 20 Total 64 Sacks 0 Pass Deflections 4 INTs 0

Come again?

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QB Eli Manning (ugh I hate to say it, but 2 Super Bowls)

RB LeSean McCoy

FB Lawrence Vickers

WR Dez Bryant

WR Hakeem Nicks

(Id put DeSean and Cruz in the slot)

TE Brent Celek

LT Tyron Smith

LG

C

RG

RT Trent Williams

You can help me out with the Oline...

Replace Dez Bryant with Cruz or Jackson

Replace Celek with Witten...

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QB Eli Manning (ugh I hate to say it, but 2 Super Bowls)

RB LeSean McCoy

FB Lawrence Vickers

WR Dez Bryant

WR Hakeem Nicks

(Id put DeSean and Cruz in the slot)

TE Brent Celek

LT Tyron Smith

LG

C

RG

RT Trent Williams

You can help me out with the Oline...

I'd also replace Smith with Peters @ LT (unless we are only counting players that are healthy)

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Replace Dez Bryant with Cruz or Jackson

Replace Celek with Witten...

I think having the tougher WRs on the outside to beat the press would be better. Then you let the speed guys eat up the middle of the field. Thats just my offensive philosophy.

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Peters has been hurt the last 2 years. Would you trust him enough to protect your QB?

He hasn't been seriously hurt until he just recently ruptured his Achilles. Every player gets nicked from time to time. That's why, for this thread, I asked if only currently healthy players qualified.

If you are just going off rosters, with no thought to current health, Jason Peters is the starting LT.

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I think having the tougher WRs on the outside to beat the press would be better. Then you let the speed guys eat up the middle of the field. Thats just my offensive philosophy.

That's fine...

But my philosophy would be to have a physical guy like Nicks on one side, and a burner on the other...

As for the slot, I like a guy that is both physical and quick.

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The NFCS is going to have Drew Brees, Turner combined with Carolina's backfield, one of the more freakish groups of receivers to ever be grouped together in a division, and an offensive line that can give Brees time. The NFCE could certainly rush the passer but it wouldn't get every-down pressure and it wouldn't stop the run against the stars of the NFCS. On the other hand, enough pieces between the Falcons and few from the Saints and Bucs on defense would be monstrous against the run with a premier back seven, and there's enough pass rushers between the Falcons, Panthers, and Saints to get the job done. I see the NFCS team being the better bet because it's going to be tougher in the running game on both sides of the ball and Drew Brees throwing to the best receivers from his own team along with SS89, White, JJ and Gonzalez would be impossible against just about any defense.

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He hasn't been seriously hurt until he just recently ruptured his Achilles. Every player gets nicked from time to time. That's why, for this thread, I asked if only currently healthy players qualified.

If you are just going off rosters, with no thought to current health, Jason Peters is the starting LT.

Thats fair, honestly, I dont know many Oline players outside of Dallas. I forgot about Peters. Oline isnt one of the positions I really pay that much attention to....

Until Tony is on the ground or our RBs get stuffed.

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That's fine...

But my philosophy would be to have a physical guy like Nicks on one side, and a burner on the other...

As for the slot, I like a guy that is both physical and quick.

Well, you just put a guy that only dropped one pass down to being a 4th WR at best.

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The NFCS is going to have Drew Brees, Turner combined with Carolina's backfield, one of the more freakish groups of receivers to ever be grouped together in a division, and an offensive line that can give Brees time. The NFCE could certainly rush the passer but it wouldn't get every-down pressure and it wouldn't stop the run against the stars of the NFCS. On the other hand, enough pieces between the Falcons and few from the Saints and Bucs on defense would be monstrous against the run with a premier back seven, and there's enough pass rushers between the Falcons, Panthers, and Saints to get the job done. I see the NFCS team being the better bet because it's going to be tougher in the running game on both sides of the ball and Drew Brees throwing to the best receivers from his own team along with SS89, White, JJ and Gonzalez would be impossible against just about any defense.

Combine the Redskins, Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys pass rushers...no need for anything else. If you think you can build an Oline that can keep those rushers at bay for 4 quarters, have at it. There is no way youll want to throw at our secondary.

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Combine the Redskins, Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys pass rushers...no need for anything else. If you think you can build an Oline that can keep those rushers at bay for 4 quarters, have at it. There is no way youll want to throw at our secondary.

Find a weakness:

LE Pierre-Paul

DT Jenkins

DT Canty

RE Babin

OLB Ware

MLB Fletcher

OLB Orakpo

CB Asomugha

CB Webster

FS Rolle

SS Philips

I'm running straight up the middle with Turner behind Nicks, Kalil and Evans, and no one in there is doing a d@mn thing about it. Once I've knocked those pass-rushers around and brought the safeties down in the box, I'm putting one up over the top to SS89 or JJ.

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I'm running straight up the middle with Turner behind Nicks, Kalil and Evans, and no one in there is doing a d@mn thing about it. Once I've knocked those pass-rushers around and brought the safeties down in the box, I'm putting one up over the top to SS89 or JJ.

vs the run

NFCE - Yards per game 112.7 TDs 51

NFCS - Yards per game 123.1 TDs 65

Have fun with that...its not like no one in this division can stop the run.

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vs the run

NFCE - Yards per game 112.7

NFCS - Yards per game 123.1

Have fun with that...its not like no one in this division can stop the run.

I wouldn't trust the team you picked with getting that job done. Ware and Orakpo as OLB's in a 4-3, with London Fletcher in the middle and a bunch of pass-rushers in front of him? NFCE's second unit might have some quality run-stuffers but I'd make them show it running down the first team's throat, and I'm airing it out when that happens.

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I wouldn't trust the team you picked with getting that job done. Ware and Orakpo as OLB's in a 4-3, with London Fletcher in the middle and a bunch of pass-rushers in front of him? NFCE's second unit might have some quality run-stuffers but I'd make them show it running down the first team's throat, and I'm airing it out when that happens.

I didnt say wed run a 4-3 thats just the most common alignment. Me personally, I LOVE the 46, but a defensive alignment wasnt part of the discussion. Still, thinking that you can just run over an all star team made of better run stuffers than your team has, is kind of ridiculous. As a division the East averaged less yards a game than the South did. What do you think that equates to when you put only the best of them on the field?

Airing out against who? Who would you pick on in our secondary?

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I didnt say wed run a 4-3 thats just the most common alignment. Me personally, I LOVE the 46.

That would certainly make it easier for Brees and his receivers. The NFCE has some good corners but it would take some genuine freaks to be able to cover Smith, Graham, and JJ on a given play, and the guy in the NFCE that I would have wanted on Smith if my team's survival depended on guarding him one-on-one plays for the Falcons now.

That said, we wouldn't run all over the East's best run-stuffers, but the East can't field its best run-stuffers and pass rushers at the same time when several of the best pass rushers are 3-4 OLBs and pass-rush specialists, while the South can field several great running backs behind a great interior offensive line and still field Drew Brees and any number of great receivers, with incredible versatility because Gonzalez can block and catch, and Graham can catch and line up anywhere. I wouldn't trust Asomugha after last year or Webster to be able to cover Smith or JJ one-on-one against Drew Brees, and he's going to find them one-on-one.

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3-4 Alignment

LE - Canty

NT - Jenkins

RE - Ratliff

OLB - Ware

ILB - Lee

ILB - Fletcher

OLB - Orakpo

CB Asomugha

CB Webster

FS Rolle

SS Philips

4-3 Alignment

LE Pierre-Paul

DT Ratliff

DT Canty

RE Ware

OLB Boley

MLB Fletcher

OLB Kiwanuka

CB Asomugha

CB Webster

FS Rolle

SS Philips

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