Statick 13,285 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 OH NO.I can't believe this. The same way Duerson died. I just can't believe he would do that to himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robb4242 2,701 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I believe it he had some depression issues for some time. I saw him on a couple of shows and he looked sharp. Definitely didn't look like Romanowski.Was going to say this. When I lived in San Diego, and he was playing there earlier in his career there was talk about that. Supposedly he had some issues with depression at USC as well. I don't think this is concussion related, at least not completely unless it's pre-NFL concussions.Very sad though, he was one of my favorite players. I met him a couple of times & he seemed like a really great guy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alwaysAfalconfan 11 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I am so sad at this news. He is one of the BEST linebackers to ever play football.I remember playing Madden and always making a trade for Seau so I could play defense with him.Just a great player. He will be missed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gritz Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 It's truly sad....and I echo SiViK's sentiments.....Like probably virtually everyone else on here I've had some brutally tough things in my life I've had to battle and overcome....Quite frankly I'm being challenged right now with some excruciatingly hard stuff, but when you have a child or children, a partner who loves and has stuck by you through it all, you gotta find a way to get help to get through....R.I.P. Junior.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B_ELLIS24 247 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I found out on Twitter. Unbelievable! One of the best LB's of the 90s and 00s! RIP Junior Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ArthursMoustache 513 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I might can agree on some level about regular life being different, but in no way is it dull in comparison. Especially for those of us blessed enough to have children in our lives. That is the single most special and exciting thing I have ever been a part of or will be. I cannot grasp the thought of living my child forever by my own hands, cannot do it. There is no way. There is something going on there that provides a disconnect somehow. I'm sure he loved his kids, I'm not doubting that. But, there has to be something else that keeps him from being able to understand being away from your kids forever. Actually following through with it is the thing I cannot get, I'm sure he had thoughts of his kids at some point during contemplating ending his own life but apparently lacked whatever it was to make him realize nothing is more important than being a parent and being there for them no matter how tough your life is or seems to be. Not even football, or in this case, the lack there of.^Well said, but from a clear and pragmatic place. As someone who was unemployed for 18mos you question your value when all you know is no longer. I can't walk a mile in his/others shoes..just able to understand the feelings of hopelessness. He played for 20 years! Walking away was tough. Retired 5 yrs before truly retiring. In any event #sadness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Acards 0 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 RIP very sad, drugs, steroids and liquor can be dangerous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy 18,277 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Wow! I lived in South Florida for years. I was a fan of the man - this is very sad and my heart goes out to his family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadyman 41 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Just watched his mother speak. This is very sad news, her only son. Just heartbreaking. RIP Junior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dardan 298 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 A great player and a good person. This is a sad turn of events. All the best to his family and friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FlyDirty 87 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Truly...just gut-wrenchingly sad. Best wishes and prayers to his family and those that loved him.I remember his glory years and always respected how he played the game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus182 15 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Crazy News... RIP Junior Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g-dawg 43,257 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 wow, hate to hear this - Junior Seau was a beast of a linebacker - hate to hear that his personal life was in turmoil enough to lead him to taking his own life. I always liked him as a player - pray for his children as I know they will miss their dad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russdogg 1,090 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 sad. depression is no joke. prayers for his family. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChickenBiscuit 6,129 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Self-inflicted chest wounds.He killed himself. **** shame.http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/02/report-of-shooting-at-seaus-home/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 27,853 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Sad, shocking and a terrible shame he was unable to get help before making this tragic decision. RIP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy Gossett 919 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 OMG ... I can't believe this.I know a lot of people suffer from depression after leaving the NFL due to not having that structure in their lives. I know Morton Anderson has had issues with this as well.RIP Junior Seau. This would have been the last person I would think would have this type of issue. Very sad day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ 1,022 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 ^Well said, but from a clear and pragmatic place. As someone who was unemployed for 18mos you question your value when all you know is no longer. I can't walk a mile in his/others shoes..just able to understand the feelings of hopelessness. He played for 20 years! Walking away was tough. Retired 5 yrs before truly retiring. In any event #sadness.That is why I feel like I can comment on this a little bit, I have had some rough dark spots in my life and have had those feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness but I don't have time for that and know what my true purpose is. This isn't really why I am in this thread commenting anyway. I just wanted to say that there is no way he was just like " oh well football is done, 9-5 sucks and i'm going to end it all" and if it was really like that I'm saying there is something wrong making him think that and act on it, not the dullness of "regular" life itself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller2Rison 3,359 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 very sad and i know it can depressing going from the nfl to retired prob not conussion related walter peyton was very depressed when he retired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Wilson 7,793 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 I might can agree on some level about regular life being different, but in no way is it dull in comparison. Especially for those of us blessed enough to have children in our lives. That is the single most special and exciting thing I have ever been a part of or will be. I cannot grasp the thought of living my child forever by my own hands, cannot do it. There is no way. There is something going on there that provides a disconnect somehow. I'm sure he loved his kids, I'm not doubting that. But, there has to be something else that keeps him from being able to understand being away from your kids forever. Actually following through with it is the thing I cannot get, I'm sure he had thoughts of his kids at some point during contemplating ending his own life but apparently lacked whatever it was to make him realize nothing is more important than being a parent and being there for them no matter how tough your life is or seems to be. Not even football, or in this case, the lack there of.SO I can certainly atest to what you are saying as it pertains to my life but I also know that we are not all wired the same way.I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. I divorced in 2000 and I had a 5 year old daughter at the time who is now 17. I had moved to Alabama because it was my ex-wifes home.When I divorced my brother asked me why I didn't move back home. I replied,"I could not imagine being that far away from my daughter". He said to me, "I would have never have looked back". That wouldn't even have entered into his thinking process. He and I were raised by the same parents but we are wired totally different. Some peoples identities are found in their careers, some in their spouses, some in their kids, and some in thier service (churches, charities, organizations, etc.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrJay 154 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 i for one will not look at his career of football but will dive more into the type of man he was as a whole. I think a lot of people miss that aspect of the lives of athletes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill 271 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 SO I can certainly atest to what you are saying as it pertains to my life but I also know that we are not all wired the same way.I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. I divorced in 2000 and I had a 5 year old daughter at the time who is now 17. I had moved to Alabama because it was my ex-wifes home.When I divorced my brother asked me why I didn't move back home. I replied,"I could not imagine being that far away from my daughter". He said to me, "I would have never have looked back". That wouldn't even have entered into his thinking process. He and I were raised by the same parents but we are wired totally different. Some peoples identities are found in their careers, some in their spouses, some in their kids, and some in thier service (churches, charities, organizations, etc.)So true. I have lots of friends who are retiring or unemployed. Many of them miss routine and social interaction of their teammates to the point of depression. Others never look back, and are so thankful that they are out of the grind.I say: find a second career in broadcasting or something, if you are depressed. It is not worth it to kill yourself. How sad. R.I.P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SiViK_OuTkAsT™ 1,022 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 SO I can certainly atest to what you are saying as it pertains to my life but I also know that we are not all wired the same way.I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about. I divorced in 2000 and I had a 5 year old daughter at the time who is now 17. I had moved to Alabama because it was my ex-wifes home.When I divorced my brother asked me why I didn't move back home. I replied,"I could not imagine being that far away from my daughter". He said to me, "I would have never have looked back". That wouldn't even have entered into his thinking process. He and I were raised by the same parents but we are wired totally different. Some peoples identities are found in their careers, some in their spouses, some in their kids, and some in thier service (churches, charities, organizations, etc.)That in itself is almost what I speak of....the ability to detach like that. Not sure saying something is wrong with the person that thinks that way is the correct way to put it but I don't know how else to describe it. I personally just cannot understand that thinking and guess that is the reason I see it as "abnormal". So sad that no one in his family saw this coming and he didn't try to reach out for help, or maybe he did and we just don't know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
takeitdown 4,190 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 That is why I feel like I can comment on this a little bit, I have had some rough dark spots in my life and have had those feelings of worthlessness and hopelessness but I don't have time for that and know what my true purpose is. This isn't really why I am in this thread commenting anyway. I just wanted to say that there is no way he was just like " oh well football is done, 9-5 sucks and i'm going to end it all" and if it was really like that I'm saying there is something wrong making him think that and act on it, not the dullness of "regular" life itself.That's not what I was saying in my comment. My point was and is, there is a much more difficult transition back to normal life than people want to admit. It happens in sports, soldiers, even bands. You go from having structure, communal purpose, and a group you're completely with...and then you don't. It doesn't make it ok to off yourself. I was just providing more context.I assume people know enough about depression, and the fact that you're not thinking very well if you're in serious depression (clouds judgement and make it seem like you've felt that way forever, even if you were fine 3 weeks ago). Thought it might be worthwhile to also think about how hard a transition it really is.No one thinks, oh well 9 to 5 sucks, let me off myself. Just like no one thinks, oh well, lost my job let me off myself. But often suicides come after people lose their jobs. It's not the loss of job. It's the loss of purpose, loss of self worth, sending people into a depression. I don't condone it, because I believe if your situation is giving you problems...no matter how hard it is, change your situation. On the other hand, I don't like to minimize the problems other people go through. And some keep trying to find other things in life that will fill that same level of excitement...when it would be far better to acknowledge things aren't likely to be as "exciting" going forward, but can be very rewarding. That way, instead of chasing something you won't find and being perpetually disappointed, you readjust your sights, and find things that can make you content. Regardless, sad to see him, and too many football players go before their time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre5000 1,008 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Im sorry but im neither sad nor sorry when someone takes their own life. Life is a gift. Im glad to be breathing and feel lucky to be here. I almost find it insulting when someone offs themselves. No pity from me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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