MrJay Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Kendall Reyes why because the guy can come in and have impact right away also adds depth to the defensive line that needs a sh*tload of help right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Depends on who is available honestly. I'm kinda split between: whatever the best DT is, Chris Polk, or Dwayne Allen. My choice would be one of those three, but it would depend on who is there. My "why" is the same as others: I want someone who can make an immediate impact in the 1st year and challenge for a starting job by the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) Honestly, I have no idea.Most people immediately assume that players who have size and athleticism are immediately going to do well, but you have to look for much more than that. There are a nothing but physical, advanced players in the NFL and in order to find true NFL-level talent you have to look at all the good, and then look at the bad.We all looked at the physical aspect of Peria Jerry and said "Wow! This kid is gonna be phenomenal", then he turned into, what appears to be, a bust. You have to look at the players intelligence, how he responds under pressure (Which he'll be in ALOT in the NFL), if he is a motivator, a hard worker and willing to improve. One of the things I like about Corey Peters is the way the guy works and constantly improves. I think he showed flashes of his potential, but with that, was constant improvement. In order to find a good prospect at #55 you have to look at what you can improve and what can not be improved. Work ethic isn't taught, you either have it or you don't. Leadership is another thing that usually isn't taught. Agility, football intelligence, strength, footwork and elusiveness are all things that can be taught over time.This is part of the reason I don't think Dontari Poe will do that well his first season. He doesn't pack much other than raw talent and a decent work ethic, I could definitely see him majorly improving over the time of his career, but his first season will mostly be him learning the way the game in the NFL is played and how much more athletic/strong/smart NFL linemen are.D-Linemen are all mostly big and athletic, but they're going up against some of the biggest strongest linemen in the world, they have to have more than just raw athleticism.So, in other words, I'd take a DT who I know has the tools and the will to improve. Not looking for a quick plug 'N play second rounder, because those usually don't pan out well. You have to clear a path before you pave. Edited March 27, 2012 by ChickenBiscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didz Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Depending on the board. My pick goes too..... Brandon Washington. He will be the RG of maybe today but for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Josh Robinson, CB, UCFNolan puts a premium on CB's especially with the passing game the way it is. Robinson is lightning fast and plays very physical. He's a playmaker. He also has the ability to contribute on special teams as a return option... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I want Vinny Curry myself. Because he is a solid pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) I'm down with either of these two.Curry or Robinson. Edited March 27, 2012 by The O.D.B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 This is the first draft in years that I really have no interest in. Just not a great class. Besides, I've been pretty disappointed in FA, with the lack of attention to the LT situation. I'm just going to let it be a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogie Man Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Late in the 2nd rd with no 1st you take the highest rated player left on your board that doesn't play QB or DT. No we don't need a RB nor a TE this year, but we will soon. We are many players away from a SB run. Drafting purely for need is how we ended up with Jamal Anderson, Baker and Jerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I want Vinny Curry myself. Because he is a solid pass rusher. Man if I'm taking a DE I think I'd take the guy with the highest upside i think that guy will be Andre Branch wheather he is there at 55 who know's but it would be Branch for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsrus Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Ben freacking Jones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardyfalcon Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Dominique Davis. Why? Because Matt Ryan will be eating from a plastic tube after playing behind our oline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Well, I don't think we take another rookie OL, Especially not as low as we will be picking this year. We have a boat load of young talent that I believe has been working out and studing hard since the injury's and during to off season. I think if we get an OL , we should get them in FAcy so we know exactly what we are getting . I personnally believe if we do get one it will be that way, FAcy. But I also think that Smith and TD thinks the young players we have will improve greatly from last year with another year under their belts. Those young OL we got the last two years are hard workers and have the makeup to be very good players. I'm a big believer in Hawley and Johnson, and a couple more . So I don't think we are as bad as you think, And I really do believe we may pick up another one after the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLsuperfan247 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) when people talk about replacing john abraham we all forget about we have a good DE developing in cliff matthews.. look at his tapehttp://youtu.be/K1ckjC82vKg Edited March 27, 2012 by ATLsuperfan247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Well, I don't think we take another rookie OL, Especially not as low as we will be picking this year. We have a boat load of young talent that I believe has been working out and studing hard since the injury's and during to off season. I think if we get an OL , we should get them in FAcy so we know exactly what we are getting . I personnally believe if we do get one it will be that way, FAcy. But I also think that Smith and TD thinks the young players we have will improve greatly from last year with another year under their belts. Those young OL we got the last two years are hard workers and have the makeup to be very good players. I'm a big believer in Hawley and Johnson, and a couple more . So I don't think we are as bad as you think, And I really do believe we may pick up another one after the draft. draftnut I hope your assessment is correct about Johnson and Hawley as I have felt very underwhelmed by our addition of talent this FA period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Cam Johnson DE VirginiaHe should be there at #55 and IMO he is a more polished pass rusher than many other DE's in the draft. He uses his hands very well.Having said that, we already have a few mid level talent guys with Sid,Biermann, Matthews so i don't know if we are going to spend a pick on another DE. I wouldn't mind us taking the best TE available at #55 either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLsuperfan247 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 i think we draft 2nd round a CB.. when was the last time we drafted a corner first thought? 2004 first round deangelo hall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddieman Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 We takeBobby Massie*, OT, Ole MissHeight: 6-6. Weight: 316.40 Time: 5.23.Bench: 22. Arm: 35. Massie has quietly been moving up draft boards. He had a decent Combine, but reportedly had an impressive pro day. Massie had some quality games this season, but did not have his best performance against Alabama. He did well in run blocking in 2011. Massie is too strong to be bull rushed, and he has the athletic ability to mirror well in pass blocking.Massie is still a little raw and could use more experience and development. There are stretches where he simply overwhelms defenders. Massie looks like he is a future starter at right tackle in the NFL.OrAlameda Ta'amu, DT/NT, WashingtonHeight: 6-3. Weight: 348.40 Time: 5.34. 10-Yd Split: 1.78.Bench: 35.Vertical: 26. Broad: 8-7.Arm: 32. Hand: 9 7/8. Ta'amu was solid but he didn't stand out at the Combine. Ta'amu followed his 2011 trend with an inconsistent showing at the Senior Bowl. Sometimes he was a real force before falling quiet for stretches. The demand for large nose tackles helps push his stock higher.At times as a senior, Ta'amu was a load at the line of scrimmage, but he was inconsistent. Ta'amu ate up double teams and had success plugging his gap in run defense. He also had some quality plays collapsing the pocket with a bull rush. Against Stanford, Ta'amu was neutralized by the Cardinal's strong offensive line. After that game, he was quiet for some time but finished the regular season on a high note with two sacks, 2.5 tackles for a loss and four tackles against Washington State.OrOrson Charles*, TE, GeorgiaHeight: 6-2. Weight: 251.Projected 40 Time: 4.70.Bench: 35.Arm: 32 1/2. Hand: 9 1/4. Charles weighed in heavier than expected at the Combine and led all the tight ends by a wide margin on the bench press. After that though, he disappointed by deciding not to run the 40. Charles made mistakes in route running during the drills and he dropped some passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 We takeBobby Massie*, OT, Ole MissHeight: 6-6. Weight: 316.40 Time: 5.23.Bench: 22. Arm: 35. Massie has quietly been moving up draft boards. He had a decent Combine, but reportedly had an impressive pro day. Massie had some quality games this season, but did not have his best performance against Alabama. He did well in run blocking in 2011. Massie is too strong to be bull rushed, and he has the athletic ability to mirror well in pass blocking.Massie is still a little raw and could use more experience and development. There are stretches where he simply overwhelms defenders. Massie looks like he is a future starter at right tackle in the NFL.OrAlameda Ta'amu, DT/NT, WashingtonHeight: 6-3. Weight: 348.40 Time: 5.34. 10-Yd Split: 1.78.Bench: 35.Vertical: 26. Broad: 8-7.Arm: 32. Hand: 9 7/8. Ta'amu was solid but he didn't stand out at the Combine. Ta'amu followed his 2011 trend with an inconsistent showing at the Senior Bowl. Sometimes he was a real force before falling quiet for stretches. The demand for large nose tackles helps push his stock higher.At times as a senior, Ta'amu was a load at the line of scrimmage, but he was inconsistent. Ta'amu ate up double teams and had success plugging his gap in run defense. He also had some quality plays collapsing the pocket with a bull rush. Against Stanford, Ta'amu was neutralized by the Cardinal's strong offensive line. After that game, he was quiet for some time but finished the regular season on a high note with two sacks, 2.5 tackles for a loss and four tackles against Washington State.OrOrson Charles*, TE, GeorgiaHeight: 6-2. Weight: 251.Projected 40 Time: 4.70.Bench: 35.Arm: 32 1/2. Hand: 9 1/4. Charles weighed in heavier than expected at the Combine and led all the tight ends by a wide margin on the bench press. After that though, he disappointed by deciding not to run the 40. Charles made mistakes in route running during the drills and he dropped some passes.Good stuff I like any of the 3 at number 55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caver50 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Although I don't want a TE, it would probably be wise to get one at 55. A year to train him up under Tony would be helpful, but i'am really in a wait and see mode until FA is over. I still think some trades may be possible, so i'll wait to decide until draft time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenBiscuit Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 We already have Cliff Mathews, Abraham, Biermann and Sidbury. Nothing but young and developing DEs falling into Nolans scheme (except Abraham, he doesn't really count as young) which is why I'd take a DT to compliment Corey Peters in the 4-3.I think OT could be a decent investment as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 @caddieman - why do you take an obvious RT at #55? I like Massie but he isn't a LT and that's what we need.I would take the best DT on the board. I like Reyes a lot. It's hard to push him back, he can penetrate the gap, and he can play the 5 tech. Wouldn't have to come off the field in hybrid situations. That's what we need up front. No DEs, CBs, or OGs. We have DEs that need to develop, CBs that need to play and plenty of OGs to compete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Dtackle-why? I assume they'll sign a LT during FA period- probably waiting for McNeil and Bell to realize they're not getting starter's money and sign a reasonable contract. Not a LT in 2nd round anyway. As Vels says, lots of young talent at DE, CB and OG.Bab's is 30, Jerry has never recovered from his knee injury, DT is where a 2nd rounder can make the biggest impact this year. Love to see a 340 pounder so that 3-4 can become more of an option, either as a hybrid D or the base D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markdzul Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I like Cam Johnson and or Vinny Curry, but the kid from South Florida at corner sound pretty good too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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