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Boehner and Cantor actually agreed to the tax increases, but insisted on Cuts. Obama could not take the deal, alot like Yasser Arafat wouldn't take the deal with the Israeli's. Obama's far left would Never allow it, and he then lied on TV about it. Then that jack arse, Biden went out to flint Michegan and cried more rapes, more crime will come about because of the GOPs lack of raising the debt limits. And acworth, Mitt and Newt NEVER served up anything close to Obama's take over on healthcare and the GOP was shut out of the debate as was the medical community as a whole. http://www.washingto...pm_politics_pop

Did you even read the article you posted?

In Boehner’s offer Friday night, the taxes came with strings attached. The Republicans wanted Obama to give up plans to raise the tax rate paid by the wealthiest Americans, now set at 35 percent. Instead, they wanted that rate to go down. They also wanted to preserve low rates for investment income — one of the biggest perks for the wealthy in the tax code — and establish a blanket exemption from U.S. taxes for corporate profits earned overseas.

Another key caveat: Much of the $800 billion would have to come from overhauling the tax code — not from higher tax rates. The Republicans believed lower rates and a simpler code would generate new revenue by discouraging cheating and spurring economic growth. If the White House would agree to count that money, the Republican leaders said, then they might have a deal.

That last condition was a problem. For years, Democrats have mocked the Republican argument that tax cuts pay for themselves by boosting the economy, an assertion for which evidence is scant. Many independent budget experts say the effect, if it exists, would be almost impossible to measure and useless in crafting a budget. Fiscal “snake oil,” some Democrats say.

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Some posters have suggested that Obama is a Socialist trying to take over or destroy the country. I suggest if so why haven't he rounded the "freedom fighting Republicans" up, thrown away the key and just enact what he wants to do problem solved?

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Did you even read the article you posted?

I read it and its over 10 pages printed out. The article gets to the truth, it just takes awhile.

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I read it and its over 10 pages printed out. The article gets to the truth, it just takes awhile.

Yes, and the truth it tells is one of Obama wanting to balance domestic spending cuts with tax increases on the wealthy. There was never a time when Obama proposed a tax increase only approach. The Republicans, in contrast, demanded a spending cuts only approach and were only willing to consider tax increases if it meant an unrealistic "tax cuts always increase revenue" approach. Yes, people SHOULD read that article to understand what happened in the debt ceiling negotiations.

And nothing in that article contradicts anything that I've said in this thread. Republicans are right now trying to break a deal they agreed to that ended a crisis they created.

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Acworth, did Obama and Harry Reid, Pelosi allow GOP debate and perspective during the Healthcare legislation? Did Obama lie on National TV when he recently cried that Boehner and the GOP walked away from the debt debate and raising tax's? Did Obama keep his word to do many of the things he championed and campaigned about in the lead up to his presidency? Has Obama not broken promises, thwarted reasonable, Pro American, job creation proposals, all to appease his fanatical, frothing far left base? This president has put in place nation killing regulations and you find it crystal clear that the opposition is in the wrong. Revisionists down the road will replay these events and Obama will go down as the worst president in 2 centuries.

It's funny, because he's kept a significant chunk of his campaign promises and the job market has improved steadily since he took office. Meanwhile the "pro-American, job creating proposals," which I find safe to assume coming from you means the typical GOP talking points (lower taxes for "job creators," less regulation, etc.) were major contributing factors to the current economic mess. It's like trying to put out a fire with gasoline and then blaming others for making the problem worse and suggesting to them that the only way to put the fire out is to throw more gasoline on it.

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Obama: *proposes some kind of big government far left deficit ballooning legislation* Here you go guys...

Republicans: No!!! We need to shrink government, reduce the deficit, etc...

Obama: Why won't Republicans work with me? They are the party of NO. Time for a press conference to whine about Republicans who don't like my big government far left deficit ballooning legislation.

Amen, comrade. Jesus will not stand for this.

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Obama: *proposes some kind of big government far left deficit ballooning legislation* Here you go guys...

Republicans: No!!! We need to shrink government, reduce the deficit, etc...

Obama: Why won't Republicans work with me? They are the party of NO. Time for a press conference to whine about Republicans who don't like my big government far left deficit ballooning legislation.

Actually, it's something like this:

Obama: *proposes welfare for individuals*

Republicans: No! We hate welfare!

Obama: You're going to do it anyway.

Republicans: Only if you accept this budget.

Obama: What is with all these giveaways to corporations? Isn't that welfare?

Republicans: It's the welfare the Founding Fathers would have wanted, as this country was founded as a Christian nation.

Random pundit: What about Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli which explicitly states otherwise?

This then begins a months long culture battle.

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Obama Advisors: "Listen, you know you gotta stir up the hornet's nest, it's getting closer and closer to election day. Get the voters pissed off at Republicans and we get our fat lobbyist checks from insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies."

Republicans: "We'll fight the perceived good fight our party wants meanwhile getting our cuts of all those fat lobbyist checks from insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies."

What a racket...

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Obama Advisors: "Listen, you know you gotta stir up the hornet's nest, it's getting closer and closer to election day. Get the voters pissed off at Republicans and we get our fat lobbyist checks from insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies."

Republicans: "We'll fight the perceived good fight our party wants meanwhile getting our cuts of all those fat lobbyist checks from insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies."

What a racket...

Ron Paul: *rambles as he tries to collect his thoughts* The market will fix this. Gold standard.

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Why thank you sir. It is a vintage. I like to play it in an echo chamber for increased skill effect.

^^^^ This one right here... is from the purest most choice cuts we have currently available on the market. Everyone should savor it and be glad that they got to sample it. Like kobe beef, I suspect.

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These republicans have one goal and one goal only, and they will post it on facebook and tell it to your face: to do whatever it takes to keep Obama out of the whitehouse in 2012.

daroadrambler, I'm not really sure why you liked my status. It was a negative comment towards these types of republicans.

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Obama: *proposes some kind of big government far left deficit ballooning legislation* Here you go guys...

Republicans: No!!! We need to shrink government, reduce the deficit, etc...

Obama: Why won't Republicans work with me? They are the party of NO. Time for a press conference to whine about Republicans who don't like my big government far left deficit ballooning legislation.

Yes, cutting the deficit by $4 trillion, half of which comes from spending cuts to domestic programs and half of which come from increased revenue, is "far left deficit ballooning legislation". You have a real problem with definitions.

Obama proposed revenue increases and spending cuts. Republicans demanded spending cuts only. Obama agreed to spending cuts only and proposed about half be in the form of defense cuts. Republicans agreed to that plan.

Now Republicans want to take the defense cuts off the table. But they're somehow the ones who are serious about deficit reduction.

Ridiculous.

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It is, as a way to increase revenue. Republicans are demanding revenue-neutral tax reform during a time when we need to lower the deficits.

Yeah....that's not what the article said. But I'm not really in the mood to argue the point nor do I even really care. That's just not what I read.

The bottom line for me.....all of the politicians that care about the country are quitting because the government is so corrupt. Very few of the politicans left care at all, so there won't be real cuts in spending, they will do what they have to do to get re-elected, which is keep spending.

And then one day in the not so distant future....we will all have to pay the piper.

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Yeah....that's not what the article said. But I'm not really in the mood to argue the point nor do I even really care. That's just not what I read.

The bottom line for me.....all of the politicians that care about the country are quitting because the government is so corrupt. Very few of the politicans left care at all, so there won't be real cuts in spending, they will do what they have to do to get re-elected, which is keep spending.

And then one day in the not so distant future....we will all have to pay the piper.

I would use the word dysfunctional as opposed to corrupt. There's corruption to be sure, but in this case it shows that government cannot make decisions on the nation's problems. Polarization is a major part of that dysfunction. You have minority parties empowered to block and/or gut legislation in the Senate, which prevents the majority party from passing it's agenda. In addition, now you have a minority party taking hostages at every chance to get laws they can't pass through the normal legislative process.

In the past, despite the disagreements, politicians would make agreements to settle log-jams and would adhere to those agreements. The partisan rhetoric and polarization make it hard to reach agreements and now the Republicans have shown that they are willing to break what few agreements they are willing to make.

We cannot have a functioning government with this stuff going on. You are concerned about increased spending and so am I. But why not give Democrats a chance to pass their legislation and let the voters decide whether it worked during next election? And if Republicans win in 2012, why not give them a chance to eliminate Medicare, cut corporate taxes, and increase taxes on the poor? Let the public decide on which party's policies they prefer, not the toothless, gutted, ineffective policies that they have to pass with the current situation.

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