capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 We have everyone back on offense that we need except for Weems and I have no doubts he'll be signed soon.We've added an experienced, very good guard. We have our young center (you guys will come around on that one).Now, instead of blowing major bucks on Mario let's look at the alternatives:Sidbury/Biermann: Turned in 6 sacks. Add in Abe's "prime time" snaps that they weren't playing and I assure you that number will hit double digits. Will it be double digits from one guy? Not necessarily (although I really think Sidbury is due to bust out from what I saw last year). From one position? Yes. Remember what Nolan said--he'd rather have 10 guys have 4 sacks each than 1 dominant guy. There's a reason for that.Our young secondary returns with more experience than last year and we'll probably add more youth to it in the draft.Sure, Lofton MAY walk. If he ends up lowering his asking price--he could return. If not, trust Nolan on that one. He's done this a time or two.Way I see it, we'll have the opportunity to add a DE, add a CB, draft a G/C, etc. It's the classic strategy of keep your own and build through the draft.Just use a little Patience.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardyfalcon Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I see your point but I dont see a dominant core group on defense to build around, for the most part we have average-above average players on defense except Spoon and Grimes. That means we have to be coached and play near perfect to be superbowl contenders for years to come.Defense wins championships, not an offense that looks good on paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creative Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not buying it. We weren't even close to good enough last year, and I don't think we've done enough to take that step. Don't get me wrong, I like the smaller signings, but we need a pass rusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Its a waist of good oxygen my friend.chicken littles abound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEFalcon Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I see Cappy's point and appreciate it. I know for a fact that alot of personnel evaluation went on during the off-season. It is really hard for fans to decipher what exactlywe need when we have not seen the offensve and defensive schemes of our new coordinators with our players. I trust that they and the FO have done deligent evaluation and research in determining what additions/subtractions we need to improve the team. All we see is high price players getting couted by other teams an d we assume we need to do teh same & they may ot be the fact. Signing big names doesn't allway equate in more wins. In some ways it is very risky to tie up a huge chunk of payroll on one player. Many teams have no improvement and some even set-back due to their free spending during FA. Although i would like to see us bring in a couple of key pieces I will remain patient and optimistic; this FO took us from dispair and near bottom of the league to preennial contenders the last 4 years. I think I can believe in them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yeah, when you have a dude who only got 129 pass rushing snaps and he still put up 3 sacks, 2 hits and 12 pressures that tells me you have a pass rusher that just needs a chance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LADBABY Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There are still people out there. Especially tackles, butyou have to get the right one. Picking up an injured guy toplay left tackle and paying him like royalty to ride the pine isnot a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Yea I see your point but we were saying the same thing about Kory Beariman a few years agoI'd spend a little money onMark AndersonorKamerion Wimbley - expected to be cutthen draft Bruce IrvinThen throw in Sid and Kory and you may not have not an elite pass rusher but some porductive one's and talented ones as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iQue Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Good post. Folks are always going to want the big splash after a bad ending to a season. We have talent on this team, its just time for it to manifest itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) Probably one of the biggest TD detractors on this board, but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for not jumping out immediately to snag a big named talent. Maybe the reason for this is the last tries (DROB/Edwards) havn't panned out to date, maybe there's a lesson learned for him. Although I too am high on Sid,i only hope he's not content with going the cheap route in fixing our lines (Manuwai/Tatupu), and relying on existing players to step it to fill the void, talent wise, otherwise it could be a long year. Edited March 14, 2012 by vabchbirdlover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampyMux12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Don't forget that the 'stache and company held the SB champs to 7 points at halftime... so to say that there is no talent on this defense is wrong. Yes some more pieces def. need to be added but we do have guys who can play. Defense in this league has basically boiled down to being able to keep the game close, it doesn't necessarily matter the numbers. Remember the Saints/9ers playoff game, the 49ers gave up 30 some points but they were able to keep the game close and they were being praised for their def effort. The Patriots are also a prime example, their d pretty much blew last year, but they kept games close enough to win by holding teams to FG's and the offense would pull them out. If not for the mistakes in the SB they would have one it with a "shaky" defense. Lets not kid ourselves, the NFL is all about having a great offense and a "good enough" defense. Build that oline, we have all our skill players back and we'll be good to go. As much as many will hate to hear that... it's true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I see your point but I dont see a dominant core group on defense to build around, for the most part we have average-above average players on defense except Spoon and Grimes. That means we have to be coached and play near perfect to be superbowl contenders for years to come.Defense wins championships, not an offense that looks good on paper.You can't spend the money the Falcons blow on the offense and still have enough to make significant additions to the defense. The math isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) The OP said We have everything on Offense (e3xcept Weems)Not quite true--- there is only 1 center on the roster, they need another center. Edited March 14, 2012 by delaigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 We have everyone back on offense that we need except for Weems and I have no doubts he'll be signed soon.We've added an experienced, very good guard. We have our young center (you guys will come around on that one).Now, instead of blowing major bucks on Mario let's look at the alternatives:Sidbury/Biermann: Turned in 6 sacks. Add in Abe's "prime time" snaps that they weren't playing and I assure you that number will hit double digits. Will it be double digits from one guy? Not necessarily (although I really think Sidbury is due to bust out from what I saw last year). From one position? Yes. Remember what Nolan said--he'd rather have 10 guys have 4 sacks each than 1 dominant guy. There's a reason for that.Our young secondary returns with more experience than last year and we'll probably add more youth to it in the draft.Sure, Lofton MAY walk. If he ends up lowering his asking price--he could return. If not, trust Nolan on that one. He's done this a time or two.Way I see it, we'll have the opportunity to add a DE, add a CB, draft a G/C, etc. It's the classic strategy of keep your own and build through the draft.Just use a little Patience....this sounds like Obama's "Hope & Change" theme during his presidential run.......When he got in office we got "Doom & Gloom"........just sayin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Don't forget that the 'stache and company held the SB champs to 7 points at halftime... so to say that there is no talent on this defense is wrong. Yes some more pieces def. need to be added but we do have guys who can play. Defense in this league has basically boiled down to being able to keep the game close, it doesn't necessarily matter the numbers. Remember the Saints/9ers playoff game, the 49ers gave up 30 some points but they were able to keep the game close and they were being praised for their def effort. The Patriots are also a prime example, their d pretty much blew last year, but they kept games close enough to win by holding teams to FG's and the offense would pull them out. If not for the mistakes in the SB they would have one it with a "shaky" defense. Lets not kid ourselves, the NFL is all about having a great offense and a "good enough" defense. Build that oline, we have all our skill players back and we'll be good to go. As much as many will hate to hear that... it's true... "Yes" the Patriots defense sucked, so did the Packers defense - and their offense bailed them out. However, those teams have Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.....we have Matt Ryan......just sayin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_own_nfc_south Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I've not seen any sacred cow yet..... May be Blank and co just said it to make Fans buy ST again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE-Falconlifer Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not buying it. We weren't even close to good enough last year, and I don't think we've done enough to take that step. Don't get me wrong, I like the smaller signings, but we need a pass rusher.exactly...doubt in reality anyone else is either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient raptor Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Four year (or less) fans are so obvious on this board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 The OP said We have everything on Offense (e3xcept Weems)Not quite true--- there is only 1 center on the roster, they need another center.The OP also said: "Way I see it, we'll have the opportunity to add a DE, add a CB, draft a G/C, etc." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 "ZOMG, we haven't signed anybody! We need a pass rusher! We're gonna suck!"If Falcons were to sign somebody:"Holy ****! They overpaid! Front office is dumb! We're gonna suck!"Y'all crack me up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 The OP also said: "Way I see it, we'll have the opportunity to add a DE, add a CB, draft a G/C, etc."Way I see it, you should have been inclusive at (except Weems & a C/G) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Way I see it, you should have been inclusive at (except Weems & a C/G)I wasn't because I believe Hawley to be more than capable of being the starter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I wasn't because I believe Hawley to be more than capable of being the starter...Well he was just passable in his 3 starts BUT I'm willing to give him a chance.. I just want someone else on the roster. This is not a pitch for any person just a 2nd center. (at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Sit back and let Soliai's, Langford's, and McNeil's prices drop and sign those three. I think those would be possible even with the cap situation currently. Tie McNeil's contract to surviving year 1 to kick in after this season to keep his cap hit low now. Langford shouldn't be too much and Soliai would be the most but not absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Well he was just passable in his 3 starts BUT I'm willing to give him a chance.. I just want someone else on the roster. This is not a pitch for any person just a 2nd center. (at least)Yeah, you'll see one added--whether it's Romberg or a draft pick, there will be someone with center experience you can bet on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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