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How many Matt Ryan threads have to be made???? I am looking at the front page and see that falconfan567 has bumped 5 threads on Ryan and one of those he made.

I say let it go. if people will not open there eyes by now that Ryan is good, then are not going to. I am not going to waiste my time arguing with a brick wall. there is always going to be haters. Metallica said they may have a million fans, but there is still 5-10 million haters. it is just knowing the truth. you can not win them all. and in all honesty this does not matter anymore. like I said arguing with a brick wall. and the exact same goes to people who say Matt Ryan sucks, because I have made my mind up that he is a really good QB and will become elite once he wins the off seasons.

but I doubt anyone on either side will listen to what I just said and will continue to argue with there mothers the day they were born or with a brick wall.

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How many Matt Ryan threads have to be made???? I am looking at the front page and see that falconfan567 has bumped 5 threads on Ryan and one of those he made.

I say let it go. if people will not open there eyes by now that Ryan is good, then are not going to. I am not going to waiste my time arguing with a brick wall. there is always going to be haters. Metallica said they may have a million fans, but there is still 5-10 million haters. it is just knowing the truth. you can not win them all. and in all honesty this does not matter anymore. like I said arguing with a brick wall. and the exact same goes to people who say Matt Ryan sucks, because I have made my mind up that he is a really good QB and will become elite once he wins the off seasons.

but I doubt anyone on either side will listen to what I just said and will continue to argue with there mothers the day they were born or with a brick wall.

Lol, Metallica said that? Rings true to me.

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How many Matt Ryan threads have to be made???? I am looking at the front page and see that falconfan567 has bumped 5 threads on Ryan and one of those he made.

I say let it go. if people will not open there eyes by now that Ryan is good, then are not going to. I am not going to waiste my time arguing with a brick wall. there is always going to be haters. Metallica said they may have a million fans, but there is still 5-10 million haters. it is just knowing the truth. you can not win them all. and in all honesty this does not matter anymore. like I said arguing with a brick wall. and the exact same goes to people who say Matt Ryan sucks, because I have made my mind up that he is a really good QB and will become elite once he wins the off seasons.

but I doubt anyone on either side will listen to what I just said and will continue to argue with there mothers the day they were born or with a brick wall.

How come the people who want to let Lofton go because his pass defense doesn't warrant his salary demands are being pragmatic, while those who have similar questions about Matt Ryan's performance are "haters"?

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How come the people who want to let Lofton go because his pass defense doesn't warrant his salary demands are being pragmatic, while those who have similar questions about Matt Ryan's performance are "haters"?

One doesn't = the other

His contract is up and he is demanding more money than our FO is willing to pay based on thier (mainly Nolan) evaluation

It safe to say everyone wants him back!

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I only have one question bout people that says he can throw the ball deep why does it matter to you if he throws a 65yd bomb or not every play isnt make to do that so why do you espect that? The people that want that is one that wants a bunch of highlights that wont matter if you dont win. I dont care if he cant throw the ball 35yds as long as he can move the chains and the team win. Its like people dont have sh$t else to talk about other than how far he can launch a ball come on think bout stuff before you post it...... I support the Falcons

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Matt Ryan is a capable QB but he has poor accuracy on that deep ball at times. The thing that ticks me off is when he gets called noodle arm, or his arm strength is questioned... His deep ball is something he can improve, and with Ryan's work ethic it will improve.

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One doesn't = the other

His contract is up and he is demanding more money than our FO is willing to pay based on thier (mainly Nolan) evaluation

It safe to say everyone wants him back!

Letting Lofton go because his value doesn't equal his cost.....not hate, just a football decision

Matt Ryan's value doesn't equal his cost, especially when you factor in the expense to surround him with play-makers. Not hate, just a football observation.

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I only have one question bout people that says he can throw the ball deep why does it matter to you if he throws a 65yd bomb or not every play isnt make to do that so why do you espect that? The people that want that is one that wants a bunch of highlights that wont matter if you dont win. I dont care if he cant throw the ball 35yds as long as he can move the chains and the team win. Its like people dont have sh$t else to talk about other than how far he can launch a ball come on think bout stuff before you post it...... I support the Falcons

Why do people equate wanting a change in personnel with not supporting the team?

Watch some games, other than those involving Atlanta. Winning QBs from the last 9 Super Bowls still play in the league. Scrutinize their performance, then do the same for Matt Hasselbeck and tell us who more closely resembles Matt Ryan and why.

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Matt Ryan can't throw the deep ball coming from a bunch of people that obviously have experience on the matter.... No Then obviously they knew this was a major concern for Ryan at Boston College... No So obviously they will be trying out for QB at a NFL team to "teach" Ryan how it should be done....No So obviously they have been Falcons fans and board members for a while.... No

SO what do it equal? a bunch of guys that WISH they COULD be Matt Ryan!

Matt Ryan scouting report ..NFL ANALYST

Analysis

Strengths

Positives: Has a tall frame with good muscle tone and, while a bit lean, he has the frame to carry at least another 10 pounds of bulk with no loss in quickness...More of a short-to-intermediate passer, but he does a good job of going through progressions and is limber enough to make those throws while on the move...Very accurate passer when flushed out of the pocket, but has the strength to step up and absorb punishment...Shows the balance and body control to throw the ball across his body from the outside hashes, demonstrating good lateral slide (4.29 20-yard shuttle) for his position...Has a quick drive back from center to his throwing point, setting his feet properly before delivering the throw...Good team leader who puts in the extra hours in the film room and training room...Good lifter who plays with a fiery attitude and won't back away from a confrontation...Has very good game-management skills, making quick decisions while generally showing proper judgment...Cool under pressure and knows how to step up and avoid the bull rush...Seems to have ice water running through his veins and is never rattled, despite facing a fierce pass rush...Has complete command of the huddle and the training staff calls him one of the toughest players to ever wear a BC uniform, citing his dedication and long hours rehabilitating from offseason foot surgery...Drives away from center with a fluid stride and has the body control to quickly get into position to make the throw, whether in the pocket or on the move (can pass from the sprint or from dropback action)...Has an over-the-shoulder delivery and release, carrying the ball chest-high, and has a quick wrist flick and ability to adjust his release depending on the throwing situation, but he makes most of his mistakes on the deep ball. In that situation, he threw nine of his 10 interceptions in 2006 and 10 of 14 in '07...It is rare to see him force the ball, showing patience going through progressions and also has the intelligence to get innovative...Has the strength to stand tall in the pocket and will not be forced into rushing his throws (will take a sack rather than fire into traffic)...Not easy to knock down once he gets on the move and is a slippery runner who lacks valid foot speed, but has good side-step agility...Inspires the confidence of the entire team on the field and he is a mature leader who won't point fingers, rather accepting blame for a broken play...Excels throwing in the short area, as he puts good zip and touch on his throws, especially on underneath and crossing routes...Can vary his speed and take something off when working in this area...Very good game manager who has the pinpoint accuracy to put the ball into tight areas and keeps the receivers in their routes, doing a nice job of hitting them out of the breaks...Can vary the speed on his short throws, but can drill it to his targets while on the move without having his man have to adjust...Has a nice feel for pocket pressure, demonstrating the vision to locate the backside action and does a good job of stepping up and out to avoid, but will not hesitate to tuck the ball and run with it, if he locates a good crease...Has the ideal height you look for in a quarterback to scan the field over the defensive linemen and is quick to check down and locate his secondary receivers, keeping defenses honest when rolling out, as he does not need to set his feet to fire the ball on the move...In 2007, he showed improved footwork in his setup, driving back from center much smoother than in the past...Surveys the field and goes through progressions well, but needs to look off his primary target more often...Worked hard to improve throwing the deep pass with better placement...Not really an escape artist, but he shows good awareness to pressure and has enough mobility to elude heat in the pocket...Knows how to vary the speed of his tosses when working underneath

. Negatives: Lacks the arm strength to challenge the deep secondary, as his long throws tend to flutter or hang up long enough for defenders to attack the ball in flight (see 2006 Brigham Young and Wake Forest contests and 2007 Massachusetts and Virginia Tech games)...Needs to do a better job of planting his feet to get more zip behind his long throws...Has inconsistent and adequate velocity when firing the ball deep...Weakest area of his game is exposed when he attempts to fire the deep ball, as the pass tends to lack accuracy...Runs too hot and cold when trying to air the ball out, as his long throws lack trajectory...Needs to improve timing on his deep throws, as he is very inconsistent hitting those targets coming out of cuts...Holds for PATs and field goals, but needs to be quicker fielding and placing the ball...Strong runner with the ball, but runs a bit erect, resulting in fumble issues, as he does not always protect the ball when breaking past the line of scrimmage...Does not have the foot quickness to keep defenses honest as a runner and while he shows good vision as a passer, he will run into a crowd when carrying the pigskin (needs to be more alert to cutback lanes)...When he generates a high push in his delivery or throws off his back foot, his passes lose some zip, resulting in a high amount of tosses getting deflected (see 2007 North Carolina State, Massachusetts, Virginia Tech and Florida State games)...When he holds on to the ball too long waiting for his receivers to break, he will leave his passes behind too often (see 2007 Wake Forest, Virginia Tech SEC Game, Florida State and Maryland contests)...Needs to make quicker decisions when he is flushed out of the pocket and must stop trying to force his throws into tight areas...Needs to protect the ball better; had fumble issues in 2007, especially after getting sacked (see 2007 Georgia Tech, Miami and Michigan State games). Compares To: MATT SCHAUB-Houston...Before 2007, Ryan looked a lot like the Jets' Chad Pennington, only much more effective utilizing a short-to-intermediate area passing attack. He has good mobility to throw when flushed out of the pocket and is an efficient game manager. He shows good strength stepping up in the pocket and the lateral agility to side-step the bull rush, but is not a threat to get big real estate with his feet. He lacks accuracy and arm strength when unleashing the long ball, as most of his interceptions were the result of him trying to attack the deep secondary. He is a cool field general with a great work ethic and shows some similarity to Rich Gannon (ex-Raiders, Chiefs) in his ability to be innovative on the field. He is not a good fit for a vertical passing attack, but for a team comfortable moving the chains with a mistake-free engineer at the helm, they could find a nice fit in Ryan during the draft's first day.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/matt-ryan?id=310

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Why do people equate wanting a change in personnel with not supporting the team?

Watch some games, other than those involving Atlanta. Winning QBs from the last 9 Super Bowls still play in the league. Scrutinize their performance, then do the same for Matt Hasselbeck and tell us who more closely resembles Matt Ryan and why.

But the thing is everyone makes it seem like the have to be able to launch the ball across the world for them to be happy and people tend to find little stuff to complain bout but when the team was winning people didnt have anything to say they just sat back and cheered for the team and I am not say wanting a change isnt supporting the team but its a big difference between wanting a change for a legit reason like we went 3-13 the last 4 seasons or something if he threw like 30 interceptions every season and like 12 touch downs but the guy is getting better you cant say he isnt.....but for the record i never said anyone that dont support Matt they dont support the team but just because the guy isnt launching it all the time doesnt mean he isnt a good QB maybe they dont call plays like that all the time you have to account for that you cant get better at something if you dont do it

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Letting Lofton go because his value doesn't equal his cost.....not hate, just a football decision

Matt Ryan's value doesn't equal his cost, especially when you factor in the expense to surround him with play-makers. Not hate, just a football observation.

I think we have too much money spent on play makers for 1 ball and not enough protection for any qb to be super bowl bound.

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