VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Does it mean that Turner is on the trading block? I cant imagine they release him out right. I personally think the best we can get for Turner is a 3rd round pick, it will probably be 4th though. Im not saying I want Turner gone at all, just trying to read the cards like everyone else. Snelling/Quizz/Smith can get the job done...that I am sure of. We could also add another back through FA or the draft. Dont be surprised if Turner is on the trading block. An out right release...I just cant see. Then again it saves 5mil....Ok the question is; would we rather have Turner and his 5mil cap hit this year, or Snelling/Quizz/Smith and a possible addition and free up that 5mil?We know Turner has slown but is still productive and a top 5 RB, we also know that his role will be greatly reduced this year, and it should.For me, I say put Turner on the trading block and just see what we can get for him. If we can get a 3rd, I say trade him and go with the RB by committee act. Also recoup that 5mil that Turner would have counted against the cap and use it elsewhere.If we cant get a 3rd, then keep him and just use all the backs accordingly. Either way, this is his last year with us, that much is obvious.Just my thoughts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Oh god.... Really?Smith said at the end of season that Turner would be back. Signing snelling means we got our depth back at RB and FB. Edited March 8, 2012 by danight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) What did it mean last year? That Snelling will be in a Falcons uniform. That is it.Why does every move made have to have some underlying motive behind it?I do support the cutting/trading of Turner though. Save 5 mil on the cap, fix the line.If the OL is great any RB can run behind it. It might hurt us in the short term, but this is the biggest FA pool ever. We need impact players on the lines and we need them now. Edited March 8, 2012 by JulioisCoolio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What it means? It simply means that Snelling is back and he wanted to play for the Falcons. Nothing more, nothing less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What's with folks wanting to take the Madden video game approach and turn loose of most of our players and sign every FA in the book? Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 What did it mean last year? That Snelling will be in a Falcons uniform. That is it.Why does every move made have to have some underlying motive behind it?I do support the cutting/trading of Turner though. Save 5 mil on the cap, fix the line.If the OL is great any RB can run behind it. It might hurt us in the short term, but this is the biggest FA pool ever. We need impact players on the lines and we need them now. Because they often times do, not saying this is the case but its not far fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creative Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Turner is a top 5 RB?hahahahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 What it means? It simply means that Snelling is back and he wanted to play for the Falcons. Nothing more, nothing less.Maybe not, the market on RBs is not strong, unless you are AO or Foster type back, you are not gettn a big pay day. Snelling is more valuable here than anywhere, no one was going to pay him anything significant. We are over loaded at RB, I was looking forward to seeing a lot of Quizz. With Snelling back, even with a new OC, that limits Quizz chances. Im thinking maybe Snelling can be converted to full time FB, cause Ovie is good as gone...an injured 3mil/yr FB...please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think it has more to do with the future and possibly FB... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 that we have 4 running backs on the roster? 5 counting Ovie.That is what it means right now.Nothing more nothing less. He could be cut in TC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConnFalcon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Agree with everyone else. This signing is for depth to ease the load for Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Turner is a top 5 RB?hahahahahahah 1. Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC 1606 2. Ray Rice, BAL 1364 3. Michael Turner, ATL 1340 4. LeSean McCoy, PHI 1309 5. Arian Foster, HOU 1224 Any questions? Mr HAHAHAHA...thought not, come with facts...not your obviously WRONG opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 1. Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC 1606 2. Ray Rice, BAL 1364 3. Michael Turner, ATL 1340 4. LeSean McCoy, PHI 1309 5. Arian Foster, HOU 1224 Any questions? Mr HAHAHAHA...thought not, come with facts...not your obviously WRONG opinion!Now add in all of those RB's receiving yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creative Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 1. Maurice Jones-Drew, JAC 1606 2. Ray Rice, BAL 1364 3. Michael Turner, ATL 1340 4. LeSean McCoy, PHI 1309 5. Arian Foster, HOU 1224 Any questions? Mr HAHAHAHA...thought not, come with facts...not your obviously WRONG opinion!Nice logic. According to you..Hawaii and Houston have the best QB's in college football every year.Thomas DeCoud plays the ball much better than Brent Grimes.Roman Harper is a tremendous pass rusher.etc.Stop looking at misleading stats and actually judge the player on what they're worth. Turner isn't even near top 10, top 5 is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Turner is a top 5 RB?hahahahahahahLaugh all you want, but I want you for a second to take off the Falcon colored glasses, and imagine Turner wearing a Packers uniform, with that offense, or a Patriots uniform, with that offense. He still has value, he can still run, but we all here are ready to ship him off because we want to get away from the plodding run on first, run on second, then pass offense that Mulkarkey was in love with. I say we could get a 4th out of him if he gets traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Now add in all of those RB's receiving yards.Contrary to AFMB belief, RB's are still measured by rushing yards. Its a strong plus if the RB is added to the offensive scheme. Add the yards that were gained by the screen and ask how many we ran last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Now add in all of those RB's receiving yards. Why? receiving yards for a RB are nice yes, but that is bonus, not main criteria for a good RB. If thats the case Vick rushed for 1,000 yards while only passing for 2400 in 06..does that somehow mean he was as good or better than the other QBs in that range? I think not. Sure Forte, Rice, Drew have a much greater ability to receive, does that mean they are better RBs? For me the answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Laugh all you want, but I want you for a second to take off the Falcon colored glasses, and imagine Turner wearing a Packers uniform, with that offense, or a Patriots uniform, with that offense. He still has value, he can still run, but we all here are ready to ship him off because we want to get away from the plodding run on first, run on second, then pass offense that Mulkarkey was in love with. I say we could get a 4th out of him if he gets traded.I want to get rid of him because it will save us 5 mil on the cap, he has zero value in the receiving game and because he doesn't show up against good defenses. We need more speed @ the RB position. We are supposed to be seeing more screens ect with the new OC. Those aren't going to be ran with Turner. 5 mil is too much for a RB that is supposedly going to be on a 'snap count' this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheIdowu Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 You have receivers to receive the ball . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creative Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 HB's I'd take over Turner:Daniel ThomasMJDFred JacksonRay RiceMendenhallFosterTateCJMcFaddenRyan MatthewsDeMarco MurrayBradshawMcCoyFortePetersonDeAngelo WIlliamsPierre ThomasSteven JacksonFrank GoreMarshawn Lynch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulioisCoolio Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Why? receiving yards for a RB are nice yes, but that is bonus, not main criteria for a good RB. If thats the case Vick rushed for 1,000 yards while only passing for 2400 in 06..does that somehow mean he was as good or better than the other QBs in that range? I think not. Sure Forte, Rice, Drew have a much greater ability to receive, does that mean they are better RBs? For me the answer is no.I don't even know what to say to this logic. Notice how all of the actual best RB's in the league all have the ability to catch the ball?MJD is an excellent receiverRay Rice is an excellent receiverLesean Mccoy is an excellent receiverArian Foster is an excellent receiverMatt Forte is an excellent receiverChris Johnson is an excellent receiver.Turner is basically the only top 10 RB with ZERO value in the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creative Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I don't even know what to say to this logic. Notice how all of the actual best RB's in the league all have the ability to catch the ball?MJD is an excellent receiverRay Rice is an excellent receiverLesean Mccoy is an excellent receiverArian Foster is an excellent receiverMatt Forte is an excellent receiverChris Johnson is an excellent receiver.Turner is basically the only top 10 RB with ZERO value in the passing game.The stupidity of our fans is amazing.It's all black and white to them. HB = rush yards, DE = sack, and knowing them.. DB = int.I'm not going to try to explain anymore, it's pointless. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye of the Falcon Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think it has more to do with the future and possibly FB...Agree. If Turner is retained our RB situation will be as last year. If he goes( if we could get a 3rd rd. pick we should jump all over that) then we draft a replacement this year from a deep RB class and let him work into the rotation with Snellen and Rogers doing the majority of the work. Either way, RB should not be a problem in 2012. Don't know how the 2013 RB class looks but it's deep this year, and if Turner is back we will likely get nothing, or near nothing, for him next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 HB's I'd take over Turner:Daniel Thomas - shows your football i.q., please stop making a fool of yourself.MJD - legitFred Jackson - u kidding?Ray Rice - legitMendenhall - are you serious?Foster - legitTate - no commetCJ - if he returns to formMcFadden - no, just faster...not betterRyan Matthews this is a jokeDeMarco Murray - maybe, can we see him do it again....hmmm lets see Turner has what 4 good years consecutive?Bradshaw - no, faster, quisker, not betterMcCoy - maybeForte - legitPeterson - nuff saidDeAngelo WIlliams - maybePierre Thomas - u make me laughSteven Jackson - maybeFrank Gore - legitMarshawn Lynch - stop it man, you still caught up on that playoff beast mode run, what else has he done before or after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I don't even know what to say to this logic. Notice how all of the actual best RB's in the league all have the ability to catch the ball?MJD is an excellent receiverRay Rice is an excellent receiverLesean Mccoy is an excellent receiverArian Foster is an excellent receiverMatt Forte is an excellent receiverChris Johnson is an excellent receiver.Turner is basically the only top 10 RB with ZERO value in the passing game.Is MJD a better blocker? MaybeIs Ray Rice a better blocker? NopeIs McCoy a better blocker? Not even close.Is Arian Foster a better blocker? No sirIs Forte a better blocker? CloseIs Chris Johnson a better blocker? Hail no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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