birdman2k4 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 If we take care of our biggest areas in FA what would you think of us taking him in the 3rd round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I rather curry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Syrup Golden 32 Oz Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Never heard of hin before today (combine), so I don't know much...but he certainly looks the part! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFIII Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I would prefer Curry too, He will not be there though. I am not sure Irvin will either, but he has a better chance of being there imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I would prefer Curry too, He will not be there though. I am not sure Irvin will either, but he has a better chance of being there imo.heshould be there at 55. Talkin about curry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) You obviously know nothing about Irvin, he would need at least 2-3 years to develop before even seeing the field Edited February 27, 2012 by Zodiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 You obviously know nothing about Irvin, he would need at least 2-3 years to develop before even seeing the fieldHe can impact as a pass rush specialist early on. He possesses killer speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He can impact as a pass rush specialist early on. He possesses killer speed.ask maybin and gohlston if speed gets u production... It's not about just speed... In fact speed isnt even important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He can impact as a pass rush specialist early on. He possesses killer speed.Congratulations, and once the Olineman get his hands on him he becomes a complete non factor, he is not going to be able to just run straight by LTs at the next level, in fact he'll prolly get chipped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isproab Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I like him, but he is light, and really shoudl be a 3-4 rush LB. I know we may play some of that, but is it going to be enought to make taking him worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 ask maybin and gohlston if speed gets u production... It's not about just speed... In fact speed isnt even importantthey were both lazy and showed no fire. big difference when compared to bruce irvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFIII Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Irvin wouldn't play de for us. He would be a olb. He was a hybrid even at West Virginia. He may play some downs with his hand on the ground, but, he projects more like a bigger edge olb. 3-4 is a better fit for someone like him, but, we have a 3-4 guy as a coach now. He will run both from what i understand so far. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Everybody that has seen the guy play knew he would run atleast a 4.5 40.... He is a speed rusher... Let the guy rush the only rush the passer his rookie year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Congratulations, and once the Olineman get his hands on him he becomes a complete non factor, he is not going to be able to just run straight by LTs at the next level, in fact he'll prolly get chippedif he's getting chipped, that means he's garnering extra attention which is great for the rest of the team. i agree that he doesn't provide much once he's engaged but same **** happened with quinn last year who went 14th overall. even aldon smith but he turned it around very quickly because he played hard and with passion every down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Irvin wouldn't play de for us. He would be a olb. He was a hybrid even at West Virginia. He may play some downs with his hand on the ground, but, he projects more like a bigger edge olb. 3-4 is a better fit for someone like him, but, we have a 3-4 guy as a coach now. He will run both from what i understand so far. We shall see.Also this, and the guy is terrible in pass coverage, we need guys who can come in and contribute from day one and he is not, he's a project player who will take at least 2 years to get adequate PT on defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uga706 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'd take Whitney Mercilus over Curry and Irvin is like 240 lbs. and is a complete project who will be drafted anywhere from late 3rd. to the 5th rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) if he's getting chipped, that means he's garnering extra attention which is great for the rest of the team. i agree that he doesn't provide much once he's engaged but same **** happened with quinn last year who went 14th overall. even aldon smith but he turned it around very quickly because he played hard and with passion every down.How so a TE can chip him and be back on route in about a second, he's A project player and has no moves what so ever, plus he's terrible against the run ad pass, he is not worth a 3rd round pick, we need someone who is an immediate contributor or is ready in a year ir if someone goes downEdir- screw ipads and their **** autocorrects Edited February 27, 2012 by Zodiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackredfellow Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) As an eers fan, Ive watched him for the last two years (he was a juco transfer). I really don't see him being a good 4-3 DE. He could possibly be a good 3-4 LB, if he works on his coverage skills. He definitely has speed to burn, but he is VERY raw.I guess what I'm sayin is, if he is there any time after round 2, might be worth a shot. 2nd round? Lets not. Edited February 27, 2012 by blackredfellow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 they were both lazy and showed no fire. big difference when compared to bruce irvin.they werent lazy in college..my point is that speed isnt everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabs0 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'd rather have Shea McClellin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 A lot of you haven't watched Irvin if you're complaining about his rushing the passer ability. He bullied a ton of OTs the last two years. No he isn't a pure 4-3 DE, but with the hybrid Nolan is going to employ, Irvin could be a very dangerous situational player over time. I agree with blackredfellow though, that he is not a 2nd rounder. But if you think he is small, Clay Matthews came out at 6'3 240.What's more important than his 4.48 40 time is his 10 yard split: 1.63s. Sidbury, who ran a 4.53, had a 10 yard split of 1.53. That's elite territory. In perspective, the fastest 10 yard split of the entire combine last year was 1.54 (Brooks Reed). Another reason why I think Sidbury will be breaking out this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rai Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 they werent lazy in college..my point is that speed isnt everything.I'm not sure about Gholston but Maybin definitely was. I saw the guy, you can't seriously say he didn't play hard. Not at all. http://thehuddlereport.com/Free/archive/2009DRAFT/PlayerProfiles/Aaron.Maybin.htmI'd rather have Shea McClellin.I really like Shea. He's a good player but his stock has soared recently. How so a TE can chip him and be back on route in about a second, he's A project player and has no moves what so ever, plus he's terrible against the run ad pass, he is not worth a 3rd round pick, we need someone who is an immediate contributor or is ready in a year ir if someone goes downProject player, only beats opposition with speed and quickness, doesn't use hands to disengage, more of a downhill player than someone that can drop back in coverage... Sounds like Von Miller all over again. Bruce Irvin isn't as good as Von Miller coming out but he also has rare talent. He's not an every down player by any means but some team and clever DC will get him to cause havoc while he learns his position. He has the physical tools to do it all. He's very fast, quick and strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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