cooperbh Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 In the 92 year history of the NFL, there have been 49 head coaches who have posted four (or more) straight winning seasons. Not counting Mike Smith, they are:Bill Belichick, NFL Raymond Berry, AFC Marv Levy, AFC Lou Saban, AFL Don Shula, NFL Mike Tomlin, NFL Bill Cowher, NFL Chuck Noll, NFL John Harbaugh, AFCD Blanton Collier, NFL Paul Brown, NFL Jack Pardee, AFCWC Tom Coughlin, NFL Tony Dungy, NFL Tom Flores, NFL John Madden, NFL Mike Shannahan, NFL Dan Reeves, AFC Don Coryell, AFCD Sid Gillman, AFL Marty Schottenheimer, AFCD Hank Stram, NFL Jim Lee Howell, NFL Steve Owen, NFL Tom Landry, NFLAndy Reid, NFC**** Vermeil, NFLGreasy Neale, NFL Joe Gibbs, NFL George Allen, NFC Ray Flaherty, NFL Mike Sherman, NFCWC Mike Holmgren, NFL Vince Lombardi, NFL Curly Lambeau, NFL Joe Schmidt, -- Buddy Parker, NFL Potsy Clark, NFL Mike Ditka, NFL George Halas, NFL Dennis Green, NFCD Jerry Burns, NFCD Bud Grant, NFC George Seifert, NFL Bill Walsh, NFL Buck Shaw, NFCChuck Knox, NFCDJohn Robinson, NFCD* NFL (in bold) = won league championship* NFC/AFC = won conference championship* NFCD/AFCD = won divisional round game* NFCWC/AFCWC = won wild card round game* -- = no playoff victoriesOf the 48 coaches listed above...31 (65%) have won a league championship.38 (79%) have made it to a league championship game.46 (96%) have made it to a conference championship game.47 (98%) have won a playoff game.Anybody wanna lay their money on Mike Smith finishing his career without winning a playoff game? Before you answer, you should consider one more thing.With just 7 more wins, Smith will become the Falcons' all time winningest head coach. There have been only 19 head coaches in NFL history with four straight winning seasons who also led a franchise in all time wins. Of those 19, 18 (95%) coached in a league championship game. Only four - Marv Levy, Andy Reid, Bud Grant and John Robinson - failed to win a championship.No way am I betting against Smitty. History says he will not only get his playoff wins, he is also highly likely to at least make it to the big dance, if not win it all. I only hope he is still a Falcon when the inevitable occurs, and not leading some other team due to an impatient owner giving in to a fickle and ignorant vocal minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Sounds like homer logic to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Sounds like homer logic to me.Baaa. Baaa.* Sip *Baaaaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citsalp Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Sounds like homer logic to me.Sounds like math to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift&Change Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 solid research coop . Im a fan of Smitty .How many of those coaches have started their career 0-3 in playoffs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYD Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Sounds like homer logic to me.Yep cause it is against the rule here to have a positive outlook on a team with 4 straight winning seasons.Don't you guys know it is the IN thing to hate on your home team 24/7 no matter what they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yep cause it is against the rule here to have a positive outlook on a team with 4 straight winning seasons.Don't you guys know it is the IN thing to hate on your home team 24/7 no matter what they do?Shame isn't it? What kills me the most is how folks can rag a team that is in the early stages of completely turning this around? It's hard to erase 40 years of being pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_D Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Shame isn't it? What kills me the most is how folks can rag a team that is in the early stages of completely turning this around? It's hard to erase 40 years of being pathetic.Great team composition isn't brain surgery folks. Just ask Belichik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Great team composition isn't brain surgery folks. Just ask Belichik.If true then why ask Belichik why not ask Mora or Petrino Edited February 27, 2012 by delaigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Shame isn't it? What kills me the most is how folks can rag a team that is in the early stages of completely turning this around? It's hard to erase 40 years of being pathetic.It's also hard to erase one's final season memory being a 24-2 loss......or 48-21 the previous year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's also hard to erase one's final season memory being a 24-2 loss......or 48-21 the previous year.What's that old saying "the good that men do is soon forgotten but the evil they do lives long" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconinPA Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's also hard to erase one's final season memory being a 24-2 loss......or 48-21 the previous year.I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaderMan Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Nice stats, means nothing unless we start advancing i the playoffs. A playoff win in 2012 is a must! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SYD Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I'm much happier with this regime then the one and done 98 Falcons, they had playoff wins but we sucked for 4 years after that. A consistent winner to me is better than a slight push once of twice a decade.You can't get to the playoffs without winning in regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Is Arthur Blank happy knowing these stats? How does he feel about us losing every 1st round playoffs that we're in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) Is Arthur Blank happy knowing these stats? How does he feel about us losing every 1st round playoffs that we're in?What the owner wants from his business and what the customers want from that business are two entirely different things.Ask Mr. Blank if he wants a profittable business year after year after year or just 1 year of great profits and many many years of losses and he how he answers. Edited February 27, 2012 by delaigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) sorry Edited February 27, 2012 by delaigle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 What the owner wants from his business and what the customers want from that business are two entirely different things.Ask Mr. Blank if he wants a profittable business year after year after year or just 1 year of great profits and many many years of losses and he how he answers.Not sure how big of a deal profits are on an NFL franchise. With the 3/4 of a $billion Arthur has in this franchise, he could make much more cash profit investing. It's all about winning and pride at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDFIII Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 We are basing our coaches production against other teams that were not in our situation. There is only one coach there that we should draw comparisons with: Dan Reeves. He was here and was successful 2 or 3 years of his time. I believe he was the greatest coach we have had in the past. Smitty has surpassed him in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 solid research coop . Im a fan of Smitty .How many of those coaches have started their career 0-3 in playoffs ?Don Coryell and Denny Green.Shula comes close with 0 wins in 2 postseasons during his first 5 years as a head coach.Noll had 1 win in 2 postseasons during his first 5 years.Belichick was 1 for 1 in his first 6 years. And then fired.Landry was 1 for 4 in his first 10 years. He didn't lead a team to the postseason until year 6.A single playoff win means squat to me in the long run. Smitty has to put up some back-to-back losing seasons before I start to lose faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muskokas finest © Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 A single playoff win means squat to me in the long run. Smitty has to put up some back-to-back losing seasons before I start to lose faith.Smith won't survive a losing season....maybe not any regression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Don Coryell and Denny Green.Shula comes close with 0 wins in 2 postseasons during his first 5 years as a head coach.Noll had 1 win in 2 postseasons during his first 5 years.Belichick was 1 for 1 in his first 6 years. And then fired.Landry was 1 for 4 in his first 10 years. He didn't lead a team to the postseason until year 6.A single playoff win means squat to me in the long run. Smitty has to put up some back-to-back losing seasons before I start to lose faith.Wow...Great research. And I agree with your sentiment on Smith. The team is in position to win in the playoffs 3 out of the 4 years we have been there. The only issue is that they haven't closed the deal. Those who have lost faith in Smitty already have no patience, and exemplify the term "Microwave Generation". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Smith won't survive a losing season....maybe not any regression.Depends on the reason. If the team is fully healthy and yet unfocused and uncompetitive (highly unlikely,) then he's in big trouble. If we are ravaged by injuries and still fighting to the final whistle in close games, then Blank would be a fool to let Smith go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift&Change Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I believe Smith , TD , and Ryan all get a pass next season no matter what happens . Then 2013 season will be deep playoff run or start retooling process . I think thats extremely fair by end of 6th season a deep playoff run . Then we fire Smitty and TD and bring in a new GM to decide what to do with Ryan 6 years no playoff success is it fair to start rebuild or do we go on beaten path to what year like 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Yep cause it is against the rule here to have a positive outlook on a team with 4 straight winning seasons.Don't you guys know it is the IN thing to hate on your home team 24/7 no matter what they do?I'm about 99.9% sure that was sarcasm. Have you guys never run across Rad before on these boards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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