youngbloodz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Their isn't anything hard about route running if your a decent athlete. Just isn't. Defensive recognition isn't all that hard. If you have two safeties high more than likely cover 2. Single high safety cover 3. No safeties usually means a blitz is coming and defense playing man. Your safeties tell what defesne your in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Why on gods green earth would we use a high draft pick on another wide receiver? Edited February 26, 2012 by Mr.Smiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 No one is gonna give up a 1st round pick for him. That rarely ever happens.The difference between then and now is that before this offseason the maximum tender was a 1st and 3rd rounder, which teams would be reluctant to give up. Now the max is simply a 1st rounder, done just to create more movement for restricted free agents, which I'm sure more teams would be willing to toy with the idea of giving up to get a player like Wallace. If the Steelers are unable to keep Wallace and tender him I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns or Bengals make a push to get him. They both have two 1st rounders and need WR help. The Browns could get a top quality weapon for McCoy (I seriously doubt they get RGIII, he just doesn't fit the mold of a pure WCO QB that Holmgren likes) and if the Bengals get him to replace Jerome Simpson (probably going to jail) they suddenly have an extremely potent WR duo for Dalton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atljbo Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think he would be a good fit with the Pats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Their isn't anything hard about route running if your a decent athlete. Just isn't. Defensive recognition isn't all that hard. If you have two safeties high more than likely cover 2. Single high safety cover 3. No safeties usually means a blitz is coming and defense playing man. Your safeties tell what defesne your inIf only it were that easy. That's just for basic coverages. If both of those things were so easy, they wouldn't constantly be issues for a lot of WRs and even QBs every year. Why do rookie QBs struggle? Because they have a hard time adjusting to the more complex defenses of the NFL. 2 high safeties could be cover 2, cover 4, cover 6, cover 3, 2 man, inverted cover 2. That's just basic stuff. So no, it's not that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconState Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Stephen Hill and Micheal Floyd both looked really good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It's all basic. And it is that easy if you study. In the NFL they do a great job at disguising their coverages. I've talked to countless NFL players. So when these people tell me it isn't hard I will believe them over anyone else when it comes to the game of football. Football isn't a hard sport at all. Pre snap recognition isn't close to being hard. It's just everything is happening so fast once the ball is snap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Basically if you have two high safeties they are in zone almost 99.99% of the time. So like I said it is all basic. The playbook is complex just because you might have 100 different plays to remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrobinson3803 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 I don't get how GT can even recruit a reciever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 It's all basic. And it is that easy if you study. In the NFL they do a great job at disguising their coverages. I've talked to countless NFL players. So when these people tell me it isn't hard I will believe them over anyone else when it comes to the game of football. Football isn't a hard sport at all. Pre snap recognition isn't close to being hard. It's just everything is happening so fast once the ball is snap.Ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrinson Posted February 26, 2012 Author Share Posted February 26, 2012 Why on gods green earth would we use a high draft pick on another wide receiver?I like to draft best player available over need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 (edited) Basically if you have two high safeties they are in zone almost 99.99% of the time. So like I said it is all basic. The playbook is complex just because you might have 100 different plays to rememberits not that simple.. some routes predicate how a db is playing him.. its not just about man or zone. Its far more then just that, running a good route also means getting enough space to give your qb room to get you the ball and catch it with a db on you... A lot of stuff to remember/do in a short time play in play out.... Its not basic Edited February 26, 2012 by madman88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 Watched him at Tech. Very athletic but very unfocused. Use to drop the easiest passes. Some team will take him high due to his measurables. Hopefully he will pan out in the NFLyep he had a very poor year his sophomore year with way too many drops and then last year i saw plenty of dropped passes from him as well. vel is right he is very raw and has to learn a lot when it comes to route running also. he has a lot of potential, but it could take him a while to get to a level to be able to reach it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Negatorris Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He's fast, but sometimes he looked lost when running drills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Stephen Hill may have made his way into the first round. Don't pay the BS not attention. The kid can play. He may be a little raw, but has great hands, and all of the physical attributes. His broad jump may have been better than Julio's. Chicago may be targeting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBourneMurkedU Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Youngbloodz blowing smoke up everyone's *** LOLGo back to whatever football school you graduated from and ask for your $ back bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanless Falcons Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's all basic. And it is that easy if you study. In the NFL they do a great job at disguising their coverages. I've talked to countless NFL players. So when these people tell me it isn't hard I will believe them over anyone else when it comes to the game of football. Football isn't a hard sport at all. Pre snap recognition isn't close to being hard. It's just everything is happening so fast once the ball is snap.It is not hard to them(if these said people are not fictitious). Addition is not hard to you, but to a first grader it is. God what has madden done to the sport that so many of us love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He's inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wokezone Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Lol chances are we are going after Quick later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rob 64 Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He is running his routes pretty good at the combine so it may be less work than we thinkSeriously? Combine routes are in credibly simple, vanilla, basic, and are done without a DB hand-checking and shadowing you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Stephen Hill may have made his way into the first round. Don't pay the BS not attention. The kid can play. He may be a little raw, but has great hands, and all of the physical attributes. His broad jump may have been better than Julio's. Chicago may be targeting him. Can't have been as good as Julio's because he did'nt have a broken bone in his foot.I gotta think Julio's combine performance has to go down as one of the best in history I don't recall many guys running and jumping putting up numbers like those with that injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niels petersen Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) I still think he is a 3-5 round prospect. Don't let the 4.3 confuse you. Look at the tape. He is VERY raw. No route running, poor defensive recognition. Not the whole package. Look at his tape vs Julio's tape. Julio showed that explosiveness every snap. Hill struggles snap to snap unless he is just running straight. That's the problem. He is a 4.3 guy in shorts and running straight, but make him decipher an NFL defense and that 4.3 goes to a 4.5 and he looks like Jenkins.This is not saying he can't develop, but he has a lot of work beyond his 40.I absolutely agree. I think he is a 3rd round prospect, with a high ceiling. He has the straight line speed and the size, but other than that he has to work on pretty much every other aspect of the game, especially route running and creating separation on other routes than the 9 route.. His hands seem pretty good though.That said, I think the recent success of Calvin Johnson and Demayrius Thomas from the GT program, will make GMs and owners a little bit more willing to take a chance on a guy like Hill a little bit sooner than his projection would suggest.I really don't think we are very interested in Hill one year after bringing in a much better talent in Julio. Edited February 27, 2012 by niels petersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StatzQuo Posted February 28, 2012 Share Posted February 28, 2012 Youngbloodz blowing smoke up everyone's *** LOLGo back to whatever football school you graduated from and ask for your $ back broHe went to The U if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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