THE ICEMAN Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 The reason I ask that is because in my opinion Grimes is best sutied to play in a zone heavy style D like ours(old one) or the colts or the basic tampa 2 were he can gamble a lot more when he was playing a lot of bump and run and just making plays on the ball. In Nolans system I think we'll see a lot more press and man to man which could mean Grimes then may be best sutied to play the nickle and if that happens I think we'll be over paying for him. With that said I do think he can still play at a high level in Nolans system and remain on the outside but people forget that BVG system and Nolans are two completley different systems and some players may not fit as well as some believe because our D was built for speed and not really to play a pyshical brand of D that Nolan calls and it won't shock me to see Lofton retained and the rest let walk to bring in replacements to build the D Nolan invisions but it will be intresting to see what the falcons do because they can't make any more bad signing like the Dunta one and the jury's still out on Edwards to but that ones not nearly as bad as the Robinson deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nope absolutley not.. if were interested in boykins then that should tell u no.. similar type of cb... Quick feet plays better off man oh and is around grimey height... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 We're not keeping Grimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 As long as Grimes isn't asked to jam the WR at the LOS. As long as he can play off and either sit in a zone and react or tail the guy in his hip-pocket, he covers as well as ANYONE in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caver50 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Nope absolutley not.. if were interested in boykins then that should tell u no.. similar type of cb... Quick feet plays better off man oh and is around grimey height...I didn't know that we were interested in Boykins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 If Grimes can play like Charles Woodson at nickel than I would be happy to pay the man. I hope we can find a way to keep him and Lofton. It would be nice to keep Harry and Decoud as well. All at the right price of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes can play in any system. He doesn't have to jam the WR at the line to play man. Grimes' click and close when playing off man is probably the best in the league. He shut down Calvin Johnson as well. I think some people are confused about what exactly a man scheme entails. Yes, jamming helps as it disrupts the timing, but if a QB is already scared to go to your side on a hot read, then it's just as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 his play is already slipping, 2010 was as high as he is going to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes can play in any system. He doesn't have to jam the WR at the line to play man. Grimes' click and close when playing off man is probably the best in the league. He shut down Calvin Johnson as well. I think some people are confused about what exactly a man scheme entails. Yes, jamming helps as it disrupts the timing, but if a QB is already scared to go to your side on a hot read, then it's just as effective. he had help over the top guarding Calvin Johnson. He got 1 knock down and everyone goes crazy. When he tried to jam CJ at the line, CJ ran right past him effortlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roncatto Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I've read loads of topics and not seen this raised, sorry if it has, but could the Falcons consider franchising Grimes and then trading him to a CB needy team for a pick or picks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I've read loads of topics and not seen this raised, sorry if it has, but could the Falcons consider franchising Grimes and then trading him to a CB needy team for a pick or picks? problem with that is he would more than likely have a 1st round tender and no one will make that trade. Probably wouldnt even give up a 2nd round pick for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlGM Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes will thrive in any system as vel said he pretty much shut down calvin. If you go back and watch that game the only time calvin broke free was when we went to a zone that had grimes playing the flat. Most qbs dont even attack grimes side and when they do he is there to make a play on the ball . How many times do you remember grimes getting best for a first down or big play down field not many right. The guy is one of therr best in the league and shows up in big games plus he has brees's number and we do see the saints twice a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ol'_dirty2 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes isn't "lights out" anyway. I like Grimes though and he is a playmaker, but he can be beat as any other corner can. If we can keep him at a reasonable price then cool. If not, it's okay for him to go get paid. If we get ANY rush up front, our secondary will start to look just fine with some of the younger guys we have on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 he had help over the top guarding Calvin Johnson. He got 1 knock down and everyone goes crazy. When he tried to jam CJ at the line, CJ ran right past him effortlessly.Might want to watch that game again. He had three passes defensed(one was called a drop by Johnson), and the only play CJ broke free was when Grimes redirected him inside while covering underneath and DeCoud completely failed over the top. He shut down Calvin Johnson every time he was matched up on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 2. Brent Grimes, CBWith Lardarius Webb a restricted free agent, Grimes jumps to the top of our cornerback rankings, and up to second on our list of available free agents. One of the best cornerbacks in the league, Grimes has been exceptional over the past two years–breaking up 28 passes and intercepting six more in that time frame.I'm sorry but PFF seems to have thought otherwise the last 2 years. Grimes has been a really good corner for us. My only fear is that his best days are behind him. Saying Grimes isn't that good is just a knock to try and justify if he walks. It's just like trying to justify letting Abe walk when he still is wreaking havoc just because he is old. Without "old Abe" we would have had absolutely no pass rush whatsoever last year. Ask PFF:3. John Abraham, DEAbraham isn’t getting any younger, but then his production isn’t showing any signs of tailing off. You may not get many good years, but unless his play falls off a cliff you’ll still be getting a pass rusher who gets as much pressure as anyone. Has ranked among our top seven defensive ends in each of the last four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Radical Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes isn't "lights out" anyway.He led the NFC in completion percentage on passes thrown his way, 3rd in the NFL, and that was after he had his worst game of the season coming off injury against the Saints(which still wasn't bad by league standards). He's a lights out cover corner. All his stats have him up there with guys like Revis and Samuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane#7 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Grimes is going to get paid somewhere else....Give me pass rush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub051082 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Why wouldn't Grimes have success in Nolan system. Dumb post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftfield Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 I expect we will make Grimes an offer but not the strongest one he would get. Their are roughly 8 teams with horrible secondary issues and 4-5 of them have cap space to play with. Our secondary does have depth though. Owens Franks and Walls are all considered to be developing really well. So we place our trust in them. In our league they will receive ample opportunity to show what they can do considering the talented QB depth we face.The pass rush issues we have is one of the other problem that needs to be addressed, We don't seem to have as much moolah as people think so for sure we're going to come up short somewhere at the bargaining table.I think that Nolan and the FO will appreciate these factors. They may pick up someone cheaper in FA but more likely look for sleeper talent late in the draft. This years draft is not deep on Safety or CB depth but next years draft will see us have probably double the amount of draft picks. What I am saying here is secondary will be fine and if we need a stud opportunity next year will be fine.Pass rush and O line quality is where the money should be spent with the draft picking up more development depth in those areas and perhaps a TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Why wouldn't Grimes have success in Nolan system. Dumb post.I agree.A CB is a CB is a CB, I dont care who's freaking system or alignment.Grimey is a Player and boi gots game, Big Time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK13 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 grimes will be in another uniform next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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