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I'd hope we draft a WR in the mid rounds, and Eric Page is the perfect slot/returner, nearly broke the record for returns for TDs, as a junior, I believe he had 5 in his 3 years, and was Toledo's only weapon well besides Adonis Thomas, who I really like as well, as a bruiser.

Back onto Page, in his 3 years at Toledo had 306 receptions, finished his career with 3,446 receiving yards, and 30 TD's in his 3 years in college, 5 of those being returning.

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1) they say MM wants him at JAX, WHY? he never used him here, why does he want him in JAX?

2) If you were Douglas and were never used by MM, Why would you sign with a team being ran by MM?

3) The way people are describing Koetter's scheme seems like Douglas would be a good fit and be used a lot. You would think Douglas would be interested in coming back to ATL (if $$$ is right)

4) If ATL looses Douglas who replaces him? Cone, Davis, Meier, Weems. . I really really do not want to see the Falcons use 1 of their 5 Draft picks on a WR.---Way way too many other big NEEDS

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I can actually see us going after CB, DE and FS in FA, but drafting offensively. We need proven players on the defensive side and at LT, but there are lots of good OGs, TEs and RBs in the draft.

The most starting caliber FAs Atl has signed in 1 season is 3 (plus other backup type FA).

08 Turner, Foxworth, Wire?

09 Gonzales, Peterson, B Williams

10 Robinson

11 Edwards

So say at most 3 this year

and they only have 5 draft picks 2, 3, 5, 6, 7

I doubt there will be comp picks this year.

Maybe 1 or 2 very low rounds

Now you have listed 7 positions plus others want a DT a WR etc.

Going to be hard to do it all in 1 season, since your 5, 6, 7 rounders will not be 1st year starters

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The most starting caliber FAs Atl has signed in 1 season is 3 (plus other backup type FA).

08 Turner, Foxworth, Wire?

09 Gonzales, Peterson, B Williams

10 Robinson

11 Edwards

So say at most 3 this year

and they only have 5 draft picks 2, 3, 5, 6, 7

I doubt there will be comp picks this year.

Maybe 1 or 2 very low rounds

Now you have listed 7 positions plus others want a DT a WR etc.

Going to be hard to do it all in 1 season, since your 5, 6, 7 rounders will not be 1st year starters

I have us trading down our 2nd round pick for a 3rd and 4th and getting a comp 5th. Basically, here's how I have us drafting atm:

3rd (Colts): Doug Martin, RB. 5'9, 210 lbs, 4.50 40, Boise St.

Everyone's hyped up on Lamichael James and Chris Polk, both of whom will either be late second or early third round picks, but it seems like Doug is left off on almost everyone's lists. And yet, he's my favorite of any of those running backs, and he has the opportunity to make a truly immediate impact, and even start for us for years to come. Put simply, he's got it all if you ask me. He's got great lower body strength, he moves very well laterally, has great burst, decent to good hands, and the best work ethic of any RB not named Trent Richardson at the college level. He started off buried in the depth chart and quickly made a name for himself through his dedication, and he's the type of underdog in that situation that I'm a total sucker for. Basically, I watch him and he reminds me of Ray Rice. The biggest thing for me is that he's a true 3-down back - he's great running and good at catching, and he'll likely be a steal in the 3rd round like this. He'll sit a year or so behind Turner unless we trade him, but I feel like that'll be good for him. Either way, one of my favorite possible third round draft picks.

3rd (Raiders): Brandon Boykin, CB. 5'10, 183 lbs, 4.43 40, Georgia

This is easily one of my favorite CBs coming out of the college level - he reminds me of Grimes, in many ways. He's fast, agile, loose hips, sticks to the receiver like glue, can jump like a beast, and is generally a stellar defensive back. He also has very good hands for a corner, and he'd be a true ballhawk in the NFL. The biggest knock on him is his size, as well as his mediocre ability in the run game - a legitimate concern, but not something I'm inclined to pay too much mind to when drafting a corner with this much potential. If we manage to get Boykin (this is right about where he's expected to go) I'll be high on life.

3rd: Michael Egnew, TE. 6'6, 245 lbs, 4.60 40, Missouri.

Gonzales, meet protege. Protege, meet Gonzales. Egnew is an absolute monster, the prototypical athletic tight end that teams have been searching for recently. He has great body control, works well in open space, and is one of the best route running tight ends in the draft. The only issue is his weight, and even so, his athleticism trumps that easily, and he's still a more than serviceable blocker. His hands are good but not great, however, I think that Gonzales can easily coach him up to the next level with his years of experience.

4th (Colts): Brandon Brooks, OG. 6'5, 353 lbs, 5.32 40, Miami (Ohio)

You know how we've been talking about beefing up the trenches? Well, Brooks has enough beef to take up the trench by himself. He's a mauler, but he's a great pass blocker too, and he'd easily be a steal at the guard position, and I think he could likely start at RG right away if need be. Brooks is projected to be an early 4th round pick, and it doesn't get earlier than the Colts fourth rounder - I doubt any of us will be upset with a draft pick along these lines. He reminds me of someone like Carl Nicks for the Saints, someone who will manhandle his man all year long. While I know those expectations are unrealistic and have tempered them as such, I still wouldn't be horribly surprised to see him make an immediate and incredible impact for our Falcons.

5th: Darius Fleming, OLB. 6'2, 255 lbs, 4.65 40, Notre Dame

This guy is a personal favorite of mine, being able to play both DE and OLB (which is perfect, considering that we'll likely use some elements of the 3-4 in our defense this year). He only had 3.5 sacks this year, but he stepped it up in the big games - ie, he had 2 of those against Pittsburgh, and another against BC. He's a very solid prospect, and good value in the 5th round, especially as a player that can be moved around in this defense.

5th (Comp): Mitchell Schwartz, OT. 6'5, 318 lbs, 5.36 40, California

The anti-Baker in the draft, if you ask me. A low round pick with great footwork, good strength and power in his push, and a very high intellect (had a 4.0 GPA in college I believe). His technique needs some work, but he has all the athleticism needed to be a mauler OT. It'd be great if he could learn how to better direct the DE, but for now, he'd be great in the run game, and at least suitable in the passing game, as a backup. Could develop further too, I just don't want to have outrageous expectations.

6th: Kellen Moore, QB. 5'11, 195 lbs, 4.85 40, Boise St.

The fact that most mocks have Moore falling this far is astounding to me. He's a definite risk due to his height, which is amplified even further with all the big bodies in the NFL, but he has more intangibles than most QBs ahead of him in the draft. Not to say that he's only got things that can't be written on paper - he's accurate, got great pocket presence, surprising mobility, and enough arm to make most throws. He'll likely be our 3rd string QB, but is a definite upgrade over JPW. And to be honest, I think he could easily become one of the better backups in the NFL.

7th: Nicolas Jean-Baptiste, DT. 6'2, 335 lbs, 5.06 40, Baylor.

Baptiste impressed me this year, and he obviously has the type of mass that one looks for in an NT. He's got a ton of power too, it's not just a blubbery mass of goo that we're discussing - he's very big, and he's strong, like a wrecking ball. The biggest issue is how he uses his hands, and whether or not he uses them at all. He's not a finesse guy, that much is for sure. While I can't say I expect him to do a ton, he's a very raw and very intriguing prospect that could develop into something special in the future. He's great in the run game, and at least passable in pass rushing. I especially love getting him around the 7th round.

Then, we restructure Ryan's contruct, cut Baker and Kelly, once it's all said and done we have roughly 35 mil cap space (explained better in my original draft thread, might throw up a full offseason soon-ish). Structuring the deals atm (a rough draft) would look like this:

Grimes - 6 year 48 million, 20 million guaranteed, 6 million signing bonus, 6 mil cap hit

Abe - 2 year 11 million, 5 mil cap hit

Lofton - 5 year 26 million, 10 million guaranteed, 4 million signing bonus, 4 mil cap hit

Douglas - 5 year 15 million, 5 million guaranteed, 2 million signing bonus, 2 mil cap hit

Smith - 3 year 2 million, 660k cap hit

Walker - 3 year 2 million, 660 cap hit

Sanders - 2 year 2 million, 1 mil cap hit

...and in external FA:

Jared Gaither, OT - 4 year 15 million, 3 million signing bonus, 3 mil cap hit

Michael Griffin, FS - 5 year 26 million, 4 million signing bonus, 4 mil cap hit

Robert Mathis, DE - 4 year 24 million, 4 million signing bonus, 5 mil cap hit

Other non-starting caliber/backups:

Jason Campbell, QB - 5 year 10 million, 2 mil cap hit

Pat Sims, DT - 3 year 5 million, 1.5 mil cap hit

I'd be more in depth, but I'm about to have dinner and this is just a vague offseason wishlist.

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HD is one of two guys on our team that can plant his foot in the ground, turn upfield, and score from pretty much anywhere on the field. if matty can hit him in stride that is. if HD goes, i could care less about this team. i hate to sound like a bandwagon fan, but i love that kid, and if the front office cant see why they need to hang onto him, then they just dont deserve my support, i give up on em.

but i do like the brandin Boykin pick, should be an instant starter and punt returner

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