Who Did You Want As An Oc?

[Faithful Falcon]

I see a lot of complaining. Similar to the complaining when Matt Ryan was drafted instead of Dorsey. It seems to be more about popularity around here. I see a lot of people shooting this man down, and saying "I hope that I am wrong". In the reality, you hope that you are right. Just for the enjoyment of saying I told you so. Big names don't give you big results. Do you know who the Saints and Packers OCs are? Did you know them before they had their respected jobs?

[the baptist]

I see a lot of complaining. Similar to the complaining when Matt Ryan was drafted instead of Dorsey. It seems to be more about popularity around here. I see a lot of people shooting this man down, and saying "I hope that I am wrong". In the reality, you hope that you are right. Just for the enjoyment of saying I told you so. Big names don't give you big results. Do you know who the Saints and Packers OCs are? Did you know them before they had their respected jobs?

Mind you both of the teams you mentioned are at home now, I dont know about the Packers and Mccarthy but I believe Sean Payton gave up his duties of calling the plays when he hurt his knee?

Im sure he regrets that now

I can agree big names may not yield results, but I am one to side with experience, of which this guy has little in the NFL, and very little in the post season

And experience is what we needed to "win championships"..........its in quotes because I thought this is what blank said he wanted, but I guess not

This guy must go through 2 seasons of adjusting to the talent they say he never had and if an atrocity of an injury doesnt occur and we make the playoffs, now he has to scheme for teams and coordinators who understand that level of play

To cut myself off, I really thought he would bring in Brian Billick, he has the experience the success and the knowledge of this game in the regular and post season

Billick and Spag would have said to me, we want to win Championships, This guy they hired baffles me, this particular team will be past its prime by the time he makes the adjusment

[Peyton]

I see a lot of complaining. Similar to the complaining when Matt Ryan was drafted instead of Dorsey. It seems to be more about popularity around here. I see a lot of people shooting this man down, and saying "I hope that I am wrong". In the reality, you hope that you are right. Just for the enjoyment of saying I told you so. Big names don't give you big results. Do you know who the Saints and Packers OCs are? Did you know them before they had their respected jobs?

I don't think that's true. Not at all. Maybe for a select one or two people, but not in general.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to be disappointed that the Falcons picked the guy who led the worst offense in the league this year,. Maybe he will turn out to be a good hire, but it's silly to say the skepticism isn't warranted.

[Peyton]

To answer the question asked in the title, I hoped the Falcons would consider Ralph Friedgen. The guy has never experienced anything remotely close to failure in 30+ years of coaching.

[Faithful Falcon]

Mind you both of the teams you mentioned are at home now, I dont know about the Packers and Mccarthy but I believe Sean Payton gave up his duties of calling the plays when he hurt his knee?

Im sure he regrets that now

I can agree big names may not yield results, but I am one to side with experience, of which this guy has little in the NFL, and very little in the post season

And experience is what we needed to "win championships"..........its in quotes because I thought this is what blank said he wanted, but I guess not

This guy must go through 2 seasons of adjusting to the talent they say he never had and if an atrocity of an injury doesnt occur and we make the playoffs, now he has to scheme for teams and coordinators who understand that level of play

To cut myself off, I really thought he would bring in Brian Billick, he has the experience the success and the knowledge of this game in the regular and post season

Billick and Spag would have said to me, we want to win Championships, This guy they hired baffles me, this particular team will be past its prime by the time he makes the adjusment

Actually, it seems like the Saints Offense got better after Peyton's Injury. As far as them being at home. Neither of them had a decent enough defense. Also, we haven't hired a DC yet, so Spag is not out of the picture.

[the baptist]

Actually, it seems like the Saints Offense got better after Peyton's Injury. As far as them being at home. Neither of them had a decent enough defense. Also, we haven't hired a DC yet, so Spag is not out of the picture.

You said it correctly, It SEEMED LIKE, actually you brought me to the exact point Im making about this guy they hired

Whoever it was, they said his name once but I cant remember, that was calling the plays for the saints, did not yet have an understanding of the level of play the 49ers would bring, The defense for the saints was not the issue, it was the defense for the 49ers taking the confidence of the Saints offense away

The defense of the saints is set up to compliment the high scoring offense, Actually the Giants defense did the same thing to Rodgers

I didnt see Mccarthy holding the highlighted card so im not sure but Im one to believe if Payton had been calling the plays the outcome would have been different because he has been there and dont that

This guy is a terrible hire, Blank is going to lose a lot of money if they start slow and next seasons schedule with the nfc east isnt cake and ice cream

Its going to take time for a guy who has been mediocre to just bad his entire career to become a superbowl winning coordinator, it just is

Getting Spags is must now, its an absolute must

[Faithful Falcon]

You said it correctly, It SEEMED LIKE, actually you brought me to the exact point Im making about this guy they hired

Whoever it was, they said his name once but I cant remember, that was calling the plays for the saints, did not yet have an understanding of the level of play the 49ers would bring, The defense for the saints was not the issue, it was the defense for the 49ers taking the confidence of the Saints offense away

The defense of the saints is set up to compliment the high scoring offense, Actually the Giants defense did the same thing to Rodgers

I didnt see Mccarthy holding the highlighted card so im not sure but Im one to believe if Payton had been calling the plays the outcome would have been different because he has been there and dont that

This guy is a terrible hire, Blank is going to lose a lot of money if they start slow and next seasons schedule with the nfc east isnt cake and ice cream

Its going to take time for a guy who has been mediocre to just bad his entire career to become a superbowl winning coordinator, it just is

Getting Spags is must now, its an absolute must

Actually, New Orleans Defense was the problem. Gregg Williams' Scheme for being overly aggressive with the blitz. San Francisco was picking it apart. Alex Smith may have not done much in his career, but he has got hit and pressured a lot. So, they made him feel at home. The question I have for everyone is: Whatever happen to the term, anyone would be better than Mularkey?

[1989Fan]

I didnt have a huge preference really. I did not want billick tho. And i did not want schottenheimer.

I wanted the team to look at clements though. They must have eally heard good things for dk to skip interviewing clements though.

[Guest Gritz]

I see a lot of complaining. Similar to the complaining when Matt Ryan was drafted instead of Dorsey. It seems to be more about popularity around here. I see a lot of people shooting this man down, and saying "I hope that I am wrong". In the reality, you hope that you are right. Just for the enjoyment of saying I told you so. Big names don't give you big results. Do you know who the Saints and Packers OCs are? Did you know them before they had their respected jobs?

Kind of a jack azz thing to say......I have always assumed that about 99% of the people who take the time to come to and regularly post on this board as Falcon fans want to see the team have huge success.....whether or not the methods they employ align with that particular poster's ideas or not.

[the baptist]

Actually, New Orleans Defense was the problem. Gregg Williams' Scheme for being overly aggressive with the blitz. San Francisco was picking it apart. Alex Smith may have not done much in his career, but he has got hit and pressured a lot. So, they made him feel at home. The question I have for everyone is: Whatever happen to the term, anyone would be better than Mularkey?

Lol you got me on the last comment, I think ive said that once before, but im not saying it now, I actually would rather have Mularkey than this guy because Mularkey now has the experience of losing post season games, with an S

Again with the saints defense, They did what they were suppose to do, the scheme doesnt look good until the saints go up, its a complimentary defense, it works it just didnt work against the niners, and I still think Payton should have called the game

[RaptorClaw]

I just don't understand why they could not have waited another couple of weeks and talked to a few other people. If they would have waited another few days they could have talked to Tom Clements. I'm not saying that would have been a better hire, it would just have been better to talk to him. It's not like there are tons of teams breaking down the door to talk to Koetter.

[1989Fan]

I just don't understand why they could not have waited another couple of weeks and talked to a few other people. If they would have waited another few days they could have talked to Tom Clements. I'm not saying that would have been a better hire, it would just have been better to talk to him. It's not like there are tons of teams breaking down the door to talk to Koetter.

We dont know this though. Just last season he was interviewed by multiple teams to be their head coach.

[samtown7]

You said it correctly, It SEEMED LIKE, actually you brought me to the exact point Im making about this guy they hired

Whoever it was, they said his name once but I cant remember, that was calling the plays for the saints, did not yet have an understanding of the level of play the 49ers would bring, The defense for the saints was not the issue, it was the defense for the 49ers taking the confidence of the Saints offense away

The defense of the saints is set up to compliment the high scoring offense, Actually the Giants defense did the same thing to Rodgers

I didnt see Mccarthy holding the highlighted card so im not sure but Im one to believe if Payton had been calling the plays the outcome would have been different because he has been there and dont that

This guy is a terrible hire, Blank is going to lose a lot of money if they start slow and next seasons schedule with the nfc east isnt cake and ice cream

Its going to take time for a guy who has been mediocre to just bad his entire career to become a superbowl winning coordinator, it just is

Getting Spags is must now, its an absolute must

Yes getting a good DC is the most important thing now but please lets stop making excuses for breeus and sean payton

[Magic Man]

Kind of a jack azz thing to say......I have always assumed that about 99% of the people who take the time to come to and regularly post on this board as Falcon fans want to see the team have huge success.....whether or not the methods they employ align with that particular poster's ideas or not.

Just as it is asinine to say something like that, there are those posters, who have a stock of preditions, hoping beyond hope that even though it means the team has failed, they were right, as it relates the Falcons and their shortcomings.

I am cautiosly optimistic of DK. I am hopeful that with the correct personnel, we can get an offense that averages 30+ a game. Do I know we will? No. Do you or any of the others who believe this is not even a remote possibility know that we will be inept on offense and not score as we should? No. All we as fans can do is sit and watch the offseason, hoping that we've gotten better.

[Aston Villa FC]

I just don't understand why they could not have waited another couple of weeks and talked to a few other people. If they would have waited another few days they could have talked to Tom Clements. I'm not saying that would have been a better hire, it would just have been better to talk to him. It's not like there are tons of teams breaking down the door to talk to Koetter.

Most likely thought they were going to the super bowl again...figured oh we can't wait that long let's get somebody I know now.

[the baptist]

I didnt have a huge preference really. I did not want billick tho. And i did not want schottenheimer.

I wanted the team to look at clements though. They must have eally heard good things for dk to skip interviewing clements though.

Does Clements call the plays in Green Bay? I dont understand, Clements has been a Coordinator once in his career, I mean I like the Packers offense but play calling is a different beast

I understand he may be in the meetings and understands the scheme but what about understanding the pressure of winning a game a post season game at that

We needed experience, the team we have now will be no more in 3 years, which is how long it will take for this guy they have to come into fruition

[swift]

Al Borges - he would have put a offense in WCO spread that would fit Ryan skill set

[the baptist]

Yes getting a good DC is the most important thing now but please lets stop making excuses for breeus and sean payton

I cant make excuses for those who have won the superbowl, I like winning, im not about this well I hate them because they are rivals and this and that

They have already accomplished what this team talks about accomplishing, the problem is Mike Smith Blank and TD all do a lot of talking

But the talk has led to this guy, a guy who doesnt know the first thing about winning, or winning in the post season

[1989Fan]

Does Clements call the plays in Green Bay? I dont understand, Clements has been a Coordinator once in his career, I mean I like the Packers offense but play calling is a different beast

I understand he may be in the meetings and understands the scheme but what about understanding the pressure of winning a game a post season game at that

We needed experience, the team we have now will be no more in 3 years, which is how long it will take for this guy they have to come into fruition

Never said i wanted him over koetter, just wish we would have interviewed some more before pulling the trigger. Wasnt clements the oc under MM in buffalo? I dont know why people though he was the savior other than the fact that rodger has become the 2nd best qb in the nfl under his watch.

With that said, i am sure smith and td had been. Looking into dc's for a year or so now with it being likely mularkey was leaving sooner than later.

[samtown7]

I cant make excuses for those who have won the superbowl, I like winning, im not about this well I hate them because they are rivals and this and that

They have already accomplished what this team talks about accomplishing, the problem is Mike Smith Blank and TD all do a lot of talking

But the talk has led to this guy, a guy who doesnt know the first thing about winning, or winning in the post season

All I know is now breeus and sean can watch the SB form the stands like the rest of us!

What they did in the past has nothing to do with right now.

[Kaptain Krazy]

i'm not as disappointed in the selection as i am the process.

the only reason you DON'T continue to interview people when there are still three weeks left in the season is because the person you may want to hire (Koetter) is so in demand that someone else may hire him if you don't pull the trigger. there's no evidence that was the case, so...

why didn't FO interview more coaches? why not wait until after the divisional round, when more coaches would be available?

just seems really strange for a FO that preaches "process" to employ such a stunted one in search of their OC.

and if you're a franchise who has established sustained success, but lacks elite status that comes with playoff runs and SB rings, the reasonable expectation is that you're looking for experience in those areas from your next hires. Koetter doesn't fit that profile, thus the frustration in the reactions from the fans.

he may turn out fine. fact is that bringing in decent OT talent is much more important than who the OC is. Sam Baker (when a team drafts an OT in the 1st round, they MUST be able to count on that position being set) had just as much to do with this offense stalling as MM. Dmitroff's two 1st round linemen picks (Baker, Jerry) have been busts, plain and simple. and teams that fail at the LOS fail to reach the top.

[samtown7]

i'm not as disappointed in the selection as i am the process.

the only reason you DON'T continue to interview people when there are still three weeks left in the season is because the person you may want to hire (Koetter) is so in demand that someone else may hire him if you don't pull the trigger. there's no evidence that was the case, so...

why didn't FO interview more coaches? why not wait until after the divisional round, when more coaches would be available?

just seems really strange for a FO that preaches "process" to employ such a stunted one in search of their OC.

and if you're a franchise who has established sustained success, but lacks elite status that comes with playoff runs and SB rings, the reasonable expectation is that you're looking for experience in those areas from your next hires. Koetter doesn't fit that profile, thus the frustration in the reactions from the fans.

he may turn out fine. fact is that bringing in decent OT talent is much more important than who the OC is. Sam Baker (when a team drafts an OT in the 1st round, they MUST be able to count on that position being set) had just as much to do with this offense stalling as MM. Dmitroff's two 1st round linemen picks (Baker, Jerry) have been busts, plain and simple. and teams that fail at the LOS fail to reach the top.

i'm not as disappointed in the selection as i am the process.

the only reason you DON'T continue to interview people when there are still three weeks left in the season is because the person you may want to hire (Koetter) is so in demand that someone else may hire him if you don't pull the trigger. there's no evidence that was the case, so...

why didn't FO interview more coaches? why not wait until after the divisional round, when more coaches would be available?

just seems really strange for a FO that preaches "process" to employ such a stunted one in search of their OC.

and if you're a franchise who has established sustained success, but lacks elite status that comes with playoff runs and SB rings, the reasonable expectation is that you're looking for experience in those areas from your next hires. Koetter doesn't fit that profile, thus the frustration in the reactions from the fans.

he may turn out fine. fact is that bringing in decent OT talent is much more important than who the OC is. Sam Baker (when a team drafts an OT in the 1st round, they MUST be able to count on that position being set) had just as much to do with this offense stalling as MM. Dmitroff's two 1st round linemen picks (Baker, Jerry) have been busts, plain and simple. and teams that fail at the LOS fail to reach the top.

Don't you think that MS and TD know that if the OC does not work out that their necks or on the chopping block.

[Peyton]

Don't you think that MS and TD know that if the OC does not work out that their necks or on the chopping block.

I think that is true of MS, but not TD. TD will have much more rope than Smith.

[Guest Gritz]

I think that is true of MS, but not TD. TD will have much more rope than Smith.

That's true, but I don't know if it's fair or not....

If the Falcons continue to be a good regular season team and absolutely disappear in the playoffs then Dimitroff is just as culpable as Smith in my eyes.....

Can see and understand a good counter argument....Just my opinion.

[Ethanga62890]

That's true, but I don't know if it's fair or not....

If the Falcons continue to be a good regular season team and absolutely disappear in the playoffs then Dimitroff is just as culpable as Smith in my eyes.....

Can see and understand a good counter argument....Just my opinion.

Ehh. GM job is to acquire talent. If your going to the postseason almost every year the talent is there.