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So just an objective question/analysis of the hire? Looking at the overview this guy has a very impressive college resume and his first year at Jacksonville was impressive I am wondering del rio maybe dabbled a bit to much in the offensive gameplan. I always heard rumors that del rio stuck his nose in too much with his coordinators. Maybe with free reign of the offense maybe he could excel. I honestly hate the hire but just trying to reach for some type of positive.

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Maybe with free reign of the offense maybe he could excel.

Thats the prob. He wont have free reign. He will get handed a playbook and be handcuffed. No way they give him the helm. The choice to hire him was to fill in for MM, not replace him for doing a bad job.

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Only thing I don't like about the hire is that we didn't interview not another single person, and it seemed like we rushed. Hue Jackson, and Todd Haley could have been interviewed, but I still have faith that this organization is not full of complete idiots. They must see something we don't.

I actually believe Koetter will succeed with us, and I hope my gut is telling my right.

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Thats the prob. He wont have free reign. He will get handed a playbook and be handcuffed. No way they give him the helm. The choice to hire him was to fill in for MM, not replace him for doing a bad job.

If that's the case, then Smitty is basically handing in the towel. He should be the last person to ever handle anything with the offense. His safe, nice, conservative philosophies don't belong on offensive schemes, and he has already showed why. I'd rather Koetter be free.

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If that's the case, then Smitty is basically handing in the towel. He should be the last person to ever handle anything with the offense. His safe, nice, conservative philosophies don't belong on offensive schemes, and he has already showed why. I'd rather Koetter be free.

Agreed! I hope Smitty keeps his conservative call out of the offense. Especially on 3rd/4th and short. I hope Koetter proves to be innovative and above all else keeps the throttle down when we have leads like the Pats do!

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If that's the case, then Smitty is basically handing in the towel. He should be the last person to ever handle anything with the offense. His safe, nice, conservative philosophies don't belong on offensive schemes, and he has already showed why. I'd rather Koetter be free.

The jags fans where saying 5 days ago this was the switch that would happen. We interviewed 1 guy. That only 2 weeks earlier we killed his team. There was no sign we would have replaced MM and we sure didn't go out our way to interview a bunch of people to see who would be best for the job.

You know it fits. They will hand him our playbook and say "this is how we do it" and not let him install his own playbook.

Im hoping for at best creative game planning, half time adjustments and additional passing plays added (like screens). But the blaybook will still be ours. At best he maybe given enough slack to say "Smith we will add these plays this game and if they work id like to add these next week.".

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As long as he builds the offense with Ryan like Payton and Brees did, we are already a step in the right direction. MM's playbook was built for 1 QB and never molded to his current situation. Koetter is more aware with what is going on in the NFL right now and open to copying what's working (vertical attacks on the seams, back shoulder throws, etc). That's what we all wanted.

Koetter fully understands the way to build a successful aerial passing attack. No passing attack will work when you have a QB that can barely complete 50% of his passes (Gabbert) or when the weapons your offense is equipped with has a back up QB at best as the starter and #3 WRs all over the field. It's stupid to say that he should have been able to succeed with that. That's like saying if we all trotted out there, he should have been able to be better than 32.

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As Julio Jones found when handed his first Atlanta playbook, the Falcons and the Tide have used very similar offenses as of late. If Saban thinks it'll work in Tuscaloosa, there's a good sign as to why Mike Smith thinks it'll work in Atlanta. We'll have to go digging to find more evidence as to whether Koetter is capable of constructing bolder attacks than Mularkey was, but there are signs he's been able to produce when working with sufficient resources.

It sounds like Nick may have been doing a little OC screening for us which is why I believe that we made the hire. Think about it for a minute Julio excelled in the offense that they were running there in Bama and it would appear that he will in this one too as they also had trent richardson a rogers type who is leaving for the draft this 2012 who also excelled in it which is why both trades were made and that jumped up in the draft to make both of them. This is interesting as nick was also instrumental in the Julio draft pick for the Falcons meaning the Falcons really value his word and he confirmed to them after an interview with him this past week between him and dirk and was blown away and probably told them to pull the trigger this is your guy. That's why we are hoping that john Parker Wilson can take Redman's spot he also comes from Bama and it seems that Atlanta is pulling the trigger because of influence of Nick Saban. The falcons see something and they are going with it and I think Nick is part of that reason. We may see a lot of Julio and Rogers this 2012 as they will be an important part of the explosive campaign and there may be some big surprise moves made as Blank stated that there will be no sacred cows but there may be some sacrificial cows. This is just my take on it you can give yours but I'm going to give koetter a shot.

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It is not like a coach that had a bad career with one team has never moved on to another team and had great success. That is all we can hope for now.

Yes we can hope. But we didn't see "the process" of "evaluating talent for the best person" for this job. I didn't hear about any other team even considering him. So why where we so rushed? It sounds more like Smith knew the guy and wanted someone he could trust, instead of the most experienced.

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How do you guys know who we interviewed td and company have always been tight lipped with information we don't know who all they interviewed for the job.

We dont know. But the jags fans where saying 5 days ago this would happen and said the source was ESPN. Either they are physic or this wasn't the biggest secret.

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Well I am not shy about admitting my total lack of knowledge of the NFL in general. I am just a rah rah fan rooting for my Falcons.

I have read all the stuff you guys posted about him, so I am kind of worried that Smith is going with a familiar name rather than what we really need. I mean Jacksonville's offense is hardly impressive no matter who the personnel are on their team. However, I remember how shocked I was when we hired Smitty as well, and I think that turned out very well..

For now, I will just trust that Smitty and TD know what they are doing. We will all see next season. Also, don't forget there is surely nothing wrong with a strong running game. We just saw the Packers get their butts handed to them largely because they are a totally one dimension team, so I am glad our new OC had a strong running game in Jacksonville.

BUT we sure better see some more creative passing from him or what was the point in hiring him?

TY - just my 2 cents.

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Yes we can hope. But we didn't see "the process" of "evaluating talent for the best person" for this job. I didn't hear about any other team even considering him. So why where we so rushed? It sounds more like Smith knew the guy and wanted someone he could trust, instead of the most experienced.

well I know he interviewed for the OC job at Alabama and just cause we didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen. We didn't hear squat about the draft day trade or even that we were looking to move up until it was a done deal.
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So just an objective question/analysis of the hire? Looking at the overview this guy has a very impressive college resume and his first year at Jacksonville was impressive I am wondering del rio maybe dabbled a bit to much in the offensive gameplan. I always heard rumors that del rio stuck his nose in too much with his coordinators. Maybe with free reign of the offense maybe he could excel. I honestly hate the hire but just trying to reach for some type of positive.

Impressive college resume you say?

Koetter was the head coach for three seasons at Boise State from 1998–2000, before moving to Arizona State in 2001. His record with the Broncos was 26–10 (.722), with two Big West Conference titles and two bowl victories. At Arizona State, Koetter compiled a 40–34 record, and four winning seasons in six years. Under Koetter, the Sun Devils became known for a vertical passing attack. He held a 1–11 record against top 10 teams, and was 2–19 against ranked teams. On November 26, 2006, The Arizona Republic reported that Koetter was being terminated as ASU football coach.[1] His final game was the 2006 Hawaii Bowl on Christmas Eve, a 41–24 loss.

I wouldnt call that impressive at all. The bowl games he was in and the two he won were not major bowls (Holiday,Sun,Hawaii,Humanitarian)

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well I know he interviewed for the OC job at Alabama and just cause we didn't hear about it doesn't mean it didn't happen. We didn't hear squat about the draft day trade or even that we were looking to move up until it was a done deal.

They may have went rough several people. But the choice didn't seem to be a person who was creating a ton of buzz by teams wanting to talk with him. Your right though, we will never know if it was just him or a bunch.

1 thing is for sure. 5 days ago jag fans where saying it would happen. They where happy to let us have him and they almost seemed to feel sorry for us. Most think it was a pretty even trade for them to get MM. Many think both teams got screwed. But the fans didn't like him either.

But the biggest tie between us and them is the fact Smith knew him. Just seems odd this went so fast and its a low demand person that our HC knows (that came from a losing team). Yet we haven't landed a DC and watch it will be someone that he has never worked with probably.

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1) Koetter fully understands the way to build a successful aerial passing attack.

2) No passing attack will work when you have a QB that can barely complete 50% of his passes (Gabbert) or when the weapons your offense is equipped with has a back up QB at best as the starter and #3 WRs all over the field.

3) It's stupid to say that he should have been able to succeed with that. That's like saying if we all trotted out there, he should have been able to be better than 32.

1) This assumption is based upon what, exactly?

2) Part of an OC's job is to coach up the most important player on the roster: the QB. Gabbert got worse the more time he spent under Koetter.

3) Even if true, being last with crappy talent does not mean one can necessarily thrive and dominate given top talent.

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