THE ICEMAN Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 There is now way this happens manley because thats Ryan's guy and just think he had a really bad year as alot of you'all are saying and still put up 100 catches and almost 1300 yards 8Tds and made the probowl. Then if any of the people on here watched every game one thing Roddy has always been is money on 3rd downs and made a ton of very diffuclt catches somthing that Jones hasn't done a hole lot of plus factor the coverage that Roddy was pulling away from Jones.Then with Roddy being our most competive guy as smith calls him I hate to see what he does next season with Jones and a full offseason because you know after this season Roddy going to come back strong. Guys like Roddy are very hard to find just look how long it took to find the guy to help Roddy and now some people want to trade him it makes no sense.But if we get the heathly in shape Roddy from 2010 pair him with Jones,Tony G and HD and they'll be very diffuclt to stop. Now if TD can just get that OL from average to good at pass blocking and we may get the offense we all though we had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I do not want the team to trade Roddy. They can fix the OL through FA if they do not resign Abe and Grimes. I would be fine with that, I am just not sure they will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wwfalconfan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Amen brother !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXVIII-III Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 There are scenarios where Roddy could be traded, but I personally would not want it to happen. Now, with that being said, Roddy could have won a couple of games for us this season just by doing his job and catching the ball. On top of that, he had countless idiotic penalties. Roddy's head is getting big, and I love the guy, so its a real bummer to see it happen. If he can get himself under control, no way I'd like to see him go, but if he truly turns into a full fledged Diva, he can do that sh!t somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Syrup Golden 32 Oz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 In my estimation, people calling for Roddy's trade have an agenda and don't like him "personally" Trading away your BEST player isn't intelligent, so common sense says those clamoring for it do so only on emotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenfoot Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Where has it been reported he is on the block? No way Falcons do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookAboutFalcon Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) A reasonable topic about Roddy, about time thank you.Agreed with have to keep Roddy he has repore with Matt. Edited January 13, 2012 by LookAboutFalcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 In my estimation, people calling for Roddy's trade have an agenda and don't like him "personally" Trading away your BEST player isn't intelligent, so common sense says those clamoring for it do so only on emotion.Either that, or they realize that he is the only player that we could really trade this season worth anything. They may realize that there is a salary cap and letting Abe and Grimes go might not be what they want to do. They might think that we have an abundance of great receivers and lack in other areas. That just might be it.Roddy is the fan favorite of a lot of fans, but if trading him fixes the OL, I think they will go along with it. Why Roddy? Well, you don't get a great player by trading your crappiest player away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Roddy got more heart than everybody on the team so when he started getting disgruntled, you know something is wrong. we can win with the talent we already have on this team. people just panicking cause we don't have a first round pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx FaLcOhoLiC Xx Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 We'd be dumb as h*ll to get rid of Roddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 In my estimation, people calling for Roddy's trade have an agenda and don't like him "personally" Trading away your BEST player isn't intelligent, so common sense says those clamoring for it do so only on emotion.Make a list of those people and you will see the flip back and forth during the season. We had a ton of people who wanted to throw the rest of the season after week 3 because we started off slow. Why because they said we could get a better draft pick.All season long people want players and coaches cut or traded, then all off season they want everyone cut or traded.Then there is the agenda people. Where other fans from other teams come in here and try and rally fans against players. It happen alot to Ryan.Then there is the haters/ trolls. They hate everything and everyone. They just have fun trying to annoy others.No matter what coach we get or players we draft or FA`s we sign... they will complain about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Syrup Golden 32 Oz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Resigning Abraham?? Lol, not likely. He's old, AND disappears under bright lights. "abundance of GREAT receivers" REALLY!? WHO?! We have Julio with great POTENTIAL...the decline is sharp after that, unless you're a "Kerry Meier can be as good as Jerry Rice" kinda guy. Sorry but in the NFL, a bird in the hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't want to trade Roddy either, but the fact remains they may be considering it because they have to do something if we want to win next season. I would be fine if they totally ignore the defense, let Abe and Grimes go. As long as they put together an offense that will score more points than the other team, I don't care.They may not see that as realistic though and look for a way to retain the good players we have and be able to afford to fix the OL. The reason the talk about trading Roddy has surfaced is that is the only way. If we had Matt Flynn on the bench, talk about trading Ryan would come up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcon22 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't see it, even if Julio Jones becomes receiver #1 next year, Roddy White will be 1A. I understand Harry Douglas can be used more, but he is a solid # 2 that we just need to use more. We need to get ready for Gonzalez retirement and phase him out of the offense slowly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 In my estimation, people calling for Roddy's trade have an agenda and don't like him "personally" Trading away your BEST player isn't intelligent, so common sense says those clamoring for it do so only on emotion.Roddy was the best WR because he benefited from not having another receiving threat in this offense. Outside of Gonzo Roddy was the only one that stepped his game up enough to earn the second contract that he received and he would not have had the stats that he has had the last 5 years. The first year he broke 1000 yards we had Joe Horn and Jenks. Every other year it was Jenks, HD on and off, Finneran, Marty Booker. Of the 4 guys I just named HD is the only one that could have possibly emerged as a potential threat week in and week out but him and Ryan could never get back on the same page after his injury. I understand that fans get stuck on players because they have all these record breaking stats. That's fine. But as a fan, why wouldn't you want to AT LEAST think about possible scenarios that could play out to make this team better. We can still be a true contender in this league without Roddy. People saying Julio isn't ready to be a #1, well I find that quite funny. You don't need an offense full of pro bowlers to win in this league.The absence of Roddy could possibly lead to a true breakout season for HD. With a solid number 2 option, like a Santonio Holmes or Jason Avant(yes I believe that he is Phillys best WR) or someone else who just absolutely has a surprise season if they came here, the ball would get distributed to more than just 3 people. True Matt and Roddy have great chemistry. What makes you think it can't happen with anyone else. All I'm saying is, we as fans should think more about the possibilities of what we could do without him rather than just saying no everytime the media or another fan suggests we trade certain players away to make the team better. As I said in another thread, I don't really care what happens with him or anyone else. Mainly because I'm a huge fan of other players around the league that can contribute to this team just as good as him. You may now carry on with your day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I don't see it, even if Julio Jones becomes receiver #1 next year, Roddy White will be 1A. I understand Harry Douglas can be used more, but he is a solid # 2 that we just need to use more. We need to get ready for Gonzalez retirement and phase him out of the offense slowly.Which actually shows we need to pick up a TE as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm fine with us keeping Roddy and Ryan, but I'm also fine with us trading them if the hefty price is right. Just trying to keep myself open to both sides of the argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Which actually shows we need to pick up a TE as well.Orson Charles would be a great fit in our offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Resigning Abraham?? Lol, not likely. He's old, AND disappears under bright lights. "abundance of GREAT receivers" REALLY!? WHO?! We have Julio with great POTENTIAL...the decline is sharp after that, unless you're a "Kerry Meier can be as good as Jerry Rice" kinda guy. Sorry but in the NFL, a bird in the hand...Disappears under bright lights?? LOL. He constantly pressured Eli. Sacked him, the no call safety in the last saints game? Not to mention his groin injury since before the Packers game. The problem isn't that he disappears, it's that when teams double team him and chip him with a rb because they don't fear the other side. No one can handle Abe one on one. The giants have THREE pass rushers. If we had that Abe would easily have 15-18 sacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Roddy was the best WR because he benefited from not having another receiving threat in this offense. Outside of Gonzo Roddy was the only one that stepped his game up enough to earn the second contract that he received and he would not have had the stats that he has had the last 5 years. The first year he broke 1000 yards we had Joe Horn and Jenks. Every other year it was Jenks, HD on and off, Finneran, Marty Booker. Of the 4 guys I just named HD is the only one that could have possibly emerged as a potential threat week in and week out but him and Ryan could never get back on the same page after his injury.I understand that fans get stuck on players because they have all these record breaking stats. That's fine. But as a fan, why wouldn't you want to AT LEAST think about possible scenarios that could play out to make this team better. We can still be a true contender in this league without Roddy. People saying Julio isn't ready to be a #1, well I find that quite funny. You don't need an offense full of pro bowlers to win in this league.The absence of Roddy could possibly lead to a true breakout season for HD. With a solid number 2 option, like a Santonio Holmes or Jason Avant(yes I believe that he is Phillys best WR) or someone else who just absolutely has a surprise season if they came here, the ball would get distributed to more than just 3 people. True Matt and Roddy have great chemistry. What makes you think it can't happen with anyone else.All I'm saying is, we as fans should think more about the possibilities of what we could do without him rather than just saying no everytime the media or another fan suggests we trade certain players away to make the team better. As I said in another thread, I don't really care what happens with him or anyone else. Mainly because I'm a huge fan of other players around the league that can contribute to this team just as good as him. You may now carry on with your day No No NO!! I see the point you're trying to make but it's too soon. The Colts NEVER got rid of mannings #1 guy. Even after they won a SB. Marvin got old and NOBODY wanted him after that. Losing Roddy would be a decline because Harry has problems getting off press coverage. He's light in the @ss. Even with Reggie Wayne Harrison was still the most targeted wr in the league because, like Roddy, he was money on 3rd down. Favre had a #1 guy when he became a starter for GB. He grew with Freeman. When they took Freeman away Brett took a step back until they got Driver developed. Too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Nope....Don't want to do it.....Shouldn't have to trade Roddy to fix front office's apparent inability to build a decent O-line...Don't screw up one unit to fix another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 No No NO!! I see the point you're trying to make but it's too soon. The Colts NEVER got rid of mannings #1 guy. Even after they won a SB. Marvin got old and NOBODY wanted him after that. Losing Roddy would be a decline because Harry has problems getting off press coverage. He's light in the @ss. Even with Reggie Wayne Harrison was still the most targeted wr in the league because, like Roddy, he was money on 3rd down. Favre had a #1 guy when he became a starter for GB. He grew with Freeman. When they took Freeman away Brett took a step back until they got Driver developed. Too soon.I agree that this year is too soon. I predicted that it would happen after the 2012-13 season. BUT the one thing you have to look at right now is how valuable is he. How much can we actually get for him IF the opportunity presented itself. I don't have a great example for it but if someone like the Jets, Redskins, some other aggressive team were to make a offer that you can't refuse, you telling me as a GM or owner, you wouldn't at least consider it. Like I said I totally agree with you but it's a business, we just have to accept anything that happens, even if we don't like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 The time to trade Roddy for the picks we would want was 2 years ago, now he would be lucky to get us a 2nd and a 4th. I've never been a huge fan so I wouldn't mind parting with him but I don't think it is going to happen. Trading him away would barely help us at OL anyway and then we would be back to not having a legit 2nd WR, HD is a slot guy and we really don't know what we have after that on the depth chart because we never got to see any of the guys play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I agree that this year is too soon. I predicted that it would happen after the 2012-13 season. BUT the one thing you have to look at right now is how valuable is he. How much can we actually get for him IF the opportunity presented itself. I don't have a great example for it but if someone like the Jets, Redskins, some other aggressive team were to make a offer that you can't refuse, you telling me as a GM or owner, you wouldn't at least consider it. Like I said I totally agree with you but it's a business, we just have to accept anything that happens, even if we don't like itAs a business man you have to look at it but at the same time you don't want to break up that chemistry yet. I don't think the niners have the kind of success they had if they traded Rice for value. Or Denver with Rod Smith, Carolina with Steve Smith cause they know they have a problem brewing with he and Cams chemistry. Team chemistry goes a little further than value for one player sometimes. All the great teams do that. Even with Ray Lewis or Troy Polomoulu or Ed Reid. All value players but the front office knows the team would lose something with those players gone. I think Roddy is Matts Rice or Harrison right now and Julio isn't ready to be a #1 yet. If we got rid of him now then Julio would start seeing the kind of coverage Roddy used to see and HD isn't a threat like that. He's basically a faster Jenkins but at least Jenkins could beat press coverage. Harry can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Nope....Don't want to do it.....Shouldn't have to trade Roddy to fix front office's apparent inability to build a decent O-line...Don't screw up one unit to fix another.Check! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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