DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Who thinks Gonzo would have resigned after that disaster? If he didn't retire he'd probably sign somewhere else. Playcalling was terrible, no effort was made to get it to Gonzo to move the chains, OL was flat out embarassed. If I was him and hadnt yet resigned, I wouldnt resign until they got a new OC and 3 new OL better than our current LT, C and RG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pr0d1gy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yeah that stealth-signing of Gonzo really looks like a stroke of genius today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 7 mill, id forget real fast about yesterday either way. Id be shopping today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 doesnt matter he can still retire TD is a idiot cause chances are Finley is a FA and could have gotten him long termboy genius is dumb as rocks and has been exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 doesnt matter he can still retireTD is a idiot cause chances are Finley is a FA and could have gotten him long termboy genius is dumb as rocks and has been exposed"Chances are"? Why would the Packers let their most talented/2nd most talented receiver leave? You think the Packers are going to franchise Matt Flynn? What is salary for a franchise tagged QB? Why do you think Finley would want to leave GB and sign here? He's playing with the best QB on the best team.TD is responsible for: Ryan, Turner, Gonzalez, Jones, Blalock (resigning) Clabo (resigning), Peters, Lofton, Weatherspoon, Moore and many others. Players like Edwards and Robinson havent been success stories but they're not liabiities. His only failure I can think of is Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Smart and Dimitroff shouldn't ever be used in the same sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Smart and Dimitroff shouldn't ever be used in the same sentence.You're right he and Smith didn't turn this team into one that will consistently appear in the playoffs and is built for long term success. Things were much better under the regime that took Jamal Anderson over PATRICK WILLIS.The first thing TD did was get a franchise QB and protect him by getting a franchise RB in Turner, the 2 players most responsible for turning this franchise around.TD and Coach Smith are similiar in that they both have the courage to make the moves lesser men wouldn't out of fear for their jobs. Smith goes for it on 4th to win games and gets let down by a garbage OL. Even when you dont convert it can pay off (see our only points, a safety).TD made the trade to get Julio Jones when others wouldnt out of fear of getting fired if he turned out to be a bust. Jones demonstrated as a ROOKIE he is an NFL MISMATCH. Take a look at the production of his rookie season including missing games and playing through injury and take a look at Roddy Whites production in his first couple YEARS in the NFL. Julio Jones is an incredible talent who will never hit free agency and is only available at the top of the draft. When you are a team that has been built with a solid core and youre going to be consistently going to the playoffs, you're never going to be in position to hold a top draft pick and therefore never in position to grab a talent like Julio Jones. TD had the balls to make the trade and hit a home run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 "Chances are"? Why would the Packers let their most talented/2nd most talented receiver leave? Why do you think Finley would want to leave GB and sign here? He's playing with the best QB on the best team.Swifty isn't too swift today. Just because Finley is a FA doesn't mean he would sign here unless we threw an obscene amount of money at him. No thanks. Would rather keep Gonzo another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why would the Packers let Finley walk?Why would he want to leave GB?Why would he want to come here?Why would we spend on another TE when we have an OL that can't block enough for your QB to get an INCH on an sneak if you give them 2 tries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagne Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Long term for TE? TD is looking at Jimmy Graham. He's a young player and the Saints probably won't pay him what he's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFalcon Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Didn't Tony G make the Pro-bowl and Finley didn't?Finley did not have a good season. He had 2-3 good games this year and thats it.Tony G balled out all year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaGz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Nvm Edited January 9, 2012 by JaGz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceFalcon Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Long term for TE? TD is looking at Jimmy Graham. He's a young player and the Saints probably won't pay him what he's worth.I don't understand why you think the Saints would let one of their best, young assets who has the capability to turn into an annual All pro go? Especially to a division rival.The Saints pay their good players, look at their average money on their O-line, which is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I though the rumor out about Flynn now was that Cleveland were going to give up a 1st and 3rd for him. The picks they got in the Julio trade. Not sure how reliable that is but the channel I listen too was saying something about it.Isn't Flynn a UFA? If he is Cleveland doesn't have to give up nothing but a bunch of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Isn't Flynn a UFA? If he is Cleveland doesn't have to give up nothing but a bunch of cash.Some people think they will tag him instead of a player that actually makes sense like Finley. Im guessing they dont know how much money that costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 You're right he and Smith didn't turn this team into one that will consistently appear in the playoffs and is built for long term success. Things were much better under the regime that took Jamal Anderson over PATRICK WILLIS.The first thing TD did was get a franchise QB and protect him by getting a franchise RB in Turner, the 2 players most responsible for turning this franchise around.TD and Coach Smith are similiar in that they both have the courage to make the moves lesser men wouldn't out of fear for their jobs. Smith goes for it on 4th to win games and gets let down by a garbage OL. Even when you dont convert it can pay off (see our only points, a safety).TD made the trade to get Julio Jones when others wouldnt out of fear of getting fired if he turned out to be a bust. Jones demonstrated as a ROOKIE he is an NFL MISMATCH. Take a look at the production of his rookie season including missing games and playing through injury and take a look at Roddy Whites production in his first couple YEARS in the NFL. Julio Jones is an incredible talent who will never hit free agency and is only available at the top of the draft. When you are a team that has been built with a solid core and youre going to be consistently going to the playoffs, you're never going to be in position to hold a top draft pick and therefore never in position to grab a talent like Julio Jones. TD had the balls to make the trade and hit a home runMan, please, you need to think about keeping your eye on the big picture. Sure Thomas had some initial success, MR,Gonzo, Turner and more recently, Weatherspoon, but has been equally inffective recently, PJ, R. Edwards, and DRob. Throw in his most recent attemp to upgrade this team with the JJ trade, while ignorning the root problem, lack of talent in the trenches on both sides of the ball, so excuse while I'm not so impressed by the joke of an GM we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Why would the Packers let Finley walk?Why would he want to leave GB?Why would he want to come here?Why would we spend on another TE when we have an OL that can't block enough for your QB to get an INCH on an sneak if you give them 2 tries?Finley is only coming here in Swifty's demented mind or when he gets the GM job in Atlanta (BWAAAAHAAAAAA). I am sure Arthur Blank is already calling him now... LOL. Truth is Swifty and his other names he calls himself like Daddy's Home flat out sucks. He thinks he is smarter than all in the front office but he even sucks at being the GM of his Madden team (which is is only qualification to critique). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosmith67 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I love it when people on message boards question the job performance of guys like TD who have won multiple awards given by their peers for doing their jobs well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantownfalc2 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) "Chances are"? Why would the Packers let their most talented/2nd most talented receiver leave? You think the Packers are going to franchise Matt Flynn? What is salary for a franchise tagged QB? Why do you think Finley would want to leave GB and sign here? He's playing with the best QB on the best team.TD is responsible for: Ryan, Turner, Gonzalez, Jones, Blalock (resigning) Clabo (resigning), Peters, Lofton, Weatherspoon, Moore and many others. Players like Edwards and Robinson havent been success stories but they're not liabiities. His only failure I can think of is BakerPeria Jerry says hi, Dunta Robinson and Ray Edwards too. 5 picks for a WR was not a good move either. crisp owens in the 3rd. His entire 2009 draft was a failure with the exception of William Moore. He is supposed to be a college draft guru and his record is spotty at best.I love it when people on message boards question the job performance of guys like TD who have won multiple awards given by their peers for doing their jobs well.Who cares if he won a gm award years ago. I would much rather watch a playoff win than stare at his Gm of the year 2009 trophy next to the back to back winning season trophy Edited January 9, 2012 by beantownfalc2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Man, please, you need to think about keeping your eye on the big picture. Sure Thomas had some initial success, MR,Gonzo, Turner and more recently, Weatherspoon, but has been equally inffective recently, PJ, R. Edwards, and DRob. Throw in his most recent attemp to upgrade this team with the JJ trade, while ignorning the root problem, lack of talent in the trenches on both sides of the ball, so excuse while I'm not so impressed by the joke of an GM we have.The big picture is that TD has positioned this team for long term success by building a core of outstanding young talent through the draft. As I explained above we're not going to be in position to acquire a player like Jones because we're consistently going to be a playoff team. Thus the only way to get a talent like Jones was the trade. Did you not notice that as a ROOKIE he was the most talented player on our offense? I don't know what kind of career you think this kid is going to have but he's very special and will be one of the most productive players in the NFL in the near future.The OL must be upgraded but if you think we've got a bad GM it's like someone who says we need another QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vabchbirdlover Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I love it when people on message boards question the job performance of guys like TD who have won multiple awards given by their peers for doing their jobs well.Those individual awards have equated to what? I am most apprecitive for the best 4 yrs in Falcons history, but isn't it time to expect/want more? Bottom line this team is an embarrassment when playing quality teams or in the national spotlight. Spin it the way you will, but the fact remains 0-3 in games that truely matters. Edited January 9, 2012 by vabchbirdlover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBourneMurkedU Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Man, please, you need to think about keeping your eye on the big picture. Sure Thomas had some initial success, MR,Gonzo, Turner and more recently, Weatherspoon, but has been equally inffective recently, PJ, R. Edwards, and DRob. Throw in his most recent attemp to upgrade this team with the JJ trade, while ignorning the root problem, lack of talent in the trenches on both sides of the ball, so excuse while I'm not so impressed by the joke of an GM we have.Joke of a GM? LIke I said before say this to Bills, Browns, Dolphins, Rams, Chiefs, Raiders fans and they'll smack you in the **** face. Kids should not be allowed to post on forums. They are spoiled little punks who wouldn't know what hard work was if it hit them in the face. They expect everything to come easy like it's a video game. "I want it and I want it now!" The lot of you sound like that brat girl from Willy Wonka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Peria Jerry says hi, Dunta Robinson and Ray Edwards too. 5 picks for a WR was not a good move either. crisp owens in the 3rd. His entire 2009 draft was a failure with the exception of William Moore. He is supposed to be a college draft guru and his record is spotty at best.Who cares if he won a gm award years ago. I would much rather watch a playoff win than stare at his Gm of the year 2009 trophy next to the back to back winning season trophyJerry qualifies, Edwards and Robinson do not. Edwards was disappointing this season but was never expected to be an explosive pass rusher as he is not that physically and never has been. Robinson has not been putting up big interception numbers but is not a liability. Both Edwards and Robinson make this team better so it ultimately comes down to value or cap cost, which can ultimately be manipulated at will via signing bonus so what it really comes down to is how much you care aboutt how much money someone you arent paying is makingTD BustsBakerJerryTD DisappointmentsEdwardsRobinsonTD Home RunsRyanTurnerJonesGonzalezBlalock resignClabo resignPetersLoftonWeatherspoonMooreRyan, Jones, Lofton, Weatherspoon and Moore are all outstanding young talents who will be among the best at their positions in the very near future for years to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I love it when people on message boards question the job performance of guys like TD who have won multiple awards given by their peers for doing their jobs well. Maybe so but the whole Falcons organization isn't looking as smart as they were last year. Organizations, General Managers, Coaches, and Players in the NFL are judged ultimately on playoff wins and more so Championships . I like TD, Smitty and a bunch of the Falcons players including #2 but it doesn't mean there isn't others out there that could do better, hopefully there isn't anybody beyond that second look at their performance. Obviously this team/organization has came a long way since 2007,thats a plus but I imagine Blank is marking one division title and 3 playoffs no wins as a minus, rightfully so. Lets forget that as fans we all want them to succeed, make deep playoffs runs go to and win Super Bowls these guys get paid a tremendous amount of money i got no problem with Blank holding them accountable, or making changes. **** if was Blank I wouldn't say a word to any of them for a week and let them stew on this loss,I didn't think they would make it this year, but losing like that is inexcusable. Hope when they do meet it's uncomfortable as **** for TD on down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBirdDynasty Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Joke of a GM? LIke I said before say this to Bills, Browns, Dolphins, Rams, Chiefs, Raiders fans and they'll smack you in the **** face. Kids should not be allowed to post on forums. They are spoiled little punks who wouldn't know what hard work was if it hit them in the face. They expect everything to come easy like it's a video game. "I want it and I want it now!" The lot of you sound like that brat girl from Willy Wonka.As I said people seem to have no concept of what this roster looked like when TD inherited it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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