g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Haha the funniest thing of the day.But seriously, Clements is just as conservative as MM and Brat. We might as well just promote Brat if that's the case. Yes he is in GB, but like Peyton said, he isn't involved in the gameplanning I don't think. It's more McCarthy and Philbin.I'm not married to Clements - don't know much about him really - just trying to come up with some names to throw out.......would like to see this thread turn into many of you throwing out possible OC candidates - please feel free to do so.What do you guys think about the KC Chiefs guy that got fired - has ties to Patriots and was the OC for the 2008 Arizona Cards that went to SuperBowl - i know he is a fiery guy with an attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUB Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ridiculous that he has not been fired yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 ridiculous that he has not been fired yetI know, what is taking so long - he should have been fired in the lockerroom after the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 how many years has it been since FAT FRIEDGEN was the OC in San Diego? Its got to have been close to 20 years ago. The NFL has not exactly been knocking down Friedgen's door trying to get him to come back since he was fired from University of Maryland either.So you rather hire a guy who has never called a play in the NFL at all....ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 So you rather hire a guy who has never called a play in the NFL at all....ever?Mike Smith had never been head coach anywhere......EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Mike Smith had never been head coach anywhere......EVER.Being a head coach is a different skill set than calling plays.I'm just saying Clements is a very risky pick. In his one gig as an OC, the offense started off great, then went backwards. Very similiar to what the Falcons are doing.Friedgen has a 30 year track record of consistently getting the most out of his talent, and the Falcons have plenty of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Packers offensive system is not way it is cause of Tom . He is there QB coach . Give me a clip board I can have his job . You need a great QB to run a great system .You guide talented young Qbs into a system You have a avg QB that has flaws will look avg in system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm not married to Clements - don't know much about him really - just trying to come up with some names to throw out.......would like to see this thread turn into many of you throwing out possible OC candidates - please feel free to do so. I'd been trying to get one started for so long but constantly gets trolled by those married to MM. Hopefully this becomes that thread.What do you guys think about the KC Chiefs guy that got fired - has ties to Patriots and was the OC for the 2008 Arizona Cards that went to SuperBowl - i know he is a fiery guy with an attitude.Todd Haley. I actually like him and he would bring that attitude here but reports are that he is going back to Arizona.Yes Friedgen hasn't coached in the NFL in a long time, but he had no reason to come back. But since he got fired from Maryland (for no apparent reason, was 9-4 and ACC COTY) and lives here, he is a possibility. He wouldn't have to move and would inherit a wealth of talent. He has been good at every stop and gotten better and evolved with the game. That's the important part in my opinion. MM is stuck in the 80s. The Fridge has 21 years of experience as an OC (NFL and College). Give him a full offseason with these guys and I think he and Brat could turn this offense around and quick. Mere halftime adjustments would make this offense better lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Bring in any new OC you guys want but in 2-3 years down the road and Ryan still has not taken next step we just wasted 2-3 years of surrounding players prime years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Being a head coach is a different skill set than calling plays.I'm just saying Clements is a very risky pick. In his one gig as an OC, the offense started off great, then went backwards. Very similiar to what the Falcons are doing.Friedgen has a 30 year track record of consistently getting the most out of his talent, and the Falcons have plenty of talent.ohhhhhhhhh.....the Mike Smith thing is different. I get it. to look at Clements resume' and to say he's not qualified to call plays seems silly to me. The guy has tremendous NFL experience - the one time he was an OC you stated his head coach was Mike Mularkey and he made the calls - if so, why are you holding that against Clements?bottom-line, Clements knows tons of NFL plays and has the experience to be a successful NFL OC. He's seen how not to do it (under Mularkey) and how to do it at Green Bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Packers offensive system is not way it is cause of Tom . He is there QB coach . Give me a clip board I can have his job .You need a great QB to run a great system .You guide talented young Qbs into a systemYou have a avg QB that has flaws will look avg in systemIs Matt Cassel a great QB? I mean he sure stepped in to that system and looked like Brady. Is Flynn a great QB?Let's ask Curtis Painter then. Peyton Manning was that offensive coordinator. It was a good scheme for Peyton, because it was his scheme. So you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Todd Haley. I actually like him and he would bring that attitude here but reports are that he is going back to Arizona.Yes Friedgen hasn't coached in the NFL in a long time, but he had no reason to come back. But since he got fired from Maryland (for no apparent reason, was 9-4 and ACC COTY) and lives here, he is a possibility. He wouldn't have to move and would inherit a wealth of talent. He has been good at every stop and gotten better and evolved with the game. That's the important part in my opinion. MM is stuck in the 80s. The Fridge has 21 years of experience as an OC (NFL and College). Give him a full offseason with these guys and I think he and Brat could turn this offense around and quick. Mere halftime adjustments would make this offense better lolI think I would like Todd Haley as well - he's fiery guy and I'm sure would ruffle some feathers from time-to-time - Falcons need that - they are too "buttoned down" right now anyway.Falcons offense needs an aggressive MOFO.....let's get aggressive - if Matt Ryan cannot run an aggressive system, then his azz will be let go in two more years - but let's at least find out what Matt Ryan is capable of - I feel like I don't know right now because of Mularkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Is Matt Cassel a great QB? I mean he sure stepped in to that system and looked like Brady. Is Flynn a great QB?Let's ask Curtis Painter then. Peyton Manning was that offensive coordinator. It was a good scheme for Peyton, because it was his scheme. So you're wrong.you proved my point . Painter a avg QB couldnt run a Manning type offense cause he is not Peyton ManningCassel had 1 good season Matt Flynn had 1 good game in system.. that doesnt mean they have what it takes to win a Super Bowl why cause they are avg QBs and there flaws will be exposed over long haulMatt Ryan is a avg QB stick him in a new shinny ferrari doesnt make him above avg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clile32 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I agree that the OC needs to replace but Matt Ryan has problems with the deep ball and his accuracy is questionable. He never step-ups in the post season. I saw several receivers that was open down field, but he was afraid to pull the trigger. Matt Ryan is a little bit above average. He plays good during the regular season against teams that are barely above or below .500. We need a consistent offense in order to score on a consistent basis. That is the only way to compete against the elite teams like Patriots, Saints, and Green Bay. A good defense is not enough to stop a high powered offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons4life Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm talking about the OC position specifically. The Packers run a very sophisticated west coast offense - while they are not especially adept at running the ball - Packers are good at hitting receivers in stride on crossing routes and getting more YAC. Matt Ryan needs a different system. Also the Packers were not great at protecting passer yet the passing game still was dynamic.Look, I understand that Matt Ryan is not Aaron Rodgers and everything in Packers offense won't translate over to Falcons - but if 7% of it does, Falcons offense will be in better position than they are now.Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Mingus Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Mike Martz is our best bet. He turned Chicago around this year before Cutler got hurt.Clements doesn't call plays and was Mularkey's right hand man. Fridge is ancient as far as NFL experience. Todd Haley is going back to Arizona with his homie Whisenhunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipper Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't care if we got the OC from the local YMCA.... Just get rid of Mike Malarkey... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I wouldn't actually be opposed to Martz at all. He only does well with exceptional talent......but the Falcons have exceptional talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Martz doesnt care about oline . which could suit these scrubs but with that being said Ryan will not fit Martz scheme at allRyan needs a Bill Walsh WCO scheme .. but that is also out dated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Mingus Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I wouldn't actually be opposed to Martz at all. He only does well with exceptional talent......but the Falcons have exceptional talent.He did well in Detroit with Kitna at QB and Shaun McDonald at WR....... Went 7-9.... not his fault the D sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 you proved my point . Painter a avg QB couldnt run a Manning type offense cause he is not Peyton ManningCassel had 1 good seasonMatt Flynn had 1 good game in system.. that doesnt mean they have what it takes to win a Super Bowl why cause they are avg QBs and there flaws will be exposed over long haulMatt Ryan is a avg QB stick him in a new shinny ferrari doesnt make him above avgQuick! Name me any of Peyton Manning's OC's.You can't without googling it. Peyton was the OC and did his own thing. That's why they fell flat without him. Matt Flynn did that to the Lions defense and he beat the Patriots last time he played a whole game. Matt Cassel had a really good season and as soon as he left the system, he flopped. Kevin Kolb and Mike Vick in Philly. McNabb post-Philly. Great systems don't need great QBs. If you can get your WRs open on paper, all you need is a QB to get them the ball. We have that in Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I think Mularkey would do fine with Martz, because Martz believes in giving the playmakers a chance. There is no excuse for the Falcons not giving Julio a couple of chances yesterday to beat those smaller defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Quick! Name me any of Peyton Manning's OC's.Actually dude, everybody knows that Tom Moore has been Peyton's OC for his entire career.Or I know that anyway lol.I think it's pretty well known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niels petersen Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 you proved my point . Painter a avg QB couldnt run a Manning type offense cause he is not Peyton ManningCassel had 1 good seasonMatt Flynn had 1 good game in system.. that doesnt mean they have what it takes to win a Super Bowl why cause they are avg QBs and there flaws will be exposed over long haulMatt Ryan is a avg QB stick him in a new shinny ferrari doesnt make him above avgLol, no.. You just proved his point.Peyton Manning was that offense - everybody knows that. Painter cant even understand half of the things Manning does on the field. It was Manning in control the entire time.Cassel had his one good season in the system Vel is talking about. Since, he has bee average.Are you seriously arguing that Flynn's game was just a fluke? He might not put up those numbers again, but he is capable of doing half of that most of the time - and that would be great stats for any QB.. A backup QB goes in and breaks multiple team records, and he's not shown you anything? Come on man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I can rattle off just bout any cord in league outside what happen like in KC with Romeo dont know who there new DC is now probably still Romeo not trying to toot horn I watch other teams in NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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