g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't know Mike Mularkey's contract status with Falcons - some say his contract is up anyway - if so, it may not make headlines that we are not keeping him - surely to God we are not keeping Mularkey.Now we know its not just us fans frustrated with Mularkey - its the offensive players as well - as evidenced by Jason Cole/Yahoo Sports article.24 other NFL teams(including Falcons) seasons are over and everybody is tweaking their front offices and coaching staffs. Falcons need to let EVERYONE know that they have an opening for an offensive coordinator. Given Falcons weapons, the Falcons OC job should be a desired job in NFL circles - I would let Bob Bratkowski interview for the job but there should be other interviews. Given that Falcons cannot simply hire somebody else's OC, I'm not sure who is available.I would definitely be interested in the QB coach for Green Bay given the work that was done to make Aaron Rodgers the player he is today - Rodgers' game was re-made when he went to Green Bay - he was not a finished product. The name of the guy(GB QB-coach) escapes me right now - I will look it up - he at least deserves an interview. Who else should we be looking at guys? I want somebody who has better passing game resume' than Mike Mularkey for sure.The RUSH is on to tweak coaching staff......I don't care if it hurts Mike Mularkey's chances of getting a head coaching position or not by publicly parting ways with Mularkey - odds are, Mularkey is not getting a HC gig anyway after yesterday's debacle.Time to say good-bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Rodgers had raw talent . You can guide raw talent You cant teach a player who doesnt have talent to do what other player has talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Joined Packers Jan. 29, 2006.Possesses 19 years of coaching experience, including two seasons as an NFL offensive coordinator.Prior to Green Bay, spent 10 seasons coaching quarterbacks under some of the game’s most successful coaches, including Bill Cowher, Mike Ditka and Lou Holtz.Played 12 years in the Canadian Football League at quarterback and was a seven-time divisional all-star and two-time Grey Cup champion; was inducted into the CFL Hall of Fame in 1994.An All-American at Notre Dame in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting that year.Practiced law for five years before beginning coaching career.Tom Clements, entering his 19th season in the coaching profession, is in his sixth year as Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach.Now in his 15th overall NFL season, Clements was named to his position Jan. 29, 2006, by Head Coach Mike McCarthy. Familiar with the role, Clements also served as quarterbacks coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers (2001-03), Kansas City Chiefs (2000) and New Orleans Saints (1997-99).In Green Bay, Clements’ extensive tutelage of Aaron Rodgers has paid dividends, as Rodgers became the first QB in league history to throw for at least 4,000 yards in each of his first two seasons as a starter, and he narrowly missed a third straight 4,000-yard season in 2010 with 3,933 yards despite missing 1½ games due to a concussion. In 47 career regular-season starts, Rodgers has topped the 100 mark in passer rating 25 times, thrown for 300 yards or three touchdowns 14 times each, and posted 10 games with three TDs and no interceptions, the most in NFL history by a quarterback within three seasons of his first start.Rodgers became the first quarterback in franchise history to record a 100-plus passer rating in consecutive seasons, with a 101.2 passer rating in 2010. He had a career-best 65.7 completion percentage last season, finished third in the league in passer rating (101.2) and second in average gain (8.26), and added a trio of three-touchdown outings in the postseason, including one against Pittsburgh that earned him Super Bowl XLV MVP honors.Clements has also tutored backup QB Matt Flynn, a seventh-round choice of the Packers in 2008. Flynn started his first career game in 2010, opening in place of an injured Rodgers at New England in Week 15, and became the first Green Bay QB to throw three TD passes in his first career start since Anthony Dilweg posted the same number vs. the Los Angeles Rams on Sept. 9, 1990.In 2009, Rodgers’ 4,434 passing yards fell just 25 yards short of topping Lynn Dickey’s 1983 franchise record and ranked fourth in the league. He also ranked fourth in the NFL in TD passes (30) and passer rating (103.2), and first in interception percentage (1.29) in earning his first Pro Bowl bid. The passer rating sits second in franchise history to Bart Starr’s 105.0 mark in 1966.Rodgers’ first 4,000-yard season in 2008 gave the Packers 4,000-yard passers in consecutive seasons for just the second time in team history, and for the first time in league history those back-to-back 4,000-yard passers were different QBs.The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when he surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a then career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best at that point in leading the Packers back to the playoffs.Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, he helped Tommy Maddox earn the Comeback Player of the Year award from The Associated Press, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center.Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), a group that included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins.Prior to his post with the Saints, Clements served under Lou Holtz as quarterbacks coach (1992-94) and wide receivers/assistant head coach (1995) at his alma mater, Notre Dame. While with the Fighting Irish, Clements coached eventual 1993 NFL Rookie of the Year QB Rick Mirer, and WR Derrick Mayes, the Packers’ second-round draft pick in 1996. In addition, he tutored QB Ron Powlus, Notre Dame’s career passing leader in attempts, completions, yardage and touchdowns at the time of his graduation.Inducted into the Canadian Football League’s Hall of Fame in 1994, Clements played quarterback for Ottawa (1975-78), Saskatchewan/Hamilton (1979), Hamilton (1981-82) and Winnipeg (1983-87) during a 12-year career in the CFL. Selected seven times as a divisional All-Star, Clements guided two teams, Ottawa (1976) and Winnipeg (1984), to Grey Cup Championships, earning the Outstanding Offensive Player award in each game. The league’s Rookie of the Year in 1975 and Most Valuable Player in 1987, Clements completed 2,807 of 4,657 passes (60.3 percent) for 39,041 yards and 252 touchdowns during his CFL career.Clements also spent one season, 1980, as a quarterback for Marv Levy’s Kansas City Chiefs.A three-year starter at Notre Dame (1972-74) under Ara Parseghian, Clements led the Irish to a 29-5 record, including an unblemished national championship season in 1973. An All-American in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting when Archie Griffin earned the award. Clements received his degree in economics from Notre Dame in 1975.A licensed attorney, Clements worked from 1988-92 for Bell, Boyd & Lloyd, a Chicago-based law firm. He pursued his law degree during his CFL playing career, graduating magna *** laude from Notre Dame’s School of Law in 1986. In 1994, while on the Notre Dame coaching staff, Clements was an Adjunct Associate Professor of Law at the university’s law school, where he taught “Sports and the Law.”Clements was born in McKees Rocks, Pa. He and his wife, Kathe, live in Green Bay. The couple has two grown children: daughter, Stevie, and son, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I agree, fire him today and get Ralph Friedgen's office ready. Make sure he has a treadmill in there too, we need to keep him alive until we get that Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Wall Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Clements is his name and that's who we should go get. Maybe Carmichael from N.O. if Clements turns it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't think Tom Clements has ever called a single play int he NFL. In his one stint with the title "Offensive Coordinator", I think his boss was calling the plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I agree, fire him today and get Ralph Friedgen's office ready. Make sure he has a treadmill in there too, we need to keep him alive until we get that Super Bowl.Yeah, I think I might rather have Friedgen than Clements... at least Ralph has a good track record as an OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Rodgers had raw talent . You can guide raw talentYou cant teach a player who doesnt have talent to do what other player has talentI'm talking about the OC position specifically. The Packers run a very sophisticated west coast offense - while they are not especially adept at running the ball - Packers are good at hitting receivers in stride on crossing routes and getting more YAC. Matt Ryan needs a different system. Also the Packers were not great at protecting passer yet the passing game still was dynamic.Look, I understand that Matt Ryan is not Aaron Rodgers and everything in Packers offense won't translate over to Falcons - but if 70% of it does, Falcons offense will be in better position than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Rodgers had raw talent . You can guide raw talentYou cant teach a player who doesnt have talent to do what other player has talentBut when you have an offense with this kind of talent around you...By the way, just take a peep at Ryan's stats. He is a top 12 QB. That's more than good enough to score more than 0 points in a playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I don't think Tom Clements has ever called a single play int he NFL. In his one stint with the title "Offensive Coordinator", I think his boss was calling the plays.maybe you know more about him than me. I don't know - I'm quite certain Tom Clements knows the Green Bay Playbook - which is a good one. If he has had the OC position before at NFL level he has gotta be able to call plays - whether he actually did or not is another matter.I also know Clements deserves some share of credit for developing both Aaron Rodgers and certainly Matt Flynn as well. Rodgers was much higher rated than Flynn - one is a superstar and another is about to get paid in free agency. I believe Falcons would be better with Clements than Mularkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm talking about the OC position specifically. The Packers run a very sophisticated west coast offense - while they are not especially adept at running the ball - Packers are good at hitting receivers in stride on crossing routes and getting more YAC. Matt Ryan needs a different system. Also the Packers were not great at protecting passer yet the passing game still was dynamic.Look, I understand that Matt Ryan is not Aaron Rodgers and everything in Packers offense won't translate over to Falcons - but if 70% of it does, Falcons offense will be in better position than they are now.Two things:1. Tom Clements doesn't design or run Green Bay's offense.2. I don't think Tom Clements would take the Atlanta job replacing Mularkey. I think him and Mularkey are pretty tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadyman Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 How in the **** can Mularkey be a serious candidate for a HC position after yesterday? If he is then I will be shocked and if we keep him as OC I will projectile vomit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 maybe you know more about him than me. I know that this is the only person that has ever hired Tom Clements as an OC: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Another thing about Clements. If his contract isn't up, the Packers will just refuse to give the Falcons permission to talk to him.That being said, I don't know his contract status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I know that this is the only person that has ever hired Tom Clements as an OC:well that is scary no doubt. what I know is Clements has been with Packers for 6 seasons and Packers offense is nothing like anything Mularkey has ever run - perhaps you've noticed a slight difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 How in the **** can Mularkey be a serious candidate for a HC position after yesterday? If he is then I will be shocked and if we keep him as OC I will projectile vomit.I can't imagine he is a serious candidate anymore. I think you will see Mularkey's next gig is as somebody's position coach or in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Another thing about Clements. If his contract isn't up, the Packers will just refuse to give the Falcons permission to talk to him.That being said, I don't know his contract status.I believe the unwritten rule in NFL is that if the job offer is a promotion, then most teams allow the coach to interview for position.I doubt your scenario would happen if the Falcons were interviewing him for the higher prestige and paid position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDFalcon Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Joined Packers Jan. 29, 2006.Possesses 19 years of coaching experience, including two seasons as an NFL offensive coordinator.Prior to Green Bay, spent 10 seasons coaching quarterbacks under some of the game’s most successful coaches, including Bill Cowher, Mike Ditka and Lou Holtz.Played 12 years in the Canadian Football League at quarterback and was a seven-time divisional all-star and two-time Grey Cup champion; was inducted into the CFL Hall of Fame in 1994.An All-American at Notre Dame in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting that year.Practiced law for five years before beginning coaching career.Tom Clements, entering his 19th season in the coaching profession, is in his sixth year as Green Bay’s quarterbacks coach.Now in his 15th overall NFL season, Clements was named to his position Jan. 29, 2006, by Head Coach Mike McCarthy. Familiar with the role, Clements also served as quarterbacks coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers (2001-03), Kansas City Chiefs (2000) and New Orleans Saints (1997-99).In Green Bay, Clements’ extensive tutelage of Aaron Rodgers has paid dividends, as Rodgers became the first QB in league history to throw for at least 4,000 yards in each of his first two seasons as a starter, and he narrowly missed a third straight 4,000-yard season in 2010 with 3,933 yards despite missing 1½ games due to a concussion. In 47 career regular-season starts, Rodgers has topped the 100 mark in passer rating 25 times, thrown for 300 yards or three touchdowns 14 times each, and posted 10 games with three TDs and no interceptions, the most in NFL history by a quarterback within three seasons of his first start.Rodgers became the first quarterback in franchise history to record a 100-plus passer rating in consecutive seasons, with a 101.2 passer rating in 2010. He had a career-best 65.7 completion percentage last season, finished third in the league in passer rating (101.2) and second in average gain (8.26), and added a trio of three-touchdown outings in the postseason, including one against Pittsburgh that earned him Super Bowl XLV MVP honors.Clements has also tutored backup QB Matt Flynn, a seventh-round choice of the Packers in 2008. Flynn started his first career game in 2010, opening in place of an injured Rodgers at New England in Week 15, and became the first Green Bay QB to throw three TD passes in his first career start since Anthony Dilweg posted the same number vs. the Los Angeles Rams on Sept. 9, 1990.In 2009, Rodgers’ 4,434 passing yards fell just 25 yards short of topping Lynn Dickey’s 1983 franchise record and ranked fourth in the league. He also ranked fourth in the NFL in TD passes (30) and passer rating (103.2), and first in interception percentage (1.29) in earning his first Pro Bowl bid. The passer rating sits second in franchise history to Bart Starr’s 105.0 mark in 1966.Rodgers’ first 4,000-yard season in 2008 gave the Packers 4,000-yard passers in consecutive seasons for just the second time in team history, and for the first time in league history those back-to-back 4,000-yard passers were different QBs.The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when he surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a then career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best at that point in leading the Packers back to the playoffs.Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, he helped Tommy Maddox earn the Comeback Player of the Year award from The Associated Press, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center.Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), a group that included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins.Prior to his post with the Saints, Clements served under Lou Holtz as quarterbacks coach (1992-94) and wide receivers/assistant head coach (1995) at his alma mater, Notre Dame. While with the Fighting Irish, Clements coached eventual 1993 NFL Rookie of the Year QB Rick Mirer, and WR Derrick Mayes, the Packers’ second-round draft pick in 1996. In addition, he tutored QB Ron Powlus, Notre Dame’s career passing leader in attempts, completions, yardage and touchdowns at the time of his graduation.Inducted into the Canadian Football League’s Hall of Fame in 1994, Clements played quarterback for Ottawa (1975-78), Saskatchewan/Hamilton (1979), Hamilton (1981-82) and Winnipeg (1983-87) during a 12-year career in the CFL. Selected seven times as a divisional All-Star, Clements guided two teams, Ottawa (1976) and Winnipeg (1984), to Grey Cup Championships, earning the Outstanding Offensive Player award in each game. The league’s Rookie of the Year in 1975 and Most Valuable Player in 1987, Clements completed 2,807 of 4,657 passes (60.3 percent) for 39,041 yards and 252 touchdowns during his CFL career.Clements also spent one season, 1980, as a quarterback for Marv Levy’s Kansas City Chiefs.A three-year starter at Notre Dame (1972-74) under Ara Parseghian, Clements led the Irish to a 29-5 record, including an unblemished national championship season in 1973. An All-American in 1974, he finished fourth in Heisman Trophy balloting when Archie Griffin earned the award. Clements received his degree in economics from Notre Dame in 1975.A licensed attorney, Clements worked from 1988-92 for Bell, Boyd & Lloyd, a Chicago-based law firm. He pursued his law degree during his CFL playing career, graduating magna *** laude from Notre Dame’s School of Law in 1986. In 1994, while on the Notre Dame coaching staff, Clements was an Adjunct Associate Professor of Law at the university’s law school, where he taught “Sports and the Law.”Clements was born in McKees Rocks, Pa. He and his wife, Kathe, live in Green Bay. The couple has two grown children: daughter, Stevie, and son, Tom.I know you all are too much into hiring Tom Clements. You know the only coach to give him OC Position so far is Mularkey. I am kind of scared of anybody associated with mularkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I can't imagine he is a serious candidate anymore. I think you will see Mularkey's next gig is as somebody's position coach or in college.I can see Mularkey being head coach for an arena league team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I believe the unwritten rule in NFL is that if the job offer is a promotion, then most teams allow the coach to interview for position.I doubt your scenario would happen if the Falcons were interviewing him for the higher prestige and paid position.The Packers don't believe in that unwritten rule. The refused permission to the Bears in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Roland Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Let's see.... cell phone, keys, hmmm did I close the garage door?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 well that is scary no doubt. what I know is Clements has been with Packers for 6 seasons and Packers offense is nothing like anything Mularkey has ever run - perhaps you've noticed a slight difference?Sure I have. I think projecting the impact as a QB coach to impact as a coordinator is a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 I know you all are too much into hiring Tom Clements. You know the only coach to give him OC Position so far is Mularkey. I am kind of scared of anybody associated with mularkeyif Tom Clements was married to Mike Mularkey's system, do you honestly think he would be the QB coach for the Green Bay Packers?You guys are just being ridiculous about this.........I mean really....guy has been with Packers for SIX SEASONS and developed two QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I can see Mularkey being head coach for an arena league team. Haha the funniest thing of the day.But seriously, Clements is just as conservative as MM and Brat. We might as well just promote Brat if that's the case. Yes he is in GB, but like Peyton said, he isn't involved in the gameplanning I don't think. It's more McCarthy and Philbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Sure I have. I think projecting the impact as a QB coach to impact as a coordinator is a mistake.how many years has it been since FAT FRIEDGEN was the OC in San Diego? Its got to have been close to 20 years ago. The NFL has not exactly been knocking down Friedgen's door trying to get him to come back since he was fired from University of Maryland either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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