Francis York Morgan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I still contend that he typically puts us in a position to win games. Has he had duds? Of course. I still hate how we let of the gas. But I feel like a lot of that is more related to Smitty than anything...If it isn't Smitty, we have a problem, sure.But BVG was NOT the reason we lost today, and I can easily argue that the 6 losses we had in the regular season weren't his fault either, with the possible exception of the second Saints game.Held the Packers to 25Honestly didn't do bad against the Bears at full strength, offense chokedHeld the Saints to 23Held the Bucs to 16Held the Texans to 17Really. This guy is NOT the problem. He calls effective gameplans for the most part.Replace Mularkey with Al Borges, or at least someone competent.There are few people I'd take at DC over BVG, those two being Spags and Crennel...that said, we have bigger issues that I wish we'd tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Mojo-Risin} Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Still can't get over seeing Biermann on Colston by scheme.Something has to change. If we're going to have a ball control offense, then we need a stingy defense. If we're moving away from ball control, then the bend but don't break can be fine. As of now, the 2 schemes don't go together when we want to beat the good teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilFuturesTrader19 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Defense is fine. Offense needs to be fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiruz Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 defense sucks, you have beer goggles on or are insane.They were shredded when the giants made adjustments in the second half. Sorry I meant raped, humiliated, and left to bleed in a corner like a little girl. I don't know what games you have been watching.BVG is a high school C-team caliber coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 defense sucks, you have beer goggles on or are insane.They were shredded when the giants made adjustments in the second half. Sorry I meant raped, humiliated, and left to bleed in a corner like a little girl. I don't know what games you have been watching.BVG is a high school C-team caliber coach.I'd like to see how well you can coach a D when the Offense puts up no points. Not to mention, they still only wound up with 24. With all the talent we have on O, we should be able to outdo that.Agree with Mojo btw, I think we need to move away from the conservative offense though, so this ties in directly. We do not have the type of team that is built to play conservative with MM's BS. We have a garbage OL, a very one-dimensional starting HB, and three explosive receivers - not to mention, many more that are underutilized imho.It's criminal what is being done to this offense. SOOO much potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons84 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 but if our offense didnt get so many 3 and outs then giants would have even less points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconJim Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Yep, I think BVG did a good job this year, with what he had to work with. But, we need a few more pieces (and need to get rid of a few) in order to make our D even better. I mean, when you hold the elite teams to 17 - 25 points, that should keep you in the game, providing you have an OC who can get the most out of a very talented offense (excluding our O-line, of course.....but that's a whole 'nother story)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I liked your post even though I don't know if I agree with the conclusion that we shouldn't get rid of BVG - at least you make a sound argument.We seem to be pretty inconsistent on defence - it usually falls apart when the offense finally gets going. I'm trying to figure out if there is a logical explanation for this (e.g. the other team plays less conservatively, and we suck at defending deep plays, or maybe that all teams are either good on offense OR defense), but I do find our D-Line play and inability to defend 3rd & long rather frustrating.Don't think the defence can be held accountable yesterday. Disappointing that their running game was effective, but I'm sure 32nd in the league must be something of misnoma - Bradshaw and Jacobs are a pretty good pair, perhaps we underprepared for them. I know that due to our inept offence we didn't exactly force Manning into pulling much out the bag, but 7 points in the first half and three TDs overall is not a big deal. Giants defense has had big holes all season, we should have been able to score in the 20s against them.We certainly should have been able to score more than 2 points. When I think about that miserly score it almost makes me laugh it's so bad (perhaps a case of "you have to laugh, else you'll cry")! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 defense sucks, you have beer goggles on or are insane.They were shredded when the giants made adjustments in the second half. Sorry I meant raped, humiliated, and left to bleed in a corner like a little girl. I don't know what games you have been watching.BVG is a high school C-team caliber coach.this ....how anybody can say differently is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 BVG is awesome when smith doesn't force him to run that soft cover **** and let's him blitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) defense sucks, you have beer goggles on or are insane.They were shredded when the giants made adjustments in the second half. Sorry I meant raped, humiliated, and left to bleed in a corner like a little girl. I don't know what games you have been watching.BVG is a high school C-team caliber coach.Bingo!!The guy sucks. Heck, even Georgia Southern told him to get lost because they saw real quick he sucked. Bottom line, the guy is an idiot who can't figure out how to stop 3rd and long.Dang right, I hope his butt gets fired this week (along with Dullarkey). And don't shed any tears for that moron. There's another moron somewhere stupid enough to hire him and pay him a bunch of money to swirl their team down the toilet. Edited January 9, 2012 by Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconut-1991 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Don't be fooled. His defense isn't that good. He gets out coached too many times. This defense doesn't scare anybody. Don't you want this team to have a great defense or are you satisfied with a mediocre defense. Because that's what he's given us.I'm tired of sticking with mediocrity. Out with both the OC and DC. I'm tired of seeing them being out coached. After 4 years, this is unexceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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