Yahoo Sports: Were Saints Right To Run Up Score For Brees’ Record?

[Peyton]

Really? Pulled most of our starters at the end of the 3rd qtr, thereby eliminating the possible injury to key players in a game already decided on the scorebord. NO, on the other hand had a sizable lead at the the end of the 3rd qtr and kept pouring it on, why? For a indivuial award for Mole Boy. Personally, don't mind the record breaking part, and as others have said, if you don't like it - Stop it. Would have been real sad had Breejesus suffered a serious injury in the 4th qtr, all in the chase of an indiviual award. Just sayin

Yeah, your characterization of the game is just way off.

The Falcons had the ball with 11:00 left down 31-16. The Falcons were still clearly in the game. If they would have scored, it would have been a one score game.

But they didn't score, instead Julio fumbled and the Saints picked it up and ran the ball in.

The last score happened because the Falcons went for it on their own 33 and didn't get it with over 5 minutes left in the game. If they would have punted, then Brees would have set the record without scoring, and there wouldn't be any talk of the Saints running up the score at all.

All the way around, it's the Falcons fault if the Saints "ran up the score".

[vabchbirdlover]

Sizable lead? Really? At New Orleans' first possession in the 4th qtr the score was 31-16.

Who was thinking the Falcons were already out of it at that point? The Falcons then forced the Saints into 2 straight 3-and-outs where Brees got zero passing yards.

It was only on the Saints third and final possession that Brees clicked on 3 plays to get the final 30 yards he needed for the record.

If Brees hadn't gotten the record against Atlanta, he would have faced the same 'risk' of injury vs Carolina, wouldn't he? Unless you're thinking he should be benched in the finale and forgo a shot at the record. Get real.

The score at the end of the 3rd qtr was 31-13, and had you watched the performance of the Falcons defense to that point, even you could have surmized that it was game, set, match. Don't have any problem with him going for the record, the Falcons defense was ripe for the taking, but if I was a Saint fan, I would have been pretty pizzed for him to get hurt in a game already decided, thereby hindering their chances for a deep run in the playoffs.

[Jagdawg]

The score at the end of the 3rd qtr was 31-13, and had you watched the performance of the Falcons defense to that point, even you could have surmized that it was game, set, match.

LOL... yet up 35 on the Jaguars late in the third, the game was still in doubt???? Pretty funny stuff. If you are so concerned about injuries, were you complaining that Ryan was still risking injury in "a game

already decided, thereby hindering their chances for a deep run in the playoffs"?

Edited December 28, 2011 by Jagdawg

[metrymudbug]

The score at the end of the 3rd qtr was 31-13, and had you watched the performance of the Falcons defense to that point, even you could have surmized that it was game, set, match. Don't have any problem with him going for the record, the Falcons defense was ripe for the taking, but if I was a Saint fan, I would have been pretty pizzed for him to get hurt in a game already decided, thereby hindering their chances for a deep run in the playoffs.

I know you're not saying that with nearly 13 minutes left and a 31-16 lead Brees should have been taken out, are you?

Though you belittle your defense, it rose up and stoned us on the first 2 possessions in the 4th quarter.

Again, to push getting the record to next week would still have 'exposed' Brees to injury. Why not just get it over with on MNF?

[vabchbirdlover]

I know you're not saying that with nearly 13 minutes left and a 31-16 lead Brees should have been taken out, are you?

Though you belittle your defense, it rose up and stoned us on the first 2 possessions in the 4th quarter.

Again, to push getting the record to next week would still have 'exposed' Brees to injury. Why not just get it over with on MNF?

Serious question - Which is more important, an indivuial record or a chance to go far in the playoffs?

[Jagdawg]

Serious question - Which is more important, meaningless passing yards for Ryan or a chance to go far in the playoffs?

[metrymudbug]

Serious question - Which is more important, an indivuial record or a chance to go far in the playoffs?

Seriously, to get the final 30 yards, Brees was going to have to play in a regular season game at some point.

If not Monday night, then he'd have to get it against Carolina. In either case, his exposure to injury is the same.

What don't you understand about that? Unless, as I said earlier, you are implying that to protect Brees, Payton should have pulled him in the 4th qtr and then benched him next week and forgone the record entirely.

It sounds like you are really upset that the Saints scored on that play.

The final TD was meaningless, it just so happened that the final drive started only 33 yards from the endzone.

Otherwise, had he gotten the record without a TD, Payton probably would have settled for a FG or gone to a running play.

Edited December 28, 2011 by metrymudbug

[isproab]

Does not matter, if you didn't like it, you should have done something about it. I'm hearing that the Falcons were ticked off about it. OK, well we will see if there is any validity to that. Falcons may end up back in New Orleans against the Saints in two weeks. Remember it, do something about it.

I've said it for year, we have too many choir boys on this team. Nobody with attitude that plays with a mean streak. I don't need every player to be the stand up guy that you want to trot out in front of the media, date your daughter and send to the children's hospital. I need 2 or 3 guys on D that are going to kick a man when he is down "Suh Style" and two or three on the offensive side.

The "Suh" kick may have been dirty and uncalled for in the situation (after the play), but u need that intensity and disposition between the whistles.

[freebird310]

What a fricking BS thread, some of our fans whining is just incredible, suck it up and take it like a man for crying out loud...........

[Rickey]

The Saints did exactly what you are supposed to do, KICK ASSSS and take names. The Falcons are so soft and have no killer instinct. Mike Smith is a wuss. If they don't wake up after getting embarrassed on national tv and by a division rival, phuck em.

[vabchbirdlover]

Seriously, to get the final 30 yards, Brees was going to have to play in a regular season game at some point.

If not Monday night, then he'd have to get it against Carolina. In either case, his exposure to injury is the same.

What don't you understand about that? Unless, as I said earlier, you are implying that to protect Brees, Payton should have pulled him in the 4thqtr and then benched him next week and forgone the record entirely.

It sounds like you are really upset that the Saints scored on that play.

The final TD was meaningless, it just so happened that the final drive started only 33 yards from the endzone.

Otherwise, had he gotten the record without a TD, Payton probably would have settled for a FG.

Not saying that at all, it was a foregone conclusion that he would have broken the record, be it Mon night or against the Panties. Just sayin why while leading 31-13 at the end of the 3rd qtr, do you risk injury to your Pro bowl QB for the sake of an indivuial record? Is this just too hard of a concept to grasp? Bottom line you guys are in the playoffs and I just could imagine your reaction and those of your fellow fans had he been hurt trying to breaking Marino's record. No, I'm not upset about anything Brees and co did scoring wise, Falcon's D just weren't up to the task.

[Jagdawg]

Not saying that at all, it was a foregone conclusion that he would have broken the record, be it Mon night or against the Panties. Just sayin why while leading 31-13 at the end of the 3rd qtr, do you risk injury to your Pro bowl QB for the sake of an indivuial record? Is this just too hard of a concept to grasp? Bottom line you guys are in the playoffs and I just could imagine your reaction and those of your fellow fans had he been hurt trying to breaking Marino's record. No, I'm not upset about anything Brees and co did scoring wise, Falcon's D just weren't up to the task.

And when the question is turned back on you you ignore it. I think there is a word for people who do things like that.

[eezeekial]

Not sure if this was brought up or not earlier

Dec 7 1969 Falcons 45 Saints 17

Oct 24 1971 Falcons ahead 21-6 in the last minute of 4th quarter make it 28-6

SEP 16 1973 FALCONS 62 SAINTS 7 17 Falcon points in 4th quarter

Dec 18th 1977 ATL 35 NO 7. 4th quarter passing TD by Bartkowski

Oct 19 1980 Atlanta 41 NO 14 Atlanta 4th quarter TD

Sep 6 1981 Atlanta 27 NO 0. Ahead 21 to nothing in the 4th Bartkowski throws a 25 yard bomb for a TD to make it 27-0 ATLANTA TRIES A PASS FOR A CONVERSION THAT FAILS

Nov 1 1981 ATL 41 NO 10 Leading 34-10 in the 4th Bartkowski throws a 49 yard dagron

Dec 12 1982 Atl 35 NO 0 Atlanta throws a 27 yard TD in the 4^th

[Tandy]

Serious question - Which is more important, meaningless passing yards for Ryan or a chance to go far in the playoffs?

While I don't have a problem with what Brees did - your comparison is not even close.

Ryan threw the last touchdown on a drive that started with 11:47 seconds left in the 3RD quarter - not with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

He then went out for one more drive - they ran twice and he threw a short ball. Then Redman went in - that was still in the 3rd quarter.

There is no comparison - but if you think there is no difference between wondering if a team that scored 41 points the week before (Jaguars) could possibly come back in the year of come-backs with a Quarter and 2/3 left in the game and wondering if a team down by 22 points with less than 2 minutes left can come back - well, I just don't know what to say.

Leave it at this. They did it and we didn't stop it. Plain and simple. I've no problem with that. But, to compare the 1st drive of the 3rd quarter with the last drive of the 4th quarter - well?!

By the way - the only reason I said we may not have done it is because I've watched us kneel at the 1 yard line several times after the scoring was out of hand.

[Tandy]

Not sure if this was brought up or not earlier

Dec 7 1969 Falcons 45 Saints 17

Oct 24 1971 Falcons ahead 21-6 in the last minute of 4th quarter make it 28-6

SEP 16 1973 FALCONS 62 SAINTS 7 17 Falcon points in 4th quarter

Dec 18th 1977 ATL 35 NO 7. 4th quarter passing TD by Bartkowski

Oct 19 1980 Atlanta 41 NO 14 Atlanta 4th quarter TD

Sep 6 1981 Atlanta 27 NO 0. Ahead 21 to nothing in the 4th Bartkowski throws a 25 yard bomb for a TD to make it 27-0 ATLANTA TRIES A PASS FOR A CONVERSION THAT FAILS

Nov 1 1981 ATL 41 NO 10 Leading 34-10 in the 4th Bartkowski throws a 49 yard dagron

Dec 12 1982 Atl 35 NO 0 Atlanta throws a 27 yard TD in the 4^th

All well before this regime - and well before your regime. No one said that the Falcons have never done this in their history.

Why are you guys so defensive? ****, you drove it - we didn't stop it. Big deal.

[metrymudbug]

Not saying that at all, it was a foregone conclusion that he would have broken the record, be it Mon night or against the Panties. Just sayin why while leading 31-13 at the end of the 3rd qtr, do you risk injury to your Pro bowl QB for the sake of an indivuial record? Is this just too hard of a concept to grasp? Bottom line you guys are in the playoffs and I just could imagine your reaction and those of your fellow fans had he been hurt trying to breaking Marino's record. No, I'm not upset about anything Brees and co did scoring wise, Falcon's D just weren't up to the task.

How do you not 'risk injury' without putting Brees in the game whether against Atlanta or Carolina?

You're the one who keeps bringing the score into the picture. This had nothing to do with the score.

In the 4th qtr, the Saints had 3 possessions for Payton to give Brees the opportunity to break the record.

If Brees had done it on the first possession, he likely would have been pulled. As it was, the first 2 series saw the Saints go 3-and-out.

The final possession was the last chance and, fortunately, Brees had just enough field position to get it.

What does it matter that he got it Monday or Sunday? He'd still need to be on the field in either case where he just might get injured.

Edited December 28, 2011 by metrymudbug

[eezeekial]

All well before this regime - and well before your regime. No one said that the Falcons have never done this in their history.

Why are you guys so defensive? ****, you drove it - we didn't stop it. Big deal.

Honestly, its not the Falcons fans that the Saints fans have a problem with. It was the aftermath with a couple of the Falcons players and sports journalists. I was just simply showing a point that its not like this hasnt happened in the past the other way around. After seeing a record like this get broken, no Saints fan wants to hear about it being classless- especially when its someone like Brees that this happens to. Regardless after getting on this forum, I am more than surprised by most of the Falcons fans and their reaction to it. Classy imo.

[Tandy]

Honestly, its not the Falcons fans that the Saints fans have a problem with. It was the aftermath with a couple of the Falcons players and sports journalists. I was just simply showing a point that its not like this hasnt happened in the past the other way around. After seeing a record like this get broken, no Saints fan wants to hear about it being classless- especially when its someone like Brees that this happens to. Regardless after getting on this forum, I am more than surprised by most of the Falcons fans and their reaction to it. Classy imo.

The Falcon players had their pride hurt - never trust a post game statement from a player on the losing team. They are mad and emotional - mostly at themselves.

As for the media - well, you know how that is. They like to stir the pot.

Be happy for your QB - he did a pretty amazing thing this year. Odd thing though, is that it might be like when baseball did it. Years of nothing and then multiple players in one year. It's possible Rodgers does it this year as well.

Wierd how that works.

[Hashbrown3]

While I don't have a problem with what Brees did - your comparison is not even close.

Ryan threw the last touchdown on a drive that started with 11:47 seconds left in the 3RD quarter - not with 2 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

He then went out for one more drive - they ran twice and he threw a short ball. Then Redman went in - that was still in the 3rd quarter.

There is no comparison - but if you think there is no difference between wondering if a team that scored 41 points the week before (Jaguars) could possibly come back in the year of come-backs with a Quarter and 2/3 left in the game and wondering if a team down by 22 points with less than 2 minutes left can come back - well, I just don't know what to say.

Leave it at this. They did it and we didn't stop it. Plain and simple. I've no problem with that. But, to compare the 1st drive of the 3rd quarter with the last drive of the 4th quarter - well?!

By the way - the only reason I said we may not have done it is because I've watched us kneel at the 1 yard line several times after the scoring was out of hand.

Thanks for taking the time to explain this REALITY to the Jag fan Tandy. I did not have the patience. Have a clue Jag man and reread Tandy's comments again so it sinks in. There is a HUGE difference. I too blame the falcons for not stopping brees... nuff said.

[Jagdawg]

Thanks for taking the time to explain this REALITY to the Jag fan Tandy. I did not have the patience. Have a clue Jag man and reread Tandy's comments again so it sinks in. There is a HUGE difference. I too blame the falcons for not stopping brees... nuff said.

Fair enough, although if you believe the Jags had a chance of putting up 35 points on the falcons in less than two quarters, I don't know what to say either.

But, I'll let it go.

[just dave]