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Also putting Ryan in top tier of qbs is not that far of a stretch

Considering is has been near the top of the nfc in Tds since 2009

and is right there in top 5 again, he also is there in yards, and after a rough start has a respectable td to int ratio. in fact only 4 other guys in the conference has a better then 2:1 Td to int ratio ( Brees, Rogers, Romo, and Stafford), his % of first down throws are again bested by only 4 guys in conference.

So in pretty much EVERY offensive category he is top 3-5 in the NFC with the exception of just a few and the ones he is not he is within striking distance.

Ryan has been FAR FAR FAR better then you rivals have given him credit for.

now before i start, THIS IS THE NFL not the NFC so its kind of ridiculous to go through this but i will

this is just NFC

hes #7 in yards

#5 in tds

2010

4th in yards

3rd in tds

2009

11th in yards

8th in tds

2008

6th in yards

8th in tds

i do NOT see elite

i do NOT see top tier

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now before i start, THIS IS THE NFL not the NFC so its kind of ridiculous to go through this but i will

this is just NFC

hes #7 in yards

#5 in tds

2010

4th in yards

3rd in tds

2009

11th in yards

8th in tds

2008

6th in yards

8th in tds

i do NOT see elite

i do NOT see top tier

So being being in the top 5 is not top teir??

So if a qb has a season of say 28 tds to 11 tds would that be top tier?

How about 28 tds and 18 ints?

How about 34 tds and 17 ints?

Would those be top teir? ( Ryan is close to ALL of those numbers btw)

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"Maybe we should just scrap the deep ball, y'know? :/"

Did you see us get any timing right on very many deep balls? No. Dude had a point (even if i disagreed) even if he was using a hyperbole (probably not wise when talking to the media)

Since he's said that Ryan has gotten an average of 128.9 qb rating in the 2 games since. 7 tds 0 picks 8.5 ypa. Maybe he pushed Ryan to perform better too?

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So being being in the top 5 is not top teir??

So if a qb has a season of say 28 tds to 11 tds would that be top tier?

How about 28 tds and 18 ints?

How about 34 tds and 17 ints?

Would those be top teir? ( Ryan is close to ALL of those numbers btw)

28 and 9 last year. Jus sayin.

9th in the NFL in yards TDs 6th.

has a top INT% and top 10 td/int ratio

Dude is good.

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So being being in the top 5 is not top teir??

So if a qb has a season of say 28 tds to 11 tds would that be top tier?

How about 28 tds and 18 ints?

How about 34 tds and 17 ints?

Would those be top teir? ( Ryan is close to ALL of those numbers btw)

dude that was among the NFC not the NFL!

the best he ever did in the NFC is 3rd in those two stats

no thats not top tier

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Btw I wont even wait for your answer the numbers I asked about were Brees's first few season in NO.

If you are going ot say Ryan is not top Tier you have to say Brees was not top Tier.............. as the numbers saver yardage were nearly spot on similar.

If you compare Brees first 2 years in NO to Ryans last 2 years here (Brees had 5 years expereince when he went to NO Ryans in his 4th year)

Brees comp% obviously higher due to the offensive system.

Brees tds 28+26=54

Ryan 28+26=54 with 2 games to go.

Brees yards though. 8841

Ryan 7403. Probably 1k less at the end of the year.

INTs Brees 29 Ryan 21

Probably 22-23 at end of the year.

YPA Brees 7.3

Ryan 6.9

QB rating Brees 92.5

Ryan 91

Pointless but it's interesting to see side by side.

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So being being in the top 5 is not top teir??

So if a qb has a season of say 28 tds to 11 tds would that be top tier?

How about 28 tds and 18 ints?

How about 34 tds and 17 ints?

Would those be top teir? ( Ryan is close to ALL of those numbers btw)

2006

#1 in both yards and tds

2007

#1 in yards #2 in tds

2008

#1 in both AGAIN

2009

#3 in yards #1 in tds

2010

HOLY **** #1 again in both

2011

#1 in yards and PROBALY #2 in tds

this is top tier

ryan not so much

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