MadCruzer 31 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Sometimes I think Ryan is better in clutch then not. He seems to have more focus. His throws are more accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Teen Wolf 116 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 So is the premise of this thread that if a penalty is called on the defense during a drive, or if there's a missed call or we benefit from a mistake the other team made, it is therefore a "blemished" drive and not impressive? WTF?Yeah, I think we should just decline all penalties called on the defense. Let's win these games clean or not at all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller2Rison 3,359 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 last year against the 49ers he lead us a great game winning drive after throwing an int ooo also against the bucs this year roddy dropped a game winning td Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Miller2Rison 3,359 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 can't forget about that great game in 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I must say this thread is a bit of a reach. Matty Melt has had some great games. Not many but he has done it before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconFanForLife 2,097 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I really do like Ryan. I have quite a few of his jerseys for what that is worth. I am just saying this is one aspect of his game he needs to work on. I have no doubt he will get there, but I am frustrated by some of the blind loyalty i see on this boardIt's not blind loyalty when you love a guy who WINS games which is ALL that matters. Is he perfect? NoCan he improve? YesDoes he win games? Yes'But you lose a lot of credibility when you call it "blind loyalty." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mary Jones 38 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 I must say this thread is a bit of a reach. Matty Melt has had some great games. Not many but he has done it before.****. I really do feel like an a-hole now if this guy is telling me to back off. Admittedly, the timing of this thread was terrible, and for that I apologize. I also apologize for the overall sentiment of the thread. It came off as bashing Ryan, but really it was me trying to say he needs to be more consistent in the clutch. Certain guys in this league you KNOW will close out the game if they get the chance, and Im not sure hes there yet. But the fact that hes only in his fourth year isnt lost on me. And for what its worth, I thought of a great game that fit this description, 09 at Giants, which I am embarrased to say now I was at. Again, I apologize Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BankerBird™ 5 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I would think that, by definition, a game-winning drive is "unblemished". What's up with all these esoteric questions today? (e.g. "Can we put up 60 points against the Colts?") Who cares how we get the win as long as we get the win?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarterback 4,244 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I would think that, by definition, a game-winning drive is "unblemished". What's up with all these esoteric questions today? (e.g. "Can we put up 60 points against the Colts?") Who cares how we get the win as long as we get the win?!A...the ****...men!As a moderator, can we implement some type of "blog Wonderlic" qualification exam or are these permitted "for entertainment purposes only?"Good grief! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nobkowski 404 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I understand the importance of todays win. A road win against a good team, momentum headed into the bye, an NFC tiebreaker. So I have plently to be happy about, but we are deluding ourselves if we think this team, as it is playing right now, can hang with the Saints and Packers. I cant prove my loyalty to or passion for Ryan, so I wont try, but he hasnt established himself as a closer just yet. I believe in time he will.And I can think of quite a few games we have won because of Ryan, but my question, and perhaps I should have clarified, is, has Ryan ever led a game winning drive when that drive was ultimately our last chance to score? The 2010 SF game, fine, but before that improbable Roddy strip, everyone in the building knew that would be our last chance to score. 2010 BAL, ehh, again, we got put in spots we shouldnt have been in and the PI call was iffy."Iffy?" this whole thread is iffy. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Man 1,429 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Ryan needs to be more consistent in the clutch? You do remember the strike he tossed to Douglas for 40+ yards, after he came out of the locker room yesterday? he needs to improve on his deep ball, and accuracy as a whole this year, but saying Ryan needs to improve in the clutch is about as asinine a statement as they come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
delaigle 2,212 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do You realize that you are Asking that Matt take responsibility for mistakes made by the opposing team? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Martyr 682 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 eh, I don't care how blemished it is. A win is a win. period Quote Link to post Share on other sites
=abrahamburger= 2,566 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 So if the other team gets a penalty, it's a "blemished" game-winning drive?I is lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderCookie 216 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Do You realize that you are Asking that Matt take responsibility for mistakes made by the opposing team?Knowing Ryan, he probably would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Has he had a John Elway 1986 AFC Championship Game "The Drive" yet? Nope. Because those moments only happen in the playoffs and we haven't come close to winning a playoff game yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Wilson 7,793 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 We should get to the point, I'm sure Mary Jones is ready to tell us about all of the game winning drives that Vick had. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thiccolas Cage 1,377 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 One drive would have looked nice and would have put us up more if it weren't for Garrett Reynolds. Someone needs to apprehend his azz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 One drive would have looked nice and would have put us up more if it weren't for Garrett Reynolds. Someone needs to apprehend his azzI keep saying Mike Johnson much suck big time if he can't even get on the field in place of Reynolds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ohio Dirty Bird 102 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Remeber chicago Game 13 sec left. Stop Hating on the man. He has done quite a lot for this teamYea thats what I was thinking , Even John Elway was impressed by that one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ol'_dirty2 687 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The beauty in the the comebacks that are "blemished", whatever the heck that really means, is that Ryan has been able to learn from mistakes he made during the game and overcome them to rally his team. I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what happened before the QB picks the team up and leads them to a W. Just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
real_fan 24 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Bears Rookie yearJetsRavensRams in 08 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlfanstckndenver 2,466 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'm honestly not hating on him, Im confident he will eventually get back to 2010 form, but I cant recall any game winning drive that wasnt controversial (2010 Ravens game) or not of meaningful length (2010 Packers, 2008 Bears). I mean, even Redman has one during that time (2009 Bucs home). Theres been some game ending drives, but I remember them being RB-heavy (2008 Packers, 2009 at Bucs). I guess you could say the Jets in 2009, but we had a big facemask call and a huge Snelling run. And with 2010 at Saints, I am referring to end of regulation. Also, I believe we would have gotten one in Philly in 2008 had the refs not hosed us. Theres been a few times where we could have put games away with some more conversions (2010 Saints home). Theres also 2010 at Pittsburgh where he throws a pick right off the bat in crunch time. Perhaps I am just overly negative regarding this offense, but I cant think of any of the types of drives I am referring to. Im sure I'll get some negative comment about having too much time on my hands, but I happen to have a good memory (which makes this topic even more troublesome).PS - as far as the 2010 Ravens game, I dont think Roddy pushed off, I am referring to the 4th down pass interference call on Tony GRyan doesnt have to meet your annoying criteria for a game winning drive. He merely needs to turn in a game winning drive when that is what is needed. Go away with this stupidity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PokerSteve 27,873 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I really do like Ryan. I have quite a few of his jerseys for what that is worth. I am just saying this is one aspect of his game he needs to work on. I have no doubt he will get there, but I am frustrated by some of the blind loyalty i see on this boardYou have to understand they're basically incapable of critical analysis because of the 4-foot thick homer glasses they wear. It helps prevent reality from slipping into their brain and screwing up their rose-colored fantasies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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