krsnat1 8 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Even though I am a big Julio Jones fan, it seems that we play better without him in the lineup. Since we have him, maybe the coaching staff will realize that we need to use him more of a decoy than forcing the ball down the field (not Ryan's strength). Running and ball control is how we win! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dharma Initiative 6,386 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 It's like when we got Gonzalez. We tried to force things in the '09 season and the offense just didn't click like it did. Last year they figured it out.This having Julio run straights down the sideline isn't working Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Julio needs to be put in a position to get yac. once these guys figure that out he will be dangerous. the deep ball is a pipe dream at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl/0 881 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 The drafting of julio and TD's ******** "Explosive" PR campain put pressure on the offense to become more pass happy. So yea TD started it. Luckily the coaches can get back to Falcons football for now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio Montana 66 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Julio needs to be put in a position to get yac. once these guys figure that out he will be dangerous. the deep ball is a pipe dream at this point.ive noticed that pretty much all of our receivers get no yards after catch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 ive noticed that pretty much all of our receivers get no yards after catch.thats on mularkey and ryan both, mularkey for not putting receivers in a position to get yac and ryan for not hitting them in stride when mularkeys plan does work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brutha Mike 105 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 ive noticed that pretty much all of our receivers get no yards after catch.Winner! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vel 32,056 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 thats on mularkey and ryan both, mularkey for not putting receivers in a position to get yac and ryan for not hitting them in stride when mularkeys plan does workHow do you hit Roddy in stride when he runs a curl? All of the routes in MM's playbook have WRs stop at the end of their routes. Kind of hard to get YAC that way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 We can still be explosive despite ryans severe shortcomings in the arm department, but it relies on us getting the ball to our playmakers and allowing them to make plays after the catch. while im not on the full on mularkey hate bus, he could have a few more elaborate routes and packages that spread the defense out more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 How do you hit Roddy in stride when he runs a curl? All of the routes in MM's playbook have WRs stop at the end of their routes. Kind of hard to get YAC that wayi call ********. ryan has had PLENTY of opportunities to hit receivers in stride this year and has FAILED MISERABLY. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconinPA 12,696 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Gotta be honest here, but I think the Panthers had a lot to do with us getting back to Falcons football. Turner scorches them for big totals all the time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bayboy87natl 13 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 how many tds does jj have i think zero!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee sunset 865 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Ryan threw completions to 9 different receivers today... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 how many tds does jj have i think zero!!!!vince wilfork has been much more effective as a scorer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Antonio Montana 66 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Ryan threw completions to 9 different receivers today...thats what i love to see. in 09 ryan keyed on gonzo alot which is probably why he regressed. i tink the same thing is going on with jones, force feeding him the ball to get that big play when julio should just be another dynamic piece to our methodical offense. theres only one guy on offense you should tailor your system to, and it isnt wide receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psychic Gibbon 46,836 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I'd like to see this as a wake up call. This offense is built to run the ball so run the ball, but just remember the passing game can be extremely potent. When Julio comes back I'd like to see them continue to run the ball instead of passing the ball 40+ times per game, just use the receivers more effectively. No more go routes since this team simply does not click on them, but do some deep ins and outs, posts, deep comebacks, flag routes, drag routes, screens, etc. We have explosive playmakers on offense they just need to be used intelligently. Explosive plays don't exclusively come from throwing bombs on streak routes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trouble 2,995 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If we could just get White back in the game, would be great. Once everyone gets healthy we should be deadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I give lengthy responses 1,024 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think drafting Julio put pressure on this offense to be explosive, and it isn't. This is an opportunistic run first offense that won 13 games last year by not being explosive. Ryan isn't a QB who can throw 30 yards downfield and we shouldn't try to make him into one. Let's pound the ball with Turner, take a few shots downfield, but mostly just run medium routes. Julio can get the YAC and Roddy kind of can too. These coaches need to play Falcons Football with a hint of explosiveness, because this offense will never be as explosive as the Green Bay, New England, or New Orleans offenses. We have a very good RB and those teams don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atl/0 881 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think drafting Julio put pressure on this offense to be explosive, and it isn't. This is an opportunistic run first offense that won 13 games last year by not being explosive. Ryan isn't a QB who can throw 30 yards downfield and we shouldn't try to make him into one. Let's pound the ball with Turner, take a few shots downfield, but mostly just run medium routes. Julio can get the YAC and Roddy kind of can too. These coaches need to play Falcons Football with a hint of explosiveness, because this offense will never be as explosive as the Green Bay, New England, or New Orleans offenses. We have a very good RB and those teams don't.Very good post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaschart 565 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I would have liked to see JJ on the field on the two overthrown passes to HD, just to see if Matt could hook up deep with him. Problem is, then we allow <insert qb's name here> to put on a passing clinic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psychic Gibbon 46,836 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think drafting Julio put pressure on this offense to be explosive, and it isn't. This is an opportunistic run first offense that won 13 games last year by not being explosive. Ryan isn't a QB who can throw 30 yards downfield and we shouldn't try to make him into one. Let's pound the ball with Turner, take a few shots downfield, but mostly just run medium routes. Julio can get the YAC and Roddy kind of can too. These coaches need to play Falcons Football with a hint of explosiveness, because this offense will never be as explosive as the Green Bay, New England, or New Orleans offenses. We have a very good RB and those teams don't.It's explosive, just not in the way Mularkey was trying to make it explosive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trouble 2,995 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Like they say every week. fear Turner with the run, play action off that and keep them guessing the rest of the game. White, Jones, TG, HD and even Rodgers on screens out the back or checkdowns. It all starts with the lines and if the OLINE holds up, we should be able to crank it up fast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Butudontseeme™ 9,929 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I think drafting Julio put pressure on this offense to be explosive, and it isn't. This is an opportunistic run first offense that won 13 games last year by not being explosive. Ryan isn't a QB who can throw 30 yards downfield and we shouldn't try to make him into one. Let's pound the ball with Turner, take a few shots downfield, but mostly just run medium routes. Julio can get the YAC and Roddy kind of can too. These coaches need to play Falcons Football with a hint of explosiveness, because this offense will never be as explosive as the Green Bay, New England, or New Orleans offenses. We have a very good RB and those teams don't.Good post. Julio and roddy both being very physical can create explosiveness with yac. You can't totally throw the deep pass out of the playbook because it stretches the other d even it's not completed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Golden Child 208 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The weird thing is that Falcons football is pretty basic - get out in front and pound, pound, and play action. The problem is that Dimotroff knows that with Green Bay and New Orleans in our conference, it's going to be hard to advance. So, he puts an emphasis on explosion and drafts Julio. However, the quarterback is not a good fit for that kind of offense. So here we are stuck in a catch 22. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Butudontseeme™ 9,929 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 The weird thing is that Falcons football is pretty basic - get out in front and pound, pound, and play action. The problem is that Dimotroff knows that with Green Bay and New Orleans in our conference, it's going to be hard to advance. So, he puts an emphasis on explosion and drafts Julio. However, the quarterback is not a good fit for that kind of offense. So here we are stuck in a catch 22.What really sucks is that if we go with the ground n pound philosophy we gotta have a better defense to keep the other team in check. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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