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We need a new free agent QB next yr and need to trade Matt Ryan for draft picks

Face It--Ryan is regressing, he still will have good trade value--even after this year

we need to replenish draft picks and maximize return on White and J Jones while we can

with a QB that can-actually-throw-a-ball-deep-with-ZIP-TOUCH-and-ACCURACY

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If you disagree--please make the case as to why the CURRENT arm skills of Matt Ryan (not the old Matt Ryan)

are worth keeping

We need a new free agent QB next yr and need to trade Matt Ryan for draft picks

Face It--Ryan is regressing, he still will have good trade value--even after this year

we need to replenish draft picks and maximize return on White and J Jones while we can

with a QB that can-actually-throw-a-ball-deep-with-ZIP-TOUCH-and-ACCURACY

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Last year, Matt Ryan set the benchmark for best TD/INT ratio in Falcons history (28TD, 9INT).

He's not going to get that this year. One telling reason why would be the O-line. Ryan's been sacked 14 times so far (tied for 6th worst). And this is a QB that is accused of dinking and dunking. You connect the dots.

Bring in a new QB. Watch him get destroyed in a pocket that collapses instantaneously 8 out of 10 times. Or bring in a female QB. Or move the team to Mexico and we can be the Tijuana Falcones.

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Exactly

Matt Ryan used to ---emphasis on USED TO--

have accuracy, timing and zip on these dinks and dunks

He doesn't any longer

Ryan threw some really really bad passes last night even when he had some time, we can run this offence and win with it, BUT the QB accuracy of these dink and dunks has to be dead on and we have to make completions albiiet short ones on every down.

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We need a new free agent QB next yr and need to trade Matt Ryan for draft picks

Face It--Ryan is regressing, he still will have good trade value--even after this year

we need to replenish draft picks and maximize return on White and J Jones while we can

with a QB that can-actually-throw-a-ball-deep-with-ZIP-TOUCH-and-ACCURACY

Thats just Crazy talk

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If you disagree--please make the case as to why the CURRENT arm skills of Matt Ryan (not the old Matt Ryan)

are worth keeping

I have another thread on this very topic. Matt Ryan is made for a West Coast offense.

He is capable of making quick reads, good decisions, and accurate short/intermediate throws while not under intense pressure.

Our offensive line can not sustain blocks.

Our receivers are big, physical, and fast.

The West Coast offense is tailor-made for these qualities. The WCO is predicated on 3 and 5 step drops, quickly releasing the ball to an open man on underneath or crossing routes, and letting a physical receiver/back make a play. The short pass becomes the psuedo-running play. Matt Ryan's strengths are in line with this philosophy, and this philosophy covers up his (and the line's) weaknesses.

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If you watch MM's career, everytime..

The offense sparks in the beginning, then falls apart before he is fired...in every job, the QB starts off looking good, then regresses???

Why does this happen? Does he over coach the QB?? from what I have read and seen, its the opposite. He does not COACH anyone specifically, in fact, according to multiple articles, he does not have any personal coaching with any of his players??? He just rides what talent they have, does not teach anyone anything.

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I say it's a combination of, both, Ryan's inconsistent play and weaknesses as a QB, as well as Mularkey's inability to call a COMPLETE game that will create CONSISTENT pressure for opposing defenses.

No matter how you look at it, the coaches can coach/play call all they want, but it is always up to the PLAYERS to EXECUTE. Some can deny it all they want, but Ryan is the true definition of "Dr Jekyl & Mr. Hyde". I'm not sure if a new offensive scheme will make him a better QB for us or not, but I'm OK with at least trying something new.

For those who say we need a new OC/offensive scheme, just be prepared to sit through the "growing pains" that usually accompany such a change...

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What did we have last year that we do not this year..... Dahl. We need to get rid of Baker and get a new LT. Reynolds is good but he is no Dahl. Watching the game last night the bad passes you guys are talking about was because of the pressure Green Bay put on Ryan. If Ryan has time he is very accurate. As for the Defense I do think it is time to get a new coordinator.

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Ryan will never be a "great" QB in the vein of Brady, Manning, Rodgers, etc. He is, at best, an elite game manager. You will never see him turn chicken $%&^ into chicken salad and carry a team for an entire season the way Brady and Manning have done before. There are 4 huge problems on this team that are bigger than Ryan's inability to carry the offense though.

1. Van Gorder is a terrible DC and we have no playmakers on defense. When you don't have talent to work with, you have to be creative and aggressive to mask those deficiencies. He is neither. Talent is obviously a big issue, but even if we had talent, BVG would just have them playing a lot of soft zone so the other team has to move the ball 10 yards at a time instead of 25 yards at a time.

2. Mularkey is a terrible OC. The offense always looks crisp, in rhythm, and creative in the first quarter 9 times out of 10. Then we frequently gain the same number of yards we did in the first over the next 3 quarters combined. He gets hyperconservative with a lead, and we don't have the defense to do that. He also generally ignores Harry Douglas and JaQuizz Rodgers despite the fact that they usually make plays when given the opportunity. Our offense is basically Roddy, Tony, Julio, and Turner. If a team stops 2 of them, they will probably win the game.

3. The OL is hot garbage. Sam Baker is the worst starting LT in the entire NFL and it isn't even close. He belongs on a scout team somewhere, not the starting lineup. Nothing more really needs to be said.

4. Turner is not an elite RB, as much as some people try to make him out to be one. He has no quickness or explosiveness, he takes forever to just get to the LOS so any sliver of a hole that might have been there for him is usually closed by the time he gets to it, and any time a defender gets into the backfield, it's an automatic 2 or 3 yard loss because he lacks any ability to make someone miss and turn a loss into at least no gain. He offers nothing whatsoever to the passing game, and he's awful at blitz pickups, which is why he never plays on 3rd down. If the OL is opening gaping holes all day for him to run through, he is fine, but how often does that happen? He's a better version of TJ Duckett being given #1 RB carries.

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