Guest Negatorris Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 I was bored, so I began watching a bunch of recaps of games from Matt Ryan's rookie year, and it showed near perfect accuracy, and he was also taking shots down field, and they were actually being caught. He was moving out of the pocket, using his legs to get away from defenders who broke past the O-line, and then making great tosses as he was doing so. I haven't much of that this year, and I'm puzzled as to why.Take a look at this..http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80c56c46/Falcons-34-Saints-20and this...http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80c2761b/Falcons-24-Raiders-0I want to see more of it this week against a lame Seahawks team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francis York Morgan 25,136 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I'd like to see more picturesque games like those too, and hopefully we will. On the other hand, he's still had some good games since then, just needs to click better this year... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconinPA 12,696 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) This is why I have been saying that he is regressing. A lot of people don't want to hear that, but I think it is true. Edited September 30, 2011 by FalconinPA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Negatorris Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 That's what I was wondering also. It's hard to just accept it too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swift 220 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Tony G happenAnd he became one of focal points on offense Edited September 30, 2011 by swift Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Menage a tron 5 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 That was the first year of our offense, we were getting some pretty vanilla D packages then, they did not know what they were going to see, Ryan could easily exploit those at that point, hes very good on that part of the game, But we have to evolve as there is years of tape on us now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
real_fan 24 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I was bored, so I began watching a bunch of recaps of games from Matt Ryan's rookie year, and it showed near perfect accuracy, and he was also taking shots down field, and they were actually being caught. He was moving out of the pocket, using his legs to get away from defenders who broke past the O-line, and then making great tosses as he was doing so. I haven't much of that this year, and I'm puzzled as to why.Take a look at this..http://www.nfl.com/v...ns-34-Saints-20and this...http://www.nfl.com/v...ns-24-Raiders-0I want to see more of it this week against a lame Seahawks team.The oline blocking was perfect and Tony Gonzalez was not on the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Martyr 682 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yep. 3 years of film on our offense is slowing it down.Adjustments must be made.Lets get a little creative eh MM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Negatorris Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Nothing good about redundancy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LA Falcon 97 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Peyton Manning went from 33/15, 94.7, record 10-7; to 26/23, 84.1, record 6-10 from year 3 to year 4. He only rebounded to 27/19, 88.8, 10-7 in his 5th year.Drew Brees broke out in year 4 (year 3 of starting) He went 27/7, 104.8, 11-5; to 24/15, 89.2, 9-7 from year 4 to 5.What needs to stop is the fallacy that great QB's get better on a linear curve year after year. They're affected by the teams they play on and their own growth curves. Ryan is a great QB who will be fine. Whether a QB is regressing or not regressing is not a function of his continued statistical improvement. I don't know what Ryan's ceiling is, but I like thinking of Colts and Chargers fans who became convinced their QB's had regressed when the seas got a little choppy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ol'_dirty2 687 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 What is missing from this observation is also the fact that Turner was racking up quite a handful of yards (1600-1700?) and 17 tds. He was the MVP of our team that year. Teams were having to face the run and playaction all game long. Now teams have decided that they can either blitz and jump our quick routes or get pressure with the front 4 and play coverage on the back end to disrupt Ryan. Years and years of film have changed other teams looks against us. In short, they know our tendencies and plan around what we do well and badly. Good coaching...now we have to adjust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Negatorris Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I agree with you. I don't think Matt is regressing, but his options are being limited thanks to our present O-line and MM. Our O-line was the 2nd best in the league, so why fix something that was never broken. I believe Matt has the athleticism to stretch plays with his legs, and I believe he will have his season where he breaks out as do a lot of the great QBs do, like the ones you listed, LA.I think the Falcons are trying to rush things, just because we have JJ. Things won't immediately change, and we won't suddenly become an explosive passing team. We have to stick to what we're good at, and that's the run. Michael Turner needs to get a rhythm for the season, so he can start wearing down defenses like he did last year. Then we can start worrying about incorporating the pass plays once the defense is tired since not many defenders can keep up with Jones, or match his vertical. And Tony G's size and strength is hard to beat also. I wish the coaches would realize this and play it smart. Maybe this team can start up another great run. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Club212 308 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 He's gun shy because of the time given from our OL, plus Ovie is hurting & not in there to pick up blitz. When he does have time, the WR's have given up on there routes & stand waiting for a sack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. 0-2 aka Top Ramen 329 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 There weren't downfield shots attempted in either of those videos. What were you watching? The longest throw he made was maybe 30 yards. It's funny how defenses are now stacking the box making ryan beat them with his arm. ironic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconinPA 12,696 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Peyton Manning went from 33/15, 94.7, record 10-7; to 26/23, 84.1, record 6-10 from year 3 to year 4. He only rebounded to 27/19, 88.8, 10-7 in his 5th year.Drew Brees broke out in year 4 (year 3 of starting) He went 27/7, 104.8, 11-5; to 24/15, 89.2, 9-7 from year 4 to 5.What needs to stop is the fallacy that great QB's get better on a linear curve year after year. They're affected by the teams they play on and their own growth curves. Ryan is a great QB who will be fine. Whether a QB is regressing or not regressing is not a function of his continued statistical improvement. I don't know what Ryan's ceiling is, but I like thinking of Colts and Chargers fans who became convinced their QB's had regressed when the seas got a little choppy.No, what needs to stop is the fallacy that a Ryan is a great QB, when he is actually right now only a good QB. I also wonder why when people make comparisons to Ryan why they always have to compare his numbers to Manning, Brady, Brees etc. He is not in the same league as these guys. I think there are more comparable QB's to compare him too. Maybe one day he will be better than all the above, but let's give it time before we start throwing the word great around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tandy 18,238 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 FalconinPA, he is in the same League. NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. Just sayin' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pzummo 6,724 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Getting sacked 5 times per game happened. This would be a fun drill to watch. Have a 275lb man run straight at you while you throw a football to your friend. The 275lb man slams you to the ground. Throw the football to your friend again. Repeat this process 5 times. Post it on youtube for all to enjoy, as I'm sure you'll get a million hits. You can name it, "A Day in the Life of Matt Ryan." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thiccolas Cage 1,376 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Geezus lord, THIS IS ONLY HIS 4 F******* SEASON! I will take the wins over stats ANY day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird? 81 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 One thing he doesn't like is pressure.......but he never complains about it........unlike Michael Vick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MeanJoeGreene74 207 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 So Silly...if we were 3-0 right now, and Ryan made the exact same throws to get us there, you all would still be saying that Ryan is "just outside" of being an elite QB or that he is top 5 now with the loss of Manning. He Has six 300yd games in his first three years, has two this year now after only 3 games this year.The sky is NOT falling people!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thiccolas Cage 1,376 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Might I add that he threw 4 TD passes in one game as well... A new milestone for young Ice Edited September 30, 2011 by AtlFanatic24-7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Birds are the truth 363 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I was bored, so I began watching a bunch of recaps of games from Matt Ryan's rookie year, and it showed near perfect accuracy, and he was also taking shots down field, and they were actually being caught. He was moving out of the pocket, using his legs to get away from defenders who broke past the O-line, and then making great tosses as he was doing so. I haven't much of that this year, and I'm puzzled as to why.Take a look at this..http://www.nfl.com/v...ns-34-Saints-20and this...http://www.nfl.com/v...ns-24-Raiders-0I want to see more of it this week against a lame Seahawks team.In that Saints Game Matt was on fire. 27 points before the half. I'm wondering about the same thing bro, what happen to our offense? Another thing that's disturbing, the Bootleg MM never tends to give up on. It doesn't work. Notice in the video, Matt already had a defender in his face before he can barely get the ball off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FalconinPA 12,696 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 FalconinPA, he is in the same League. NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. Just sayin'Yeah, true. That is the only league that I think they have in common. I am not knocking Ryan, but I think he can be great, but isn't near there yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lasher1116 62 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 What happened is simple....MM tried to coach someone...and instead of improving, Matt start imploding from all the stupidity MM has to offer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LA Falcon 97 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 No, what needs to stop is the fallacy that a Ryan is a great QB, when he is actually right now only a good QB. I also wonder why when people make comparisons to Ryan why they always have to compare his numbers to Manning, Brady, Brees etc. He is not in the same league as these guys. I think there are more comparable QB's to compare him too. Maybe one day he will be better than all the above, but let's give it time before we start throwing the word great around.I'm using the great QB's intentionally to make a point. In hindsight, we now know that they weren't regressing and hadn't reached their ceilings when their numbers suddenly dropped off. But at the time, there might have been fans who thought, "Peyton's great, but he'll never get the interceptions under control" or "Brees is great, but maybe he just had a fluke great season." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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