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Tdwii's Eagles Game Observations - Not To Be A Downer...


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I loved the fact that the Falcons showed resilence with their backs against the wall. Lose this game, and not only does the sky start falling relating to 2011, but now you've just taken on two NFC powers and lost to them. Counting Green Bay...you would have had to have said that takes you out of the elite NFC discussion 100% for awhile. With that said...I'm just not so sure we should still be in it.

A. Matt Ryan is getting obliterated - I've tried to give Sam Baker as long a leash as possible. And while Cole is a very good DE, Baker practically escorted Cole to Ryan on multiple occassions. ESPN.com has Ryan taking 17 hits through the first 2 games. That works out to 136 over 16 games. In other words...Ryan won't last the season at this pace.

B. Explosive? - Julio is going to be good...real good. While he had but the two catches, his second was a big time play. He was getting schooled a bit by Mr. Asomugha last night, but he kept his head in the game and made a big play when needed. With that said, and perhaps this is tied into A above, but this offense doesn't look a whole lot different from last season. Sure, Turner has broken off a couple of long runs (and he's also become a viable receiver out of the backfield), but I can't help but think that we're grinding to make yardage and plays. The true explosive offenses seem to execute as a matter of routine. I've got to tell myself 'be patient'...but I see little progress on this front.

C. Dunta Robinson isn't that good - In two games, what I've seen is that the level of respect afforded Grimes has grown significantly...and now teams are attacking Dunta. And he's not making teams pay. The interesting thing about Grimes last year was that he was the most targeted CB in the NFL last year and with 6 INT's and 23 PD's, he made teams pay for it. Well, I'd be suprised if his rank in this category in 2011 is Top 25. It's simply easier to attack Mr. $50+ million.

D. Where's the pressure? - St. Louis had 3 sacks and 11 QB hits against PHI last week. Falcons? 0/6. In Chicago, we had 4 sacks & 6 QB hits. This week against the Saints, Cutler was sacked 6 times and hit 10 times. So our final tally against like opponents is:

Falcons = 4 sacks & 12 QB hits

Other opponent = 9 sacks & 21 QB hits

I recognize that Peria Jerry made his first BIG play as a Falcon when he caused the first Vick fumble. Bu t getting pressure on the QB has to be consistent and it seems that we were not as good at doing this as either St. Louis or New Orleans.

E. Matt Bosher - Fail.

Overall, I don't know if I've ever been as stunned at winning a game as I was at this one...at least under the Mike Smith era. We seem to be committing dumb penalties. We're not as crisp from an execution standpoint and I've got to say...the Falcons were fortunate that Vick went down. Normally after a win like this, I'd be feeling euphoric. But concern seems to be what's gurgling in my gut. We've got some significant issues to fix. Todd McClure coming back would be a start.

This will probably be taken as a Debbie Downer type of post and perhaps it is. But I can't help but feeling that we've temporarily staved off more disappointment instead of taking a true step toward the top of the mountain.

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I think the explosive plays are going to come. I really wouldn't worry about that. From what I understand, the Eagles D is designed to stop the pass first. A lot of times the had double coverage on Roddy AND Julio. Combine that with the good DE's they have and it's going to be tough to get the explosive plays.

We ran 2 WRs sets and just ran streak routes with the WRs and stop routes. No crossing patterns, no nothing. Our offense is vvery predictable...

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No this isn't a bad post at all, everything you're saying is the truth. I think the o line will shape up and get better, it won't be great, but it will be better. Ryan has the ability to get rid of the ball quickly before pressure gets to him (like manning and brees) which is why Ryan hasn't been sacked that often in his career. However, remember our first two opponents, one is a great cover 2 defense and the other has 3 pro bowl corner backs. When the secondary does a good job of covering the receivers, and Ryan has no one to throw to, the pressure will eventually get to him and the o line will be exposed. I think we'll be ok though. And with McClure coming back, that should really help. I also agree with what I saw about Bosher, he just sucks. When it comes to Robinson, I did notice that Grimes didn't get thrown at really at all last night, and Jackson had a pretty quiet game. It was mostly just Maclin VS Robinson on the right side of the field, but I will cut Robinson some slack, Vick naturally throws to that side of the field and he is left handed and he runs to left ALL the time.

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He was taking that many hits last year. Nobody seemed to notice it. I tracked them through several games - and it was astounding.

That's why when people question his toughness or say he's playing scared - I disregard their opinion on most things because it shows a total lack of awareness of what is going on out there on the field.

Also - I said it in the offseason and I'll say it again. You can buy all the explosive toys you want - but if you don't have the ability to light the fuse - you will go nowhere.

Doesn't matter how many weapons you have. If you don't have the time to set up the deep pass - you will not get it.

The most we can hope for is an improvement in YAC - which we have already gotten a great deal of so far this year - and that will make for longer plays and more yardage.

Until we have the right group in the trenches - we will continue to struggle with explosiveness.

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i think a big reason why STL got more sacks and pressure was because they blitzed a whole lot more than we did. that lead to them getting to him more often, but it also allowed vick to run all over them. we sat back in zone almost the whole game.

Yeah, I don't think we were necessarily TRYING to get sacks in this game the way St. Louis was. I actually liked BVG's game plan against the Eagles in this one... if not for Vick's and McCoy's insane athletcisim and shiftiness, we would have held them to way fewer yards. Oh, and if Dunta Robinson hadn't played like hot garbage. :angry:

As far as the offensive play calling goes, I completely agree that everything was too vanilla. But, when you are facing a cornerback trio of Asomugha, Samuel and Rodgers-Cromartie, I'm not sure it's wise to try winging it down the field on every play. The two things I DID like on offense were that we actually took some downfield shots (even though they were all incomplete) and that we stuck to the run even late in the 4th quarter. The Eagles were completely unprepared for that Michael Turner run after the Hawley holding penalty, and it was a really gutsy call from Ryan in the no-huddle offense that paid off in a huge way.

I think next week against the Bucs, you will see us try to open up the passing game a bit more. Talib and Barber are a good cornerback duo, but this is still the weakest defense we've faced so far this season, and it's time for Jones and Douglas to take advantage (assuming Talib draws Roddy, White might not have a big game).

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We ran 2 WRs sets and just ran streak routes with the WRs and stop routes. No crossing patterns, no nothing. Our offense is vvery predictable...

What else were they to do with ryan getting pressured so much. They needed the extra bodies on the line to protect, which didn't work very well either.

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