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doesn't mean it will last.

The latest I heard was for 2012:

odd # of teams in the SEC.

2013:

1st choice: Oklahoma (not gonna happen)

2nd choice: Missouri

distant 3rd: West VA

oklahoma and okie state are attached together and ou won't leave texas shadow. i would be happy with missouri and even though um guys are saying they don't see um coming to the sec you truly can never tell with this expansion. what we know or feel today could change tomorrow. i wonder if there is another team out there that we aren't even talking about that has an interest in coming to the sec and it will just come out of the blue..

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someone named john wilner who covers college sports on the west coast is this:

B12 bracing for Mizzou to leave, considering a plan to add 4 schools: BYU, Boise, WVU and Ville. Many steps btwn here and there, of course.

Between Mizzou and A&M, SEC would add 11 million TV homes. Wonder if Slive thinking about starting Pac12-esque network for 3rd tier.

At $1 per month for in-market sub fees, Mizzou and A&M would be worth $100M/year by themselves.

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As for Missouri I keep reading that the SEC is not looking for a 14th team right now. Is that just a smoke screen?

if missouri wanted to be in the sec they would already be in it. mizzou said no, but they are reconsidering. they are getting pressure btw from their alumni.. their administration is feeling the heat.

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Ok this is what ive heard from some pretty good sources

WVU wanted in and the SEC explored it. However their academic standards(poor) quickly put a nix on that whole situation.

Missouri reps were in Birmingham yesterday for about 4 hours.

Missouri has a BOR meeting scheduled for Thursday.

Think we should know alot more by the weekend

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Ok this is what ive heard from some pretty good sources

WVU wanted in and the SEC explored it. However their academic standards(poor) quickly put a nix on that whole situation.

Missouri reps were in Birmingham yesterday for about 4 hours.

Missouri has a BOR meeting scheduled for Thursday.

Think we should know alot more by the weekend

yep i heard about that meeting earlier today.. they are getting a lot of pressure to go to the sec.

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NCAA president, Dr. Mark Emmert, has asked school administrators to consider more than revenue when dealing with conference affiliation. He stated that the perception has become that money is the only factor; even declaring "this is not the NFL, the NBA, it's not a business."

INDIANAPOLIS -- As a growing number of schools play musical chairs with conferences, NCAA president Mark Emmert says he is concerned about the perception that money is driving the decisions and declared "this is not the NFL, the NBA, it's not a business."

Instead, Emmert is urging school presidents to consider factors besides revenue when choosing conference affiliation.

"I think what came across (with realignment) is that all we care about is money and what we can do that is to our advantage," Emmert said in an interview Wednesday with The Associated Press. "Nobody was talking about what this is going to do for student-athletes or intercollegiate athletic programs. It was all about let's make a deal."

Emmert understands the urge, perhaps even the necessity, for schools to do something.

Nobody wants to give up a potentially big payday, and nobody wants to be left without a seat when the music stops playing.

Before leaving the University of Washington to take the NCAA job last October, Emmert participated in the same sort of discussion with his Pac-10 colleagues. Emmert and the others eventually voted to accept two new members, Colorado and Utah, which allowed the conference to add a football title game as another moneymaker.

There's nothing wrong with finding more revenue, Emmert said, as long as it is used properly and doesn't add to the perception that college sports is all about the bottom line.

"We shouldn't say money isn't important," he said. "It is very important to fund intercollegiate athletics because universities can no longer afford to take money out of their regular budgets to subsidize sports. Money's not evil. It's what you do with the money that's evil."

Skeptics can point in almost any direction to illustrate their point that college sports is big businesses.

In April 2010, the NCAA signed a $10.8 billion television contract with CBS and TNT to televise the men's basketball tournament. The NCAA says more than 90 percent of that money will go directly back to schools.

Bowl games generate tens of millions of dollars for participating teams, which are then divvied up among all of the teams in the league. And some conferences have started their own television networks, which pump millions into athletic department budgets, and many schools have spent millions more on their facilities in the recruiting race.

That's only part of the equation.

School leaders are debating proposals that would cover an athlete's full cost of attendance, money that would go beyond the cost of tuition, room and board, fees and books. The hope is to lessen the temptation of being influenced by outsiders offering money or benefits that run afoul of NCAA rules.

Conference realignment cropped up last year when the Big 12 lost Nebraska (Big Ten) and Colorado. That prompted other changes and things really took off recently when the ACC announced it was accepting Syracuse and Pittsburgh from the Big East and Texas A&M announced plans to leave the Big 12 for the Southeastern Conference.

Critics fear the changes could lead to a handful of 16-team superconferences that could break away from the NCAA or dictate looser rules to stay competitive.

Though Emmert has no authority to dictate school decisions about conferences, he is trying to redirect the conversation.

"I'm not concerned so much about one university moving from one conference to another or exploring what their options are," Emmert said. "What I want, and what I've been encouraging schools to do, is look at what the end is.

"The end is not having 16 schools in a conference or doing a deal. It's why are you going in that direction and what are the outcomes you are trying to achieve? They better be looking at it to see what it will do for student-athletes. Will it allow us to create more revenue to support these big intercollegiate programs, and whether we're contemplating something that won't create more impositions for our student-athletes."

Emmert has downplayed the significance of conference expansion or contraction, pointing out that leagues have expanded and dissolved before.

But there's one thing he wants to make clear: The NCAA will never become the equivalent of a pro league.

"The past handful of weeks, we have seen people behaving perfectly rationally because they think they'll be left without a chair when the music stops. Or that they'll be in a disadvantageous position or that they'll be left out of a media cycle," he said. "I get that. But at the end of the day, these presidents, these conference commissioners and myself, we have to be able to work together."

Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press

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Mizzou chancellor Brady Deaton has resigned his position of chair of the Big 12 Board of Directors.

Missouri curators vote to consider leaving Big 12 Conference. They will not sign long term deal with the Big 12. Come on down to the SEC!!

That pretty much spells out their intentions and their comfort level in the long term stability of the Big 12.

Not exactly hugely excited about adding Mizzou to the SEC. Hopefully that's where it ends. Auburn moving to the East isn't a huge deal, but either the Iron Bowl or UT/Bama game will cease to be an annual matchup if we keep the 12 game schedule with all the big boy conferences getting bigger. I would think the Iron Bowl stays put for rivalry weekend and the Third Saturday in October will become an alternating game.

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That pretty much spells out their intentions and their comfort level in the long term stability of the Big 12.

Not exactly hugely excited about adding Mizzou to the SEC. Hopefully that's where it ends. Auburn moving to the East isn't a huge deal, but either the Iron Bowl or UT/Bama game will cease to be an annual matchup if we keep the 12 game schedule with all the big boy conferences getting bigger. I would think the Iron Bowl stays put for rivalry weekend and the Third Saturday in October will become an alternating game.

They could move one of the Miss schools over to the East and for their rivalry they can play as each others common opponent from the opposite division.

After reading one of Sac's links I could see Missouri being added to the East.

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the big 12 expansion isn't over at all, they are adding some more teams. i saw a few tweets from national guys saying a big 12 sources gave them a list of 3 more teams they are looking at.

also mizzou doesn't have the necessary 9 votes to be given an invite. bama wants to hold off on them to see if we can get a team in the east. they are against auburn moving to the east (auburn is for that move actually) because it would stop the yearly vols/bama game and that traditional series must continue. bama and a handful of other teams are in agreement and they will have to compromise of either adding an east team or just moving missouri to the east.

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