RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 In my opinion the #1 problem with our passing game especially on 3rd down is the oline not holding up long enough. But I think another thing is Ryan being a little to passive. On 1st and second down I can understand this and not wanting to turn it over. Its a smart move to play dink and dunk with the under wr or back. But in certain situations such as 3 and 12 on our side of the 50 yard line doesn't it make sense to always have either Roddy or Julio on a deep pattern and if nothing else is open for Ryan to put some air under it and let one of those two try and make a play? I mean roddy and julio are big boys who can jump. I'd much rather see that and get a pick down on the 20 or 15 yard line then just throw a 5 yard pass to a back who gets tackled anyways 7 yards short of the first down. That doesn't do any good. We just punt anyways the next down. I know its never a smart idea really to just throw a ball up for grabs, but I think in those kinds of situations it make more sense with the WR size we have to try and make something happen rather than just giving up and coming up 8 yards short. Thoughts????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 i dont understand why we dont just throw the ball up in the air and have our WRs fight for the ball. all the elite receivers go and get jump balls. and im sure White and Jones are capable of doing so. i dont know if its Ryan being gun shy or our offense is designed to not take those kinds of risks. we dont even need the Oline to hold up for very long if Ryan throws some jump balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Every other team does this at least once a quarter. I have really never seen us try this. I just don't get it. What about in the last few min of sundays game. Instead of tossing one up for julio, ryan is just looking at the checkdown and getting sacked. Yeah julio or roddy were probably covered, but why not take a shot? We were beat anyways. I don't get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ðigital Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I don't know either, but the team knew that we were going into game 1 with two young linemen... it wasn't a surprise. We needed to adjust the game plan for that and we didn't. There were a few plays were the line almost got Ryan killed, but he usually had the same amount of time as Cutler did. My younger brother sat there and counted from the 2nd quarter on most times. Play calling and/or Ryan must share most of the blame this time.I'm not a coach, but we should have pounded the ball against the Bears and hoped it was enough to set-up play action. It would have been a lot less embarrassing anyhow. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I agree the line was pathetic. And I didn't comprehend the gameplan we had whatsoever. But I'm just saying give our big body WR's a chance to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ðigital Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Honestly I would like to see it too, but keep in mind that it's high risk, high reward. I personally wish we would go back to establishing the power run game first. I didn't think adding Julio was suppose to change the way we do business. If it ain't broke don't fix it. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 And I'm not saying every single time we need to bomb it down the field. I'm just saying in the right situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftermath Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I'll admit, I was hoping we would be a more of a down the field passing team this year but we still seem to be running those same plays where none of our receivers go more than 10-15 yards deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomak Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 What was Ryan's first pass in the NFL? Someone tell Mularkey to watch the tape and go back to that kind of game. What did Ryan do......allowed his receiver to make a play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I just really hope mularky has made some changes to the gameplan. And we come out looking a lot better. Otherwise its going to be a long embarrassing sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Every other team does this at least once a quarter. I have really never seen us try this. I just don't get it. What about in the last few min of sundays game. Instead of tossing one up for julio, ryan is just looking at the checkdown and getting sacked. Yeah julio or roddy were probably covered, but why not take a shot? We were beat anyways. I don't get itThat's the pansy-azz bs that burns me up the worst. If you're getting your brains beat out, just go for it. No more punting on 4th down, no more dinks, do something to try to turn things around, if not to salvage the game you're playing, but to see if you can come up with something for the next game. Going out like the Falcons did against the Bears is the chicken-sh1t way to die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidious Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If MM calls plays this Sunday like last Sunday, Blank better add him to the unemployment statistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYNE Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 I agree 100 percent pokersteve. It was disgusting to me at the end of that game we continued to just dump it off and punt the ball. Even on the very last drive we still didn't even try and throw one up. We were beat anyways. Why not just throw one and try and have someone make a play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norwood all the way! Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 ive pretty much lost faith in MM making changes to his gameplan. he wont change a thing. he will do the same thing over and over again. i fully expect us to run the same offense we're used to seeing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I watched Matt in college, dude has that in his game, he's being conditioned to avoid taking risks. Mularkey's interview and past (see the articles in the other thread) prove such. It's very disturbing. It hinges on Smitty keeping this up. I love Smitty, but if this keeps up, he's going to get turned on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr284 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In my opinion the #1 problem with our passing game especially on 3rd down is the oline not holding up long enough. But I think another thing is Ryan being a little to passive. On 1st and second down I can understand this and not wanting to turn it over. Its a smart move to play dink and dunk with the under wr or back. But in certain situations such as 3 and 12 on our side of the 50 yard line doesn't it make sense to always have either Roddy or Julio on a deep pattern and if nothing else is open for Ryan to put some air under it and let one of those two try and make a play? I mean roddy and julio are big boys who can jump. I'd much rather see that and get a pick down on the 20 or 15 yard line then just throw a 5 yard pass to a back who gets tackled anyways 7 yards short of the first down. That doesn't do any good. We just punt anyways the next down. I know its never a smart idea really to just throw a ball up for grabs, but I think in those kinds of situations it make more sense with the WR size we have to try and make something happen rather than just giving up and coming up 8 yards short. Thoughts?????fitz and calvin johnson use their size to go up and get the ball and usually make the most out of the opportunities given matt needs to give 84 n 11 the same chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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