ki46dinah Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I am re-watching the Bears game...and 2 players are sticking out to me.Spoon and Edwards......and not for good reasons.On Forte's screen TD, Edwards was jogging after a very catchable Forte, and on MANY plays Spoon is just jogging after guys he potentially has a shot at.Not to mention the myriad of other disappointing plays from Spoon...completely whiffed on that Forte screen pass, and was washed out of a play due his poor decision making on the off left tackle long Forte run.Very, very disappointing...especially when I see guys like Nich and a defensive tackle 55 yards down the field trying to tackle Hester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Want a Sam Baker Beard Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I hope Mike Smith and VanGorder gets this defense in line, especially secondary and also work on that o-line. If they do we could have a chance to compete and possibly beat vick and his boys, but if they can`t straighten up we have no chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tootie Quivers Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It still irks me that we spent a 1st round pick on a non rush LB. Only a 2 to 3 43 linebackers in the NFL are worthy of a mid 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkonator Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Week 2 move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoeSr Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 It still irks me that we spent a 1st round pick on a non rush LB. Only a 2 to 3 43 linebackers in the NFL are worthy of a mid 1st round pick.Mr. Fantastic, excellent post. If we were going to get a LB in the first round, we may as well have gone after Matthews, even though people were saying he is more of a 34 LB. Matt Ryan and either a DE or WR instead of Baker in 2008; Matthews instead of Jerry in 2009 (although I like him and believe he'll pan out, just not worth a 1st round pick though), and that pick on Weatherspoon for something else in 2010. Also, if the WR we could have drafted in 2008 panned out, we wouldn't have had to do what we did in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JoeSr Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Week 2 move onNo sir. I will move on when the clock hits 8:30pm Sunday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Clay isn't more of a 34 rush LB. He IS a 34 rush LB. All he has ever done since HS is rush the QB. And Spoon had a good game. A very good game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Clay isn't more of a 34 rush LB. He IS a 34 rush LB. All he has ever done since HS is rush the QB. And Spoon had a good game. A very good gameI just watched the entire game...he, overall, was awful.I give him credit for his early TFL, and the pass breakup in the last few minutes of the game. Other than that, he was out of position, and showed pizz poor effort in pursuit and tackling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 His effort on that Forte TD was horrible along with his tackling. But than again tacking in the NFL overall has been horrible since last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl/0 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If you watched the game you would notice Weatherspoon out of position plenty of times in coverage. Looking at his stats you would think he had a great game but he got a TFL at the beginning of the game, and a PD at the end. in between you would see him making tackles 7 yards down the field and allowing receptions on 3rd down in his area.He was taking off plays at times like the WR Screen to Hester he just jogged after him and let him cut up field. Finally the non tackle he had on Forte on the screen that started the ball rolling for Chicago, total bonehead move.I'm unimpressed and I'm starting to think some are just looking at stat sheets instead of what's going on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I am re-watching the Bears game...and 2 players are sticking out to me.Spoon and Edwards......and not for good reasons.On Forte's screen TD, Edwards was jogging after a very catchable Forte, and on MANY plays Spoon is just jogging after guys he potentially has a shot at.Not to mention the myriad of other disappointing plays from Spoon...completely whiffed on that Forte screen pass, and was washed out of a play due his poor decision making on the off left tackle long Forte run.Very, very disappointing...especially when I see guys like Nich and a defensive tackle 55 yards down the field trying to tackle Hester.Unless you have the coaches tape, it's virtually impossible to evaluate their true performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully45 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's true that TD could've drafted much better. It should've been like this...2008Antonie Cason instead of Sam Baker2009Clay Matthews instead of Peria JerryDarell Scott instead of Chris Owens2010Dez Bryant instead of Sean Weatherspoon2011Akeem Ayers, Marcus Gilbert instead of Julio JonesLuke Stocker instead of Akeem Dent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's been 24 hours! The coaches have watched tape. Spoon was called out as well as Edwards and the rest of the team. Let's start talking trash about the Eagles. PLEASE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayboy87natl Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Ray Edwards was getting pushed around no pressure, looked like Jamaal Anderson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It's true that TD could've drafted much better. It should've been like this...2008Antonie Cason instead of Sam Baker2009Clay Matthews instead of Peria JerryDarell Scott instead of Chris Owens2010Dez Bryant instead of Sean Weatherspoon2011Akeem Ayers, Marcus Gilbert instead of Julio JonesLuke Stocker instead of Akeem DentAnd the Chargers wouldn't have taken Ryan Leaf. Come on hindsight is 20/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Coaches tape do tell you a lot more. And you can't tell any player is out of position in coverage unless you see the coaches tape and know their drop in coverage. With that said, can any of you tell me what is Spoon depth on cover 2? I'm willing to bet none can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 It still irks me that we spent a 1st round pick on a non rush LB. Only a 2 to 3 43 linebackers in the NFL are worthy of a mid 1st round pick.spoon was known for blitzing and covering backs and TEs coming out of college... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Lol I can tell you his depth in a cover two. I won't spoil the quiz though. But they were solid outside of the screens. They are better on first and second down and in the red zone when the field is shortened. The zone isn't bad. They just had a bad game. Look at the preseason. They were tough. Even the Saints game they were tough. When they have a swagger, they are a really good unit. But if they are behind the 8-ball, they struggle and need some help from the offense. Everybody feeds off the offense. The offense, the defense, special teams, and the fans. If we score, the fans lose their minds and the defense feeds off of that and plays better. They can keep the offense in the game on the road but not all game like the Ravens and Steelers and Bears but they showed it last year and Sunday that, if on the road and the offense is sputtering, they can keep the game manageable. That's all I ask. You guys want to see 0 points and 0 yards. That's not going to happen. They will give up yards. But if they cut down on the missed tackles, the screens don't happen and they keep holding like they were all game. I am ok with the defense and when they settle down and add Hayden and Sanders, they will be a very good unit. May not be elite, but will be very good. Matt has to relax too. He is an outstanding QB and should play like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolafan33 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Clay isn't more of a 34 rush LB. He IS a 34 rush LB. All he has ever done since HS is rush the QB. And Spoon had a good game. A very good gameSpoon rated out as your worst LB in the game, by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I am re-watching the Bears game...and 2 players are sticking out to me.Spoon and Edwards......and not for good reasons.On Forte's screen TD, Edwards was jogging after a very catchable Forte, and on MANY plays Spoon is just jogging after guys he potentially has a shot at.Not to mention the myriad of other disappointing plays from Spoon...completely whiffed on that Forte screen pass, and was washed out of a play due his poor decision making on the off left tackle long Forte run.Very, very disappointing...especially when I see guys like Nich and a defensive tackle 55 yards down the field trying to tackle Hester.Did your DVR not record anything before Spoon didn't wrap up Forte because he was all over every play before that. He was in the back field making solid tackles left and right. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I am shocked you came away with that while ignoring the beginning part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr284 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Clay isn't more of a 34 rush LB. He IS a 34 rush LB. All he has ever done since HS is rush the QB. And Spoon had a good game. A very good gamei agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Did your DVR not record anything before Spoon didn't wrap up Forte because he was all over every play before that. He was in the back field making solid tackles left and right. I haven't watched the whole thing yet but I am shocked you came away with that while ignoring the beginning part.I addressed his highlights later in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I just watched the entire game...he, overall, was awful.I give him credit for his early TFL, and the pass breakup in the last few minutes of the game. Other than that, he was out of position, and showed pizz poor effort in pursuit and tackling.He made 4 tackles out of the first 8 plays for a net of -4 yards. He started out pretty well. He still looks horrible/confused in coverage. He led the team in tackles also so I wouldn't say he was the worst one on the team Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Spoon rated out as your worst LB in the game, by far.and this is why you know jack chit about football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 All I know is those Lbers better be ready to defend the screen passes against the Eagles cause you can bet Shady McCoy will be used in this roll for the EaGLES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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