Super Mario Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) Yes, Matt Ryan may be the quarterback of the Atlanta Falcons, and that may lead to some 'homeristic' views, but that alone does not explain why Matt Ryan is so overrated by the fanbase. After all, Michael Jenkins and Joey Harrington were once Falcons but they were not as revered. If we examine this closer, there is one explanation as to why Ryan is overrated. That is, his first pass of his NFL career resulted in a touchdown. While the pass/play itself was not unusual as many QBs around the league can hit a WR on a seam route, it is because it occurred at that exact time, that fans seem to overrate Matt Ryan. A fan base needed hope after Michael Vick's departure, and the timing of that touchdown did much more for Ryan's reputation than if it had occurred later in that game. It is that play, and the miraculous comeback against the Bears in which Jenkins ran a typical out route, that prevent fans from objectively examining Ryan's career performance. Fans ought to know that most starters in the league, make one or two spectacular plays in their careers. But it is consistency that matters, and Ryan does not consistently make plays.Try this out. Pretend those two plays never happened, and what would you think of Ryan? Then do the same for Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, or Tom Brady. Take away their two best plays and what happens? You either think of many other spectacular plays or you just end up with an extremely consistent QB that produces week in and week out. Think about it, if Marshawn Lynch's run against the Saints happened on his first career carry, he'd probably still be on the Bills.When we take away those two plays from Ryan, the only thing that he has left is his win to loss ratio. But wins, just like wins in baseball, are not the best tool to measure the ability of a player in a team sport. For example, in baseball, a pitcher can give up 5 runs, but if his offense is potent enough to score 6+ runs, then the pitcher gets the win. Same in football. The QB may throw for 100 yards and 0 touchdowns, but if his run game and defense dominates, he will still be given the win. After all, even Trent Dilfer was able to win a Superbowl.As it is a team sport, naturally in losses, blame is attributed to the WR for not getting open or for the line for not blocking. This is used as an explanation for Ryan not throwing the ball further than 10 yards. But here's something to chew on. If it took me 8 seconds to run a 40, I could get 10 yards down the field in 2 seconds. I could get 12.5 yards down the field in 2.5 seconds. I presume Julio Jones, Roddy White, and Harry Douglas can each run 40 yards in less than 8 seconds. Yet, in the game, all we saw were check downs and passes that did not reach the first down marker.It is well known that Ryan is not a playmaker, but a game manager. Like the pitchers who don't have the 'stuff', yet who can post ERAs in the low 3s, Ryan needs a top 3 defense and top 5 talent on offense to win the Superbowl. Edited September 13, 2011 by Vick to Julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlshocker Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 You got to much time on your hands. Writing books....:/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why do you still pop up on my screen? I swore I had you blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 No more "negs," so take a "**** you" instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Is it really necessary to have all of these anti-Matt Ryan threads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird of a Feather Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 This thread sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Now now just because the dude should be banned from here does not call for name calling.But the OP does need to move on. Living in the past can bring ya down hard. Heck what am I saying I cant get over the GAME SUNDAY!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robb4242 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why Is Matt Ryan So Overrated By Our Fans And 'pundits'?Started by Vick to Julio, Today, 09:25 PMbecause you wouldn't know QB talent if it bit you in the *** like an abused pit bull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
84White32Quizz Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 All the guy does is win. And after these next 15 games he will have at least 10 more wins added to his career total and we will be back in the playoffs for the 3rd time in 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I think he did great in many games. The Baltimore game comes to mind immediately. We threw the whole game and Matt was spectacular. He basically ran the offense by himself that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus*Crimes Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Op is an idiot. This is the first post of his that I've read, and I can tell he was dropped on his head as a child, and beaten as an adult... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Winningest QB in the first 3 years in the NFL, but "Let's take away his wins to see what we have"What kind of idiotic logic is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Nips Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Winningest QB in the first 3 years in the NFL, but "Let's take away his wins to see what we have"What kind of idiotic logic is that?There's no trophy for regular season wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 There's no trophy for regular season winsThere's no trophy for a playoff win but people harp on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISUFALCON Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Who cares if people overate him? He is the QB of this team and has had success so why not like him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller2Rison Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I like it "let's take away hist first pass and lets take aways his come back win against the bears and lets take away his come back win against the 49ers and lets take away his big game against the ravens and lets take away his drives to beat the bucs and lets take away his pro bowl and all of his wins, than u got just an average QB" man u got some logic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Does it ever stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Mario Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) I like it "let's take away hist first pass and lets take aways his come back win against the bears and lets take away his come back win against the 49ers and lets take away his big game against the ravens and lets take away his drives to beat the bucs and lets take away his pro bowl and all of his wins, than u got just an average QB" man u got some logic!It's called removing emotion so that you can be objective. Those two plays are the most emotionally loaded plays in Ryan's career. Edited September 13, 2011 by Vick to Julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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