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Where does Matt Ryan stand? If he is going to be elite or dominant, he needs to exhibit these two qualities.

The one thing he gets credit for is throwing the ball to a spot even before the WR makes his break. That is great, but does he thread the needle? Does he consistantly throw it to the right guy? Brady has long been noted for throwing to the best/most open man at a higher % than any QB, Rodgers has been credited with that same quality in the last two seasons. I want to see Ryan reading defenses and finding the open man 70-80% of the time. I seem to see WR's more wide open in the back of the frame than the guy he throws to where the ball is defended or incomplete quite a bit.

What is everyone else seeing regarding his decision making/ability to consistantly throw to the most open option?

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Matt is a dufus. He will fit in just fine in an IT office. In a NFL locker room, he's out of place. He doesn't have the balls to play this game aggressively. I don't care if he throws three or four picks, he just needs to be aggressive and willing to test the defense. But he's a rich man's Matt Cassell.

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Matt Ryan was the number 3 overall QB last year per ESPN's new QB rating scale.So this thread is a massive fail. When the coach says "we take what the defense gives us" is where our problems lie. We don't have a killer instinct on this team, it's not the QB. It's endemic throughout our whole team. We need to reconsider our team philosophy, not our 11 win a year QB.

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Matt Ryan was the number 3 overall QB last year per ESPN's new QB rating scale.So this thread is a massive fail. When the coach says "we take what the defense gives us" is where our problems lie. We don't have a killer instinct on this team, it's not the QB. It's endemic throughout our whole team. We need to reconsider our team philosophy, not our 11 win a year QB.

Did you see the list this morning? He was in the twenties. Did you see the list from each game last year, why when we played the better teams with winning records, Matt looked below average? Matt is great v. the Denver's and Miami's of the world but real teams like the Steelers, Packers, Bears, and Eagles give him fits.

The QB is the face of the team right? This QB is suppose to be elite right? This QB is better than guys like Flacco, Vick, Big Ben, Freeman, and some others right? I don't see it. If Ryan had balls, he could be like Troy Aikman but instead he's like Chad Pennington except severally overrated with a much better supporting cast.

He has a:

top 10 RB

Best FB in the NFL

Top 3-5 WR

Elite talent rookie WR

A top 15 slot WR

The GOAT TE of all time

A pro bowl RT

With all that talent, wtf kind of excuses can you make, not much.

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every QB you cited has an offensive line that protects him and gives those QBs adequate time to throw the ball. Matt has to get the ball out in 2.5 seconds (and does!!!!) or he gets his head chopped off.

I'm tired of Matt Ryan getting blamed for his performance when its obvious to anybody with half a brain that watches the games can see that Matty Ice does not have adequate time to throw the ball - and this has been an issue for the entire three years that Matt has been there. To his credit, Matt does not beotch about it.....wish he would sometimes as nobody in media or none of the coaches acknowledges this obvious problem - if Falcons O-Line does not improve dramatically this year - then the long/explosive passing game won't occur this year either.

Just watch the game next week and see how much time Matt has. Then watch the Sunday night and Monday night games and see how much time those QBs have. - My guess is most of the time you will see those QBs have an extra 1-2 seconds to make their throws than Matt does.

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Did you see the list this morning? He was in the twenties. Did you see the list from each game last year, why when we played the better teams with winning records, Matt looked below average? Matt is great v. the Denver's and Miami's of the world but real teams like the Steelers, Packers, Bears, and Eagles give him fits.

The QB is the face of the team right? This QB is suppose to be elite right? This QB is better than guys like Flacco, Vick, Big Ben, Freeman, and some others right? I don't see it. If Ryan had balls, he could be like Troy Aikman but instead he's like Chad Pennington except severally overrated with a much better supporting cast.

He has a:

top 10 RB

Best FB in the NFL

Top 3-5 WR

Elite talent rookie WR

A top 15 slot WR

The GOAT TE of all time

A pro bowl RT

With all that talent, wtf kind of excuses can you make, not much.

when in doubt blame MM

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Did you see the list this morning? He was in the twenties. Did you see the list from each game last year, why when we played the better teams with winning records, Matt looked below average? Matt is great v. the Denver's and Miami's of the world but real teams like the Steelers, Packers, Bears, and Eagles give him fits.

This is called coaching. They need to put together a gameplan that actually works.

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Matt is a dufus. He will fit in just fine in an IT office. In a NFL locker room, he's out of place. He doesn't have the balls to play this game aggressively. I don't care if he throws three or four picks, he just needs to be aggressive and willing to test the defense. But he's a rich man's Matt Cassell.

I agree he needs to let his thang hang low like a real man (pause) but you can eat a **** with that bolded comment.

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Did you see the list this morning? He was in the twenties. Did you see the list from each game last year, why when we played the better teams with winning records, Matt looked below average? Matt is great v. the Denver's and Miami's of the world but real teams like the Steelers, Packers, Bears, and Eagles give him fits.

The QB is the face of the team right? This QB is suppose to be elite right? This QB is better than guys like Flacco, Vick, Big Ben, Freeman, and some others right? I don't see it. If Ryan had balls, he could be like Troy Aikman but instead he's like Chad Pennington except severally overrated with a much better supporting cast.

He has a:

top 10 RB

Best FB in the NFL

Top 3-5 WR

Elite talent rookie WR

A top 15 slot WR

The GOAT TE of all time

A pro bowl RT

With all that talent, wtf kind of excuses can you make, not much.

They don't hear you.

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Matt Ryan was the number 3 overall QB last year per ESPN's new QB rating scale.So this thread is a massive fail. When the coach says "we take what the defense gives us" is where our problems lie. We don't have a killer instinct on this team, it's not the QB. It's endemic throughout our whole team. We need to reconsider our team philosophy, not our 11 win a year QB.

This drives me insane. I want to puke every time I hear one of our coaches or Ryan say that.

This is the NFL, nobody GIVES you anything. Stop saying we take what they give. No you clowns, you go out and make the other team take it. Time to start holding people accountable on this team for not having the sack to take the next step.

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When the coach says "we take what the defense gives us" is where our problems lie.

This drives me insane. I want to puke every time I hear one of our coaches or Ryan say that.

This is the NFL, nobody GIVES you anything. Stop saying we take what they give. No you clowns, you go out and make the other team take it. Time to start holding people accountable on this team for not having the sack to take the next step.

You can tell Matt lives his life like that just by looking at his wife as a multimillionaire in one of the most highly respected positions in sports.

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Ryan just doesn't have the arm to make it to the elite level in this league. You can see it in his eyes, when he's getting ready to chunk it downfield you can tell he knows its going to be a jump ball. People say "I've seen him throw a 60 yarder before, his arm isnt the problem"

You know what? I have a toyota corolla that goes 110 mph, but theres no way in **** it gets there near as fast as my camaro gets to 110. Nobody is saying he can't throw it deep, he just doesn't have the mustard to consistently throw it deeply, accurately and with zip. **** I could probably throw the ball 60 yards doesnt mean I have an NFL arm. Matt Ryan is a game manager and a pretty **** good one. He'll just never be elite because he doesn't have the physical traits to do so. People are so desperate for Vick to fail that they'd prop up anyone. It's sad how blind to the truth people are on this subject. Ryan has every tool he needs at every position. NO QB IN THE LEAGUE has the quality of teammates as he does on offense. Don't blame the line, Vick played yesterday with 4 new olinemen, 2 of them rookies and they still won the game when he was under FAR MORE pressure than Matty Melt saw all day yesterday.

Stop embarrassing yourself by mentioning Ryan in the same category as Brady, Brees, Manning, Rodgers, Big Ben and Vick.

He's down there with Schaub, Freeman, Stafford, Newton, Bradford etc..

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This drives me insane. I want to puke every time I hear one of our coaches or Ryan say that.

This is the NFL, nobody GIVES you anything. Stop saying we take what they give. No you clowns, you go out and make the other team take it. Time to start holding people accountable on this team for not having the sack to take the next step.

"Real dudes do what they want to do, Fake ones do what they can"

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every QB you cited has an offensive line that protects him and gives those QBs adequate time to throw the ball. Matt has to get the ball out in 2.5 seconds (and does!!!!) or he gets his head chopped off.

I'm tired of Matt Ryan getting blamed for his performance when its obvious to anybody with half a brain that watches the games can see that Matty Ice does not have adequate time to throw the ball - and this has been an issue for the entire three years that Matt has been there. To his credit, Matt does not beotch about it.....wish he would sometimes as nobody in media or none of the coaches acknowledges this obvious problem - if Falcons O-Line does not improve dramatically this year - then the long/explosive passing game won't occur this year either.

Just watch the game next week and see how much time Matt has. Then watch the Sunday night and Monday night games and see how much time those QBs have. - My guess is most of the time you will see those QBs have an extra 1-2 seconds to make their throws than Matt does.

Bingo, it's just so much stupidity and envy going on with our fake fans, that they can't understand this. If anything, Matt is better than all of those guys when he's under pressure.

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Did you see the list this morning? He was in the twenties. Did you see the list from each game last year, why when we played the better teams with winning records, Matt looked below average? Matt is great v. the Denver's and Miami's of the world but real teams like the Steelers, Packers, Bears, and Eagles give him fits.

The QB is the face of the team right? This QB is suppose to be elite right? This QB is better than guys like Flacco, Vick, Big Ben, Freeman, and some others right? I don't see it. If Ryan had balls, he could be like Troy Aikman but instead he's like Chad Pennington except severally overrated with a much better supporting cast.

He has a:

top 10 RB

Best FB in the NFL

Top 3-5 WR

Elite talent rookie WR

A top 15 slot WR

The GOAT TE of all time

A pro bowl RT

With all that talent, wtf kind of excuses can you make, not much.

One game moron. Roethlesberger had 7 turnovers, doesn't make him a bad QB. Mike Vick had some ATROCIOUS games with us. I guess that makes him the worst QB ever.

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