ballfan Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It seems to me the Falcon defense is regularly abused by screens when Atlanta D-Line has their ears pinned back. It is a deflating play that can force the D-line to be less aggressive. Instead, Matt Ryan just drops back to the same place with a target on his chest whenever the Falcons are playing from behind. I just don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasher1116 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) As long MM is the OC, our offense will never change.... I do not care what players we have at any position...dink and dunk is the name of his game, and it does NOT work! Edited September 12, 2011 by lasher1116 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylerswinning Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 They need to adjust. Teams should fear a screen to rodgers when he's on the field. That threat alone opens up other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Absconditus Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It was 2006. Michael Vick threw it 9 yards over Warrick Dunn's head. I remember it like it was yesterday because I haven't laughed that hard since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I want to know why the 2 times I saw us put in Qui22, we ran him up the middle as if he was Turner or Snelling. I'm starting to think our play callers don't know how to use our talent. Qui22 needs to be in space, a screen would be perfect for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremedarius Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I want to know why the 2 times I saw us put in Qui22, we ran him up the middle as if he was Turner or Snelling. I'm starting to think our play callers don't know how to use our talent. Qui22 needs to be in space, a screen would be perfect for him.Swing passes, angle routes, plays to get him and other players the ball in space. I always felt that was the issue with our play callers. They just throw people into the fire. Why not run a pitch play, or anything of semblence. Our offense is very 1990s and that will be the downfall of our team.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I want to know why the 2 times I saw us put in Qui22, we ran him up the middle as if he was Turner or Snelling. I'm starting to think our play callers don't know how to use our talent. Qui22 needs to be in space, a screen would be perfect for him.We were coveting a change of pace back since 08 and what do we do...pile drive him into the "D" line. The play-calling after that MT run at the start of the 3rd qtr was an abomination on MM part, and not worthy of NFL caliber players. MM can not run a screen but relentlessly uses the same tired roll out plays. That gadget play with RW was utter garbage and would not have fooled a Div. 2 NCAAF much less a solid NFL "D".We have gone as far as we can with MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 A screen play is very effective against an aggressive defense that blitzes. That's why it works so well against us because when we blitz it's usually with the lb's and corners and no one is left to chase down the screen.Unfortunately I dont think screen passes would have worked against the Bears because they weren't blitzing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballfan Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 A screen play is very effective against an aggressive defense that blitzes. That's why it works so well against us because when we blitz it's usually with the lb's and corners and no one is left to chase down the screen.Unfortunately I dont think screen passes would have worked against the Bears because they weren't blitzing By the 3rd Q the entire Bears d-line was doing nothing but looking for a sack. Peppers was flat out shooting up field. He has played the Falcons for long enough to know he has nothing to worry about, except a run or a 5 step drop. He ogt there as fast as Ryan a couple of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 By the 3rd Q the entire Bears d-line was doing nothing but looking for a sack. Peppers was flat out shooting up field. He has played the Falcons for long enough to know he has nothing to worry about, except a run or a 5 step drop. He ogt there as fast as Ryan a couple of times.Yeah, the D-Line was going nuts but the rest of the guys stayed in coverage so I don't think a screen would have been effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl/0 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Everytime we attempt a screen we lose yards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMan2.0 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGo-Q9Wl3Ecedit: 1:16 mark Edited September 12, 2011 by IronMan2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSSSHHHRRR87 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 I love the concept of making the RB into a receiver. That is what made Snelling an excellent player for us last season. I think screens and flares are the most explosive plays in an offense's repertoire. That's what made Reggie Bush so dangerous for the Saints and Forte & Hester for the Bears yesterday. I think Jacquizz could be that type of guy for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer2 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 HeII, I'm pretty sure the OL thought we were running screens every play based on what I saw. In all seriousness, I remember seeing 2 attempts at screens yesterday. One on a bubble screen to Julio that Peppers tipped and JJ caught anyway for a loss, and another one that at least looked like a screen to either Quizz or Snells that got eaten up by the defense as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theDIRTYcode Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 You'll see plenty of them come Sunday. The best screen team in the league is coming to town. They can work against a 4 man rush too. Bunch the receivers to one side, clear them out to the opposite side of the field taking the defense with them, screen to the bunched side with the RB chipping a DE on a leak that looks like straight pass protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzummo Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What game were you watching? We attempted several screen passes in that game. Snelling dropped two of them. Our backs caught 11 passes yesterday, which is the most I've seen in a VERY long time. Chicago was just very good at snuffing them out. We were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyMoses Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 (edited) Don't blame MM, Knapp, Dan Reeves. . . It goes back to Ranken Smith and the original franchise Charter. As a condition of receiving an expansion franchise in 1966, The Atlanta Falcons National Football League Club was forever prohibited form running screen plays.It's there, look it up.So quit complaining! Would you rather have an NFL team is unable to throw a screen pass, or not have a team at all? Edited September 12, 2011 by holymoses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It's hard to throw screen passes when the pressure is generated by only the front four. The Bears linebackers didn't even have to draw close to the line because we had abandoned the run and all the passes were short Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 What game were you watching? We attempted several screen passes in that game. Snelling dropped two of them. Our backs caught 11 passes yesterday, which is the most I've seen in a VERY long time. Chicago was just very good at snuffing them out. We were not.Seriously. I thought I remembered a couple screens yesterday but I'm not sure. I'll check later. I don't think yall are watching the tapes before you post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 It's hard to throw screen passes when the pressure is generated by only the front four. The Bears linebackers didn't even have to draw close to the line because we had abandoned the run and all the passes were short^^This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconfanEST1989 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Seriously. I thought I remembered a couple screens yesterday but I'm not sure. I'll check later. I don't think yall are watching the tapes before you post.nope those were just check downs cause MM had every available wr/te running deep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 They used a LCD screen to play Madden last week i heard.... Not sure if its true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 nope those were just check downs cause MM had every available wr/te running deepNo I some some screens yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballfan Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 No I some some screens yesterday.I don't doubt you, but a short pass to a RB or WR is not necessarily a screen pass. I never saw anything that looked like a well executed screen pass with blockers. Just dump-offs very late with no blocking at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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