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Matt ryan got blown out how cause he couldnt keep up in a shoot out his defense put him in.....tell me the logic in that

there is no logic in it, and he hasn't responded to any of the several posts where he's been called out on that

I agree that Ryan needs to work on his postseason play, it wasn't exactly good..but he's acting like Vick had some great game vs GB, which he didn't..not much better than Ryan really

I can't fathom how he actually thinks the difference in 21 and 48 points given up has to do with Vick or Ryan..Ryan threw a pic 6 sure, but its still 41-21..thats why it was a blowout

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They have a better overall defense and return game than us.

their dline compared to ours is about equal although Peppers is better than Abe, only homers think otherwise. I think we have the better secondary, but what they do have is a way better linebacker core than we do.

Hester ***** on Weems. enough said.

Offensively We have a the upperhand. Better line play, they haven't shown any run game to speak of, receiving core is blah and they lost Olsen. Not to mention you never know what your gonna get from Cutler week to week.

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I'll give Peppers nod over Abraham. (If Peppers is a 10, then Abraham is a 9)

I'll give Urlacher nod over Lofton (If Urlacher is a 10, then Lofton is a 8.5)

I'll give Briggs nod over Nicholas. (If Briggs is a 10, then Nicholas is a 8)

And I'll give their punter over our punter.

So, that's 4 positions out of a possible 11 on offense, 11 more on def and kicker and punter.

And it's not Nov/Dec in Chicago yet, so there goes home field advantage.

That's why the Falcons win this week.

Wow, some are clueless here. Weather is not the only thing that gives a team "HFA." You're really reaching there.

Can't wait for Sunday!

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Chicago's entire Front 7 is without question significantly better than Atlanta's. I mean its not even close. Briggs and Urlacher are outstanding LBs and the Falcons simply don't have any LB that is even close to those guys. Peppers is definitely better than Abraham and overall that DL is much more disruptive than Atlanta's.

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I will agree with this. They play together because they have been together. Tillman, Harris, Urlacher, Briggs, Roach have been there for how long?! They are all 30 plus except Roach. The only pieces fairly new are Peppers, Wright, Okoye, Melton, Jennings. The strength of their D is the LBs, similar to ours. But Tillman and Harris aren't to be taken lightly. Wright and Jennings won't be able to hold Julio, HD and Tony.

i thought they got rid of tommy harris... either way we beat that defense two yrs in a row... why not three times lol.. but it still wnt be easy

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3700 yards, 28 tds, and 9 picks is managing games?

We dont have to depend on our run game anymore, we did draft a guy like Julio, to go alomg with Roddy, HD, and Tony.

3700 yards off 571 attempts for 6.5 YPA and 1-3 record in games Turner failed to rush for 50 yards. Sounds like a game manager to me. Ryan mostly converts 3rd and short and definitely isn't up there with the likes of the elite QBs when it comes to being relied on to generate offense through the air and convert 3rd and long. He's pretty much a game manager. The playoff game pretty much exposed that. When Ryan was now being relied on to carry the offense that had abandoned the run game he was a non-factor. Moreso he was actually a liability. A QB that is a liability when being asked to carry the offense is a game manager.

I don't know what games you've been watching that would indicate that he is anything but that. The Falcons do well when Turner is getting yards on the ground. If not, they struggle mightily most of the time. I know somebody will post the game log for the Ravens game but that was just one game and his stats weren't even all that great. Ryan hasn't proven he can win without a run game so I will have to agree with the Bears fan. If some of you folks can's see that Chicago clearly has a better defensive Front 7 I really don't know what to tell you. That defensive Front 7 scares opposing offenses. The Falcons, not so much.

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3700 yards off 571 attempts for 6.5 YPA and 1-3 record in games Turner failed to rush for 50 yards. Sounds like a game manager to me. Ryan mostly converts 3rd and short and definitely isn't up there with the likes of the elite QBs when it comes to being relied on to generate offense through the air and convert 3rd and long. He's pretty much a game manager. The playoff game pretty much exposed that. When Ryan was now being relied on to carry the offense that had abandoned the run game he was a non-factor. Moreso he was actually a liability. A QB that is a liability when being asked to carry the offense is a game manager.

I don't know what games you've been watching that would indicate that he is anything but that. The Falcons do well when Turner is getting yards on the ground. If not, they struggle mightily most of the time. I know somebody will post the game log for the Ravens game but that was just one game and his stats weren't even all that great. Ryan hasn't proven he can win without a run game so I will have to agree with the Bears fan. If some of you folks can's see that Chicago clearly has a better defensive Front 7 I really don't know what to tell you. That defensive Front 7 scares opposing offenses. The Falcons, not so much.

Even though he hasn't done it much since 08, man in '08 Ryan completed a bunchhhhhhhhhhhhh of 3rd and longs to the point where I wasn't worried about the down and distance on 3rd down. I hope he gets back to that form.

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3700 yards off 571 attempts for 6.5 YPA and 1-3 record in games Turner failed to rush for 50 yards. Sounds like a game manager to me. Ryan mostly converts 3rd and short and definitely isn't up there with the likes of the elite QBs when it comes to being relied on to generate offense through the air and convert 3rd and long. He's pretty much a game manager. The playoff game pretty much exposed that. When Ryan was now being relied on to carry the offense that had abandoned the run game he was a non-factor. Moreso he was actually a liability. A QB that is a liability when being asked to carry the offense is a game manager.

I don't know what games you've been watching that would indicate that he is anything but that. The Falcons do well when Turner is getting yards on the ground. If not, they struggle mightily most of the time. I know somebody will post the game log for the Ravens game but that was just one game and his stats weren't even all that great. Ryan hasn't proven he can win without a run game so I will have to agree with the Bears fan. If some of you folks can's see that Chicago clearly has a better defensive Front 7 I really don't know what to tell you. That defensive Front 7 scares opposing offenses. The Falcons, not so much.

I love it when people spout off at the mouth without knowing what they are talking about. I picked the top 3 QB's and Cutler to compare 3rd and long statistics. Ryan has the most yards on 3rd and 6+, highest ypa, and highest completion % of all of them. On 8-10 yards he has the highest completion percentage and 2nd most yards. On 11+ he has the 2nd highest completion percentage, most yards, and second highest ypa. He's the only QB with 60+ completion % in all 3 scenarios.

Matt Ryan

3rd and 6+ - 71/115, 61.7% completion, 874 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 29/45, 64.4% completion, 344 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/31, 61.3% completion, 277 yards, 8.9 ypa

Tom Brady

3rd and 6+ - 50/91, 54.9% completion, 688 yards, 7.56 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 17/28, 60.7% completion, 276 yards, 9.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/33, 57.6% completion, 245 yards, 7.5 ypa

Aaron Rodgers

3rd and 6+ - 43/70, 61.4% completion, 516 yards, 7.4 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 12/24, 50% completion, 206 yards, 8.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/25, 76% completion, 176 yards, 7.0 ypa

Peyton Manning

3rd and 6+ - 55/94, 58.5% completion, 702 yards, 7.5 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 30/47, 63.8% completion, 376 yards, 8.0 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 9/20, 45% completion, 176 yards, 8.8 ypa

Jay Cutler

3rd and 6+ - 43/76, 56.6% completion, 522 yards, 6.9 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 15/34, 44.1% completion, 168 yards, 4.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 13/23, 56.5% completion, 210 yards, 9.1 ypa

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I love it when people spout off at the mouth without knowing what they are talking about. I picked the top 3 QB's and Cutler to compare 3rd and long statistics. Ryan has the most yards on 3rd and 6+, highest ypa, and highest completion % of all of them. On 8-10 yards he has the highest completion percentage and 2nd most yards. On 11+ he has the 2nd highest completion percentage, most yards, and second highest ypa. He's the only QB with 60+ completion % in all 3 scenarios.

Matt Ryan

3rd and 6+ - 71/115, 61.7% completion, 874 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 29/45, 64.4% completion, 344 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/31, 61.3% completion, 277 yards, 8.9 ypa

Tom Brady

3rd and 6+ - 50/91, 54.9% completion, 688 yards, 7.56 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 17/28, 60.7% completion, 276 yards, 9.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/33, 57.6% completion, 245 yards, 7.5 ypa

Aaron Rodgers

3rd and 6+ - 43/70, 61.4% completion, 516 yards, 7.4 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 12/24, 50% completion, 206 yards, 8.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/25, 76% completion, 176 yards, 7.0 ypa

Peyton Manning

3rd and 6+ - 55/94, 58.5% completion, 702 yards, 7.5 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 30/47, 63.8% completion, 376 yards, 8.0 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 9/20, 45% completion, 176 yards, 8.8 ypa

Jay Cutler

3rd and 6+ - 43/76, 56.6% completion, 522 yards, 6.9 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 15/34, 44.1% completion, 168 yards, 4.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 13/23, 56.5% completion, 210 yards, 9.1 ypa

Killin' em.

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Here's how those guys measure up on 3rd downs overall, regardless of distance. Looks to me like Matt Ryan measures up pretty well to the elite QB's.

Matt Ryan

114/180, 63.3% completion, 1326 yards, 7.4 ypa, 15 TD's, 4 INT's, 104.1 QB Rating

Tom Brady

83/137, 60.7% completion, 1193 yards, 8.7 ypa, 15 TD's, 2 INT's, 119.3 QB Rating

Peyton Manning

94/159, 59.1% completion, 997 yards, 6.3 ypa, 7 TD's, 8 INT's, 71.2 QB Rating

Aaron Rodgers

73/125, 58.4% completion, 917 yards, 7.3 ypa, 11 TD's, 5 INT's, 94.0 QB Rating

Jay Cutler

67/116, 57.8% completion, 814 yards. 7.0 ypa, 6 TD's, 6 INT's, 75.1 QB Rating

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Chicago's entire Front 7 is without question significantly better than Atlanta's. I mean its not even close. Briggs and Urlacher are outstanding LBs and the Falcons simply don't have any LB that is even close to those guys. Peppers is definitely better than Abraham and overall that DL is much more disruptive than Atlanta's.

Chicago does not have DLmen better then Babs and Abe and PFF would agree.

Chicago's defense in all the other positions is aging and on the decline (opposite of ATL).

The gap is narrower than you think and closing.

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Um... Someone has been watching too much ESPN.

There is no question Abe is a better passrusher than Julius Peppers.

45 sacks vs. 35 in the last 4 years.

Abe is also underrated against the run.

PFF agrees that Abe is the better DE.

PFF DE Ranking

Abe is better. Abe is the best in the league.

Can rush equally well from left and right side.

Can bull rush or speed rush.

Can rush equally well inside, outside, or through his opponent.

Long arms and excellent hand work allows him to beat his opponent without time consuming maneuvers such as spin move ie. gets straight to qb with minimal wasted motion.

Is miscategorized as being injury prone due to the fact the he does things (tossing OL around like rag dolls) that even the elite athletes his size could not dream of doing to begin with.

Overall categorization: Predator.

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Matt Ryan is already the best 3rd down (and 4th down) QB in the league. I haven't seen a QB as good in the 2 minute, **** 1 minute drill since Elway. Matt already has the hardest parts of being an elite QB down pat. Once the deep pass opens up, and he improves his accuracy on deep throws, he will be up there with Brady and Manning. I have no doubt about it. Cutler and Vick don't have a prayer of even coming close to being the QB Matt will be, not because of they lack the physical gifts, far from it, but because they are of poor character and inferior football intelligence.

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Abe is better. Abe is the best in the league.

Can rush equally well from left and right side.

Can bull rush or speed rush.

Can rush equally well inside, outside, or through his opponent.

Long arms and excellent hand work allows him to beat his opponent without time consuming maneuvers such as spin move ie. gets straight to qb with minimal wasted motion.

Overall categorization: Predator.

Agreed.

In fact I will take Ray Edwards over Peppers at this point in their respective careers.

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I love it when people spout off at the mouth without knowing what they are talking about. I picked the top 3 QB's and Cutler to compare 3rd and long statistics. Ryan has the most yards on 3rd and 6+, highest ypa, and highest completion % of all of them. On 8-10 yards he has the highest completion percentage and 2nd most yards. On 11+ he has the 2nd highest completion percentage, most yards, and second highest ypa. He's the only QB with 60+ completion % in all 3 scenarios.

Matt Ryan

3rd and 6+ - 71/115, 61.7% completion, 874 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 29/45, 64.4% completion, 344 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/31, 61.3% completion, 277 yards, 8.9 ypa

Tom Brady

3rd and 6+ - 50/91, 54.9% completion, 688 yards, 7.56 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 17/28, 60.7% completion, 276 yards, 9.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/33, 57.6% completion, 245 yards, 7.5 ypa

Aaron Rodgers

3rd and 6+ - 43/70, 61.4% completion, 516 yards, 7.4 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 12/24, 50% completion, 206 yards, 8.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/25, 76% completion, 176 yards, 7.0 ypa

Peyton Manning

3rd and 6+ - 55/94, 58.5% completion, 702 yards, 7.5 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 30/47, 63.8% completion, 376 yards, 8.0 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 9/20, 45% completion, 176 yards, 8.8 ypa

Jay Cutler

3rd and 6+ - 43/76, 56.6% completion, 522 yards, 6.9 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 15/34, 44.1% completion, 168 yards, 4.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 13/23, 56.5% completion, 210 yards, 9.1 ypa

these numbers do not account for the situation in a game... how about looking at his numbers in the divisional playoff game that you guys lost...

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I love it when people spout off at the mouth without knowing what they are talking about. I picked the top 3 QB's and Cutler to compare 3rd and long statistics. Ryan has the most yards on 3rd and 6+, highest ypa, and highest completion % of all of them. On 8-10 yards he has the highest completion percentage and 2nd most yards. On 11+ he has the 2nd highest completion percentage, most yards, and second highest ypa. He's the only QB with 60+ completion % in all 3 scenarios.

Matt Ryan

3rd and 6+ - 71/115, 61.7% completion, 874 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 29/45, 64.4% completion, 344 yards, 7.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/31, 61.3% completion, 277 yards, 8.9 ypa

Tom Brady

3rd and 6+ - 50/91, 54.9% completion, 688 yards, 7.56 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 17/28, 60.7% completion, 276 yards, 9.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/33, 57.6% completion, 245 yards, 7.5 ypa

Aaron Rodgers

3rd and 6+ - 43/70, 61.4% completion, 516 yards, 7.4 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 12/24, 50% completion, 206 yards, 8.6 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 19/25, 76% completion, 176 yards, 7.0 ypa

Peyton Manning

3rd and 6+ - 55/94, 58.5% completion, 702 yards, 7.5 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 30/47, 63.8% completion, 376 yards, 8.0 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 9/20, 45% completion, 176 yards, 8.8 ypa

Jay Cutler

3rd and 6+ - 43/76, 56.6% completion, 522 yards, 6.9 ypa

3rd and 8-10 yards - 15/34, 44.1% completion, 168 yards, 4.9 ypa

3rd and 11+ - 13/23, 56.5% completion, 210 yards, 9.1 ypa

Headshot. Go back to your igloo strat.

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