#1 pick Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 What are your thoughts? I believe OU, OSU, Texas, and TT will go to the Pac 12 to become the Pac 16. KU, Mizzou, and KSU have an invite from the Big East but I think Mizzou might just get in the SEC as the 14th team. KU and KSU should end up in the Big East. Texas A&M is almost a lock to be in the SEC soon. Baylor and Iowa State should be the odd men out. I can see them joining the Mountain West. I don't see the Big East adding more than three teams. So it could be possible that Baylor might get in to the Big East. Iowa State is most likely going to the Mtn West. % Staying/BigXII Big East Pac 12 Mtn West SECTexas 40 0 60 0 0OU 40 0 60 0 0 OSU 40 0 60 0 0TT 40 0 60 0 0 Mizzou 30 30 0 0 40KU 40 55 0 5 0 KSU 40 55 0 5 0 ISU 60 5 0 35 0 Baylor 50 20 0 30 0 Texas A&M 0 0 10 0 90I think Auburn will be moved to the SEC East. Meaning SEC East:AuburnUGAUFVandyUKUTUSCSEC West:BamaTexas A&MMizzouMiss StOle MissArkyLSUUnsure about the Big East. It wouldn't make sense to add three teams but I know they will add two teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 the only way texas goes to the pac-12 is if they allow them to keep their own network and i don't see that happening. texas will go independent and not going to another conference. so i would take out texas in your alignment discussion.. they really have no need for a conference once they let the big 12 disintegrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 the only way texas goes to the pac-12 is if they allow them to keep their own network and i don't see that happening. texas will go independent and not going to another conference. so i would take out texas in your alignment discussion.. they really have no need for a conference once they let the big 12 disintegrate.Texas will get as much money as they do from their own network and OU is playing their hand to get Texas to drop the network. Right now, OU is the one playing their cards and no, the PAC 12 will not allow Texas to bring the LHN with them. Texas will not go independent since OU has made it clear that they will not play them if they do. Texas has nothing to gain being independent if no one wants to play them. OU is the one playing their hand, Texas just did their part to destroy the Big XII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 Texas will get as much money as they do from their own network and OU is playing their hand to get Texas to drop the network. Right now, OU is the one playing their cards and no, the PAC 12 will not allow Texas to bring the LHN with them. Texas will not go independent since OU has made it clear that they will not play them if they do. Texas has nothing to gain being independent if no one wants to play them. OU is the one playing their hand, Texas just did their part to destroy the Big XII.this is where we don't agree man.. texas doesn't care what oklahoma says or does.. texas is all about texas.. you should know by now their mentality.. they allow the big 12 to exist, but that is only temporary.. they won't go to the pac-16 at all because they have no need for a conference. they will be able to afford to pay as does notre dame for a schedule being an independent.. texas will not be in a conference imo so i would remove them and add a different team that will join the pac-16.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItDownHomeCuz Posted September 4, 2011 Share Posted September 4, 2011 I personally don't like it, I'm a traditionalist and to be honest no matter if every conference added new teams no matter what teams they add and the SEC just stayed the same the SEC would still be the best conference. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 4, 2011 Author Share Posted September 4, 2011 this is where we don't agree man.. texas doesn't care what oklahoma says or does.. texas is all about texas.. you should know by now their mentality.. they allow the big 12 to exist, but that is only temporary.. they won't go to the pac-16 at all because they have no need for a conference. they will be able to afford to pay as does notre dame for a schedule being an independent.. texas will not be in a conference imo so i would remove them and add a different team that will join the pac-16..Texas will have to start caring. Finding 12 opponent will be hard as **** if no one wants to play you. Ask BYU. Notre Dame is different, they have one of the largest footholds in college football. Texas doesn't. If OU won't play you, then why become an Independent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted September 5, 2011 Share Posted September 5, 2011 Texas will have to start caring. Finding 12 opponent will be hard as **** if no one wants to play you. Ask BYU. Notre Dame is different, they have one of the largest footholds in college football. Texas doesn't. If OU won't play you, then why become an Independent?i don't disagree i think they should care, but texas doesn't. they aren't hurting for money at all so that will not be a motivating factor and they will be able to buy themselves a schedule with the money they bring into their athletic department. i am sure they will research setting up their schedule before they make that big move, but i just don't see them going to the pac-12 and the pac-12 (16) won't change their rules just for texas.. texas wants it all and they won't get that in the pac-16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted 1981 Posted September 6, 2011 Share Posted September 6, 2011 The one factor that can/will change Texas and Notre Dame is when the shift changes to 4 Mega Conferences of 16 or 18 teams, eliminating both the Big 12 and either the Big East or The ACC (depending what ncaa does with Miami). The next natural progression will be to a 16 team playoff with 4 teams from each conference qualifying. Thus any independent that wants to be included will be forced into a conference. With any luck we will find someway to eliminate or reduce the ncaa from college football turning control/administration over to a new body directly reporting to the conferences. The ncaa has destroyed any creditability they once had and has become a governing body bogged down in self righteous indignation. There rule book is starting to make the IRS Tax Code look simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 I am going to write a blog about this situation and probably make a video. If you want a link to my site just PM me. I will get on it tomorrow. Probably 5 to 10 mins video for now with a summary blog. I will talk about the different conferences, the landscape of college FB and how will this effect the ACC where there seems to be an agreement to stay put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 i saw some journalists on twitter talk about tonight's sec vote to take the sec and how the college landscape has completely changed. it was quite amazing how the lamented it, but it's clear you are going to have a lot of big changes and IMO it will happen faster than many expect. i also expect a basketball only conference to come out of the big east left overs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1 pick Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 i saw some journalists on twitter talk about tonight's sec vote to take the sec and how the college landscape has completely changed. it was quite amazing how the lamented it, but it's clear you are going to have a lot of big changes and IMO it will happen faster than many expect. i also expect a basketball only conference to come out of the big east left overs.I felt like the landscape was changed forever when Texas A&M seriously said they wanted out. That forced everyone hand. It really took the cards out of Texas hands then into the hands of OU. It was easy. You drop the network and we will stay in the Big XII or we will leave. That forced Texas hand as they had no leverage. They had to do what OU wanted them to do or follow them to the Pac 12 which is still what OU wants to a degree. Texas screwed the conference up and now the dominoes will fall. The ACC wants to stay put, that contract they signed is very lucrative and the big players like FSU and Clemson aren't going to be invited to the SEC anyway. I will write this in a more precise format tomorrow. It's time for me to go to sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I felt like the landscape was changed forever when Texas A&M seriously said they wanted out. That forced everyone hand. It really took the cards out of Texas hands then into the hands of OU. It was easy. You drop the network and we will stay in the Big XII or we will leave. That forced Texas hand as they had no leverage. They had to do what OU wanted them to do or follow them to the Pac 12 which is still what OU wants to a degree. Texas screwed the conference up and now the dominoes will fall. The ACC wants to stay put, that contract they signed is very lucrative and the big players like FSU and Clemson aren't going to be invited to the SEC anyway. I will write this in a more precise format tomorrow. It's time for me to go to sleep.the landscape truly changed imo when nebraska left for the big 10, colorado left the pac-12, and missouri was dying to get out of the big 12. at that point you knew the big 12 was not going to last. i remember saying on this board last year that the big 12 would not last because they put one team above their conference which is what they did in their agreement. as mike slive said that is not a healthy situation and it's a big reason why all of the sec teams get an equal share. what a&m did was what they were going to do last year before they caved in once they were offered more money, but the longhorn network ended it all and then all of the teams in the conference found out texas lied to them about their agreement with espn. broadcast partner of the sec instructed them if they do add teams to do it in new markets, not any existing markets they are currently in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 They can start their own Conference. "The Lone Star" only one team. Maybe they can play in the FCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconDawg Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 KU and KSt. to the Big East just doesn't make since to me. Why not to the BIG 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHav Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 The only thing about Auburn moving to the East is what will Bama do with UT and Auburn rivalry? Would we keep playing both and only rotate one other East team into our schedule every two years or drop one rivalry and keep the traditional rotation of two east teams every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clemumo82 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 There have been some rumblings about Texas wanting to go to the ACC. No idea who would come with them, but that would be very interesting and an excellent move by the ACC if so.Now, about the LHN, why would anyone in the ACC care about it? AFAIK, they won't be showing conference football or basketball. They can show Texas vs ACC soccer, tennis, and tiddlywinks to people in Texas if they want. Likewise with Texas high school football. How does a network showing Texas high school football affect programs up and down the East Coast.The ACC gets a premier football program (yes, last season sucked, but 2 NCG showing in the last six is a HUGE step up for the ACC) in Texas, solidifies any questions about being a BCS conference, and allows renegotiation over the current TV deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 (edited) from what I heard/ read:SEC:Louisville- EastTexas AM- WestPac:TexasTexas TechOklahomaOklahoma St.remaining teams in Big 12:BaylorIowa St.KansasKansas St.Missouriconferences in the area of the big 12:Conference USAMountain WestSun BeltWAC Edited September 14, 2011 by Kennesaw77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTA Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 from what I heard/ read:SEC:Louisville- EastWhere are you hearing/reading this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumpjumper Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Louisville has been rumored, but I'm not sure Kentucky will let Louisville in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 Where are you hearing/reading this?I heard from a friend who either read an article or knew a guy who was actually in the room. So if you believe it it's a guy that was actually in the room.You may be wondering why Louisville like I was.According to him:basketballrivalry with Kentucky.not an ACC schoolLouisville has been rumored, but I'm not sure Kentucky will let Louisville in....why would they not let them in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Guy Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If i'm correct it would be a recruiting thing. Right now Kentucky can say they are in the SEC and use that against Louisville. If Louiseville joins UK can no longer claim they are the only Univ. In the state to play in the SEC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennesaw77 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 If i'm correct it would be a recruiting thing. Right now Kentucky can say they are in the SEC and use that against Louisville. If Louiseville joins UK can no longer claim they are the only Univ. In the state to play in the SECYeah that's true. Some good points there. Although I will say idk how much sway Kentucky has on what the rest of the SEC do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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