Owens

[Noles1985!]

Ok first off dont need to be flamesprayed for this cause live in a region that am only blessed to have seen the Chargers play on a regular basis, but it seems to me that owens has no ball skills and has the same problem that another very talented db that we had in houston in that he forgets that he has to turn around and that he has safety help over the top which is something that grimes understands even being the udfa he was. JMO any incite from the ppl in atl is greatly appreciated. Also i know this doesn't involve owens but does reynolds get blown back like that on a regular basis like he did last night in the 1st quarter.

Edited August 20, 2011 by Noles1985!

[The Birds are the truth]

Always getting toast on the field.

[Fabs0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddLRU4VpfU&feature=related

Not turning his head around. Yeah, right.

The Owens' hate is still ridicoulos. Don't get me wrong, he sucked bad last year and I'm probably as bitter as anyone about the GB loss. Owens was a big part of it, and it was too much to handle for him. As was the Bengals game. I mean, he got toasted.

Still, I have to admit that he simply outplayed Franks this preseason. It's not even funny that some people want to pencil in Walls as the nickle back... Please, start watching games with a little bit of objectivity.

Edited August 20, 2011 by Fabs0

[Noles1985!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddLRU4VpfU&feature=related

Not turning his head around. Yeah, right.

The Owens' hate is still ridicoulos. Don't get me wrong, he sucked bad last year and I'm probably as bitter as anyone about the GB loss. Owens was a big part of it, and it was too much to handle for him. As was the Bengals game. I mean, he got toasted.

Still, I have to admit that he simply outplayed Franks this preseason. It's not even funny that some people want to pencil in Walls as the nickle back... Please, start watching games with a little bit of objectivity.

i do and go back to when abe dropped in to bracket coverage with him and he had safety help over the top last night and had a pick but decided not to turn around and pray that the wr dropped it fortunately he did

[M0D3RNW4RR10R]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddLRU4VpfU&feature=related

Not turning his head around. Yeah, right.

The Owens' hate is still ridicoulos. Don't get me wrong, he sucked bad last year and I'm probably as bitter as anyone about the GB loss. Owens was a big part of it, and it was too much to handle for him. As was the Bengals game. I mean, he got toasted.

Still, I have to admit that he simply outplayed Franks this preseason. It's not even funny that some people want to pencil in Walls as the nickle back... Please, start watching games with a little bit of objectivity.

Crisp Owens got extremely lucky on that play. He was getting burned, but the quarterback under threw it.

BTW check out who the quarterback is.

Edited August 20, 2011 by M0D3RNW4RR10R

[The Birds are the truth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddLRU4VpfU&feature=related

Not turning his head around. Yeah, right.

The Owens' hate is still ridicoulos. Don't get me wrong, he sucked bad last year and I'm probably as bitter as anyone about the GB loss. Owens was a big part of it, and it was too much to handle for him. As was the Bengals game. I mean, he got toasted.

Still, I have to admit that he simply outplayed Franks this preseason. It's not even funny that some people want to pencil in Walls as the nickle back... Please, start watching games with a little bit of objectivity.

Truth be told I don't want Franks, Owens, Wells, or Belgrave. But "hey" if either of these guys win the job, I have no choice but to roll with the punches because TD is the one that has the last say so. Still doesn't change from Owens getting abused on the regular.

[Noles1985!]

exactly it seems that he either stares in the backfield or doesn't turn his head at all neither one is good at that position

[The Birds are the truth]

Crisp Owens got extremely lucky on that play. He was getting burned, but the quarterback under threw it.

BTW check out who the quarterback is.

Exactlty. Brian Brohm.

[Noles1985!]

i'll give franks a fair shake if not for injury his skill set was in the top 2 rounds in the draft

[The Birds are the truth]

i'll give franks a fair shake if not for injury his skill set was in the top 2 rounds in the draft

I just suspect a little bit better from him the next game.

[Noles1985!]

yeah me too, but after a while i believe that fans need to take a look at the db coach imo. if you can't get these kids to understand turning around is the key then what are you coaching. Bring in primetime arthur and let him loose he taught the entire braves team when he was there the nuances of base stealing dont see why he can't do the same at a position he hof'ed in. Just food for thought

[Voice of Reason]

Okay. I'm starting to see now. If Owens has a good play, he was lucky. But if Franks has a bad play, it's okay because his skill set was "ranked" higher and he's still young.

Okay, got it now.

[The Birds are the truth]

Bring me home TD.

[Noles1985!]

Okay. I'm starting to see now. If Owens has a good play, he was lucky. But if Franks has a bad play, it's okay because his skill set was "ranked" higher and he's still young.

Okay, got it now.

no not exactly but it the qb gets the ball out there owens is burnt again but instead the ball was under thrown and it was a pic. Yeah skill set has a lot to do with it; it does owens has had time to prove himself and hasn't done $hit whereas franks hasn't let the kid who has a better skill set have the chance you know what you are getting with owens but not with franks

[Peyton]

Owens has a lot more problems than just ball skills.

[paulitik]

Owens has a lot more problems than just ball skills.

Yeah, like crazy women who trash their own places and blame it on him.

Dude has some issues.

[DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry]

He's struggling out there....and its unfortunate because I really like him as a player.

Last night he got burned up on at least two routes right up the seam where the receiver had him beat inside the whole time and was able to get open for 20 yard gains. Those are the types of plays that extend drives, convert long third downs and cause severe damage to the defense.

I don't think he's hopeless or anything like that....but I wasn't impressed last night. If he wants that nickel spot, he's gotta step up.

[Ohio Dirty Bird]

Relax he will be cut before the season starts

Edited August 20, 2011 by Ohio Dirty Bird

[Noles1985!]

Idk about that but prolly ne pushed down to dime or less cornerback

[Jp7833]

If you're going to have girls nearly kissing in your signature, at the very least make them 7.5's or 8's. I wouldnt touch that girl on the left with my E-pen i s.

[Noles1985!]

Thanks for the owens info...

[vel]

[M0D3RNW4RR10R]

Crisp Owens got extremely lucky on that play. He was getting burned, but the quarterback under threw it.

BTW check out who the quarterback is.

Owens was in great position on that play. You clearly are just talking out the side of your neck. I attached a picture to disprove this ludicrous statement. Owens was in TO's hip pocket the whole route. The picture shows he is breaking off to make the play on the ball but is parallel with TO. Also, everybody rejoices how Franks got his INT against the Cards yet Max Hall is significantly worse than Brohm.

[Voice of Reason]

Okay. I'm starting to see now. If Owens has a good play, he was lucky. But if Franks has a bad play, it's okay because his skill set was "ranked" higher and he's still young.

Okay, got it now.

This is because people's feelings are hurt and need someone to point the finger at for the GB game. They can't move on. To them, Franks is young and has time to improve but Owens is a 7 year vet and shouldn't be struggling.

[Peyton]

Owens has a lot more problems than just ball skills.

I don't agree. He is mental lapses like most young players. Yes he doesn't have elite ball skills like Grimes but I wouldn't say that is his problem.

[DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry]

Last night he got burned up on at least two routes right up the seam where the receiver had him beat inside the whole time and was able to get open for 20 yard gains. Those are the types of plays that extend drives, convert long third downs and cause severe damage to the defense.

Owens gave up one play longer than 10 yards if I remember correctly and it was a well run route. The WR ran slightly outside to push Owens towards the sideline then cut in underneath him, boxing him out from the ball. Very difficult to defend. Julio did this multiple times to Patrick Peterson.

Half of you have no reason/proof as to why you don't like Owens besides the GB and Cincy game. He gave up 1 TD on a miscommunication play this PS so far. Yet that is not good while you clamor for Franks, who did not have a good showing against the Jags, whom you also said they have terrible WRs and if Owens is burnt by them, he needs to be cut. Too much of a double standard and no objectivity. Owens didn't allow a catch until :56 seconds let in the 2nd quarter. So yes, peyton, he was with the first team for more than 6 plays this time and didn't allow anything. Franks was picked on last night but none of yall want to admit that just like you don't want to admit Owens had a solid game. I am not crowning him the nickel nor the better player as this was just one game and a preseason one at that, but to discredit him for his performance is while watering down Franks' struggles is asinine.

[Peyton]

[b}Owens gave up one play longer than 10 yards if I remember correctly and it was a well run route. The WR ran slightly outside to push Owens towards the sideline then cut in underneath him, boxing him out from the ball. Very difficult to defend. Julio did this multiple times to Patrick Peterson.

Half of you have no reason/proof as to why you don't like Owens besides the GB and Cincy game. He gave up 1 TD on a miscommunication play this PS so far. Yet that is not good while you clamor for Franks, who did not have a good showing against the Jags, whom you also said they have terrible WRs and if Owens is burnt by them, he needs to be cut. Too much of a double standard and no objectivity. Owens didn't allow a catch until :56 seconds let in the 2nd quarter. So yes, peyton, he was with the first team for more than 6 plays this time and didn't allow anything. Franks was picked on last night but none of yall want to admit that just like you don't want to admit Owens had a solid game. I am not crowning him the nickel nor the better player as this was just one game and a preseason one at that, but to discredit him for his performance is while watering down Franks' struggles is asinine.

Actually, you are just wrong, wrong, wrong.

Owens didn't start and the Falcons weren't in nickel much at all in the first half. He played a lot more in the second half, but he wasn't in the nickel except for maybe one play in the second half.

And Owens gave up a 28 yard in and a 19 yard in to two guys I never heard of in my life, who probably won't be in this league in two weeks.

[vel]

Actually, you are just wrong, wrong, wrong.

Owens didn't start and the Falcons weren't in nickel much at all in the first half. He played a lot more in the second half, but he wasn't in the nickel except for maybe one play.

And Owens gave up a 28 yard in and a 19 yard in to two guys I never heard of in my life, who probably won't be in this league in two weeks.

Ok 2 passes. Where was his safety help? He wasn't in man. Both were posts/skinny posts. I am pretty sure there should have been a safety in the area. BVG doesn't run Cover 0. You can't expect the corner to win 100% of his battles. Yes they are guys you never heard of, but nobody knew Grimes outside of Atlanta before 09. Nobody knew Sam Shields last year. Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't equate to a valid point as to why he should not be able to make a play. You didn't know Walls before we brought him in. I guess he shouldn't be able to make plays huh?

Yes, Owens didn't start but he didn't start last game neither. When we went nickel, Owens man was nowhere to be found. He gave nothing up until :56 and that was a short route. Sometimes he was inside, sometimes he was outside. But in the first two quarters of play, you have nothing to say about Owens. That's a fact.

So no I am not wrong wrong wrong.

[Peyton]

Ok 2 passes. Where was his safety help? He wasn't in man. Both were posts/skinny posts. I am pretty sure there should have been a safety in the area. BVG doesn't run Cover 0. You can't expect the corner to win 100% of his battles. Yes they are guys you never heard of, but nobody knew Grimes outside of Atlanta before 09. Nobody knew Sam Shields last year. Just because you haven't heard of them doesn't equate to a valid point as to why he should not be able to make a play. You didn't know Walls before we brought him in. I guess he shouldn't be able to make plays huh?

Yes, Owens didn't start but he didn't start last game neither. When we went nickel, Owens man was nowhere to be found. He gave nothing up until :56 and that was a short route. Sometimes he was inside, sometimes he was outside. But in the first two quarters of play, you have nothing to say about Owens. That's a fact.

So no I am not wrong wrong wrong.

He was in man the second time. The first time the throw was right in his zone, and he was beat. Schillinger rocked him when he caught it, which is the only good thing I've ever seen Schillinger do.

The guys who beat Owens last night were Jamar Newsome and Dontrelle Inman.

These two guys have four things in common. The first thing is that they are both rookies. The second thing is that neither is drafted. The third thing is that they are both currently listed as 4th string on the depth chart. The 4th thing is that both caught their pass from another rookie.

I bet Chris Owens is the first veteran in NFL history to get beat on deep ins twice in a game by undrafted free agent rookies that are 7th and 8th on the depth chart and being thrown the ball by another rookie.

Has to be.