Mike Mularkey is just not getting it done.

[Tandy]

I do know the history, so spare the lesson.

The fact that we are satisfied with a playoff appearance instead of a playoff victory shows that the fan base is satisfied with mediocrity.

If you don't remember Marty Schotteinheimer was fired after going 14-2 and losing in the playoffs. Why? Because the ownership grew sick and tired of choking in the playoffs. Say what you will about the Chargers, but our franchise is not much better than theirs. As a California resident, I know a fair amount of Charger fans, and they show an eagerness for excellence Atlanta fans lack. They aren't satisfied with just winning seasons. They want to win, and they want to win now.

You're so right! They've had to build a new trophy room to place all those championship trophies since then huh? :ph34r:

When is the last time they went to the Super Bowl again? Just curious.

That's a really horrible comparison since they have won no more Super Bowls than we have and they didn't even make it to the playoffs last year.

So exactly what was your point about that? Turner has been in there since 2007 with no Super Bowl appearance - so that's ok, but our guys who have only been here since 2008 get no credit for the gigantic leaps they have made with this team.

What a load of hypocrisy!

As for the history - you are the one who said you didn't know it. I was just helping you out.

The fact that you would be satisfied with a playoff victory instead of the Lombardi shows that you are satisfied with mediocrity.

Get off your high horse and look at reality. We are good, in fact we are **** good. If you can't see it - then all I can say is there are none so blind as those who will not see.

[DaMeatTroughsEgo]

Every time I read the OP's thread title, I picture Mrs. Mularkey saying it.

[DaMeatTroughsEgo]

I wonder if MM draws up plays while he and his wife have sex. I would imagine she would get mad and he would tell her she's full of mularkey and then laugh manically for 30 seconds with this face

[HerFavoriteColo(u)r.]

I do know the history. I know that we have only been to the playoffs a handful of times in our entire franchise history.

However that does not excuse us being satisfied with mediocrity.

You're so right! They've had to build a new trophy room to place all those championship trophies since then huh? :ph34r:

When is the last time they went to the Super Bowl again? Just curious.

That's a really horrible comparison since they have won no more Super Bowls than we have and they didn't even make it to the playoffs last year.

So exactly what was your point about that? Turner has been in there since 2007 with no Super Bowl appearance - so that's ok, but our guys who have only been here since 2008 get no credit for the gigantic leaps they have made with this team.

What a load of hypocrisy!

As for the history - you are the one who said you didn't know it. I was just helping you out.

The fact that you would be satisfied with a playoff victory instead of the Lombardi shows that you are satisfied with mediocrity.

Get off your high horse and look at reality. We are good, in fact we are **** good. If you can't see it - then all I can say is there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Is that the post you're talking about? Where I state that I in fact do know the history of the franchise?

The comparison is actually perfect because they are in the same boat as we are, yet they are not satisfied with simply having winning seasons.

The Chargers won 4 straight AFC West titles. They don't cling on to this fact like fans here do when others criticize the coaching staff. They are asking why that's the only thing the team has accomplished. We are satisfied with anything that isn't terrible. That is why we think that Mularkey is doing well, when he can be upgraded.

Yes, we are good. I am not denying that. But we are not great.

I'm not satisfied yet. And I won't be until we win multiple Lombardi trophies. But I don't foresee that happening with this current coaching regime. This is an explosive league. We cannot win playing so conservatively.

[Tandy]

Is that the post you're talking about? Where I state that I in fact do know the history of the franchise?

The comparison is actually perfect because they are in the same boat as we are, yet they are not satisfied with simply having winning seasons.

The Chargers won 4 straight AFC West titles. They don't cling on to this fact like fans here do when others criticize the coaching staff. They are asking why that's the only thing the team has accomplished. We are satisfied with anything that isn't terrible. That is why we think that Mularkey is doing well, when he can be upgraded.

Yes, we are good. I am not denying that. But we are not great.

I'm not satisfied yet. And I won't be until we win multiple Lombardi trophies. But I don't foresee that happening with this current coaching regime. This is an explosive league. We cannot win playing so conservatively.

Nobody that I know of - and I mean nobody in the Falcon fanbase is satisfied that we haven't won a Lombardi. None of us.

What we are is happy with the progress and we understand that it doesn't happen overnight.

Take the Green Bay Packers. McCarthy was in his 5th year last year. Won it all.

Take the Saints. Payton was in his 4th year when they won it all.

Take the Colts. Dungy was in his 5th year when they won it all.

Not everybody can luck up with a win in the first 3 years. Belichick, I think, did it in his 2nd.

Usually doesn't happen that way. Especially when they take over a team they have to strip and start rebuilding.

What we can see is that we are moving towards that goal. They are putting the pieces in place to get us there. We stunk it up in the playoff game last year - but that is on the players. They stunk. They did not play like they did in the regular season and it was a devastating loss to every Falcon fan.

They looked at it and determined what we needed to take the next step is help with the explosive play. They made a shocking move in the draft to get the one guy who would give us more help where we were hurting on offense more than any other player. It was a brass balls move and it shows just how much they are doing to get us where we need to go.

They made a strong push to get CJ from Carolina, but couldn't get that high. They went out and got the next guy on their list. I'm not so sure they are done.

It doesn't happen overnight - but it will happen. We are not standing still and we are certainly not digressing. We are moving forward.

[HerFavoriteColo(u)r.]

Nobody that I know of - and I mean nobody in the Falcon fanbase is satisfied that we haven't won a Lombardi. None of us.

What we are is happy with the progress and we understand that it doesn't happen overnight.

Take the Green Bay Packers. McCarthy was in his 5th year last year. Won it all.

Take the Saints. Payton was in his 4th year when they won it all.

Take the Colts. Dungy was in his 5th year when they won it all.

Not everybody can luck up with a win in the first 3 years. Belichick, I think, did it in his 2nd.

Usually doesn't happen that way. Especially when they take over a team they have to strip and start rebuilding.

What we can see is that we are moving towards that goal. They are putting the pieces in place to get us there. We stunk it up in the playoff game last year - but that is on the players. They stunk. They did not play like they did in the regular season and it was a devastating loss to every Falcon fan.

They looked at it and determined what we needed to take the next step is help with the explosive play. They made a shocking move in the draft to get the one guy who would give us more help where we were hurting on offense more than any other player. It was a brass balls move and it shows just how much they are doing to get us where we need to go.

They made a strong push to get CJ from Carolina, but couldn't get that high. They went out and got the next guy on their list. I'm not so sure they are done.

It doesn't happen overnight - but it will happen. We are not standing still and we are certainly not digressing. We are moving forward.

We may be moving forward but we are also getting older. John Abraham is on his last set of legs and so far we haven't had anybody step up and show they can fill in his (albeit) big shoes. Tony is aging by the week. Roddy will only be Roddy for a few more years. The window is closing on this team. I want this offense to surprise everyone and become explosive, but with Mularkey (and Smith) at the helm, I fear we will only see a conservative game plan instead of utilizing the most important asset of our offense: Matt Ryan. The lack of confidence Mularkey has displayed in Matt is frustrating. Almost as frustrating as those conservative game plans.

[Tandy]

Well, enjoy your misery. I'm riding this train to the Lombardi. I'm not going to go through the whole thing with this special team whining and complaining, miserable all the way.

I'm **** sure not going to jump off board in preseason.

I'm going to have a blast this year all the way to Indy.

[Jimsmusic™]

We may be moving forward but we are also getting older. John Abraham is on his last set of legs and so far we haven't had anybody step up and show they can fill in his (albeit) big shoes. Tony is aging by the week. Roddy will only be Roddy for a few more years. The window is closing on this team. I want this offense to surprise everyone and become explosive, but with Mularkey (and Smith) at the helm, I fear we will only see a conservative game plan instead of utilizing the most important asset of our offense: Matt Ryan. The lack of confidence Mularkey has displayed in Matt is frustrating. Almost as frustrating as those conservative game plans.

dumb of mularkey when MM calls the plays the offense is slow and boring doesnt score as many points.. but when he gives matt the no huddle we score alot of points and it's exciting.. that tells me mularkey needs to go.

[Tandy]

dumb of mularkey when MM calls the plays the offense is slow and boring doesnt score as many points.. but when he gives matt the no huddle we score alot of points and it's exciting.. that tells me mularkey needs to go.

And just who do you suggest we go out and get going into the 3rd week of preseason to run our offense this year?

Tell me which guy is going to come in here, change the offense in time for game 1 and get us all the way? I'm dying to know.

Make sure it's someone we can get now - don't go throwing some name out there of someone not available at any cost.

In fact, who should we have gotten in the offseason? With the lockout and short offseason workouts.

Who exactly should we have hired when we fired Mularkey?

[peoriabird]

And just who do you suggest we go out and get going into the 3rd week of preseason to run our offense this year?

Tell me which guy is going to come in here, change the offense in time for game 1 and get us all the way? I'm dying to know.

Make sure it's someone we can get now - don't go throwing some name out there of someone not available at any cost.

In fact, who should we have gotten in the offseason? With the lockout and short offseason workouts.

Who exactly should we have hired when we fired Mularkey?

I think what they are saying is that Smith should have recognized years ago that this team would out grow Mularkey's conservative scheme and certainly should have been clear after the Green Bay loss. But Smith and TD decided to stay with him while bring in another weapon that many fans fear would be another blocker for Turner runs up the middle. Heck, even Rogers is more exciting running up the middle than any other back on our team but what does Mularkey do with him? Play him with the 3rd and 4th stringer. That reality alone tell his mentality and should be cause for alarm.

Edited August 22, 2011 by peoriabird

[Radical]

Heck, even Rogers is more exciting running up the middle than any other back on our team but what does Mularkey do with him? Play him with the 3rd and 4th stringer. That reality alone tell his mentality and should be cause for alarm.

Or maybe that he sees him every day in training camp, and knows more about him than you do based off a few snaps in a preseason game.

[B_Lo_Touchdowns]

Why don't we just have MM put the playbook online so you can pick the plays for us. We only have 3 consecutive winning season with these guys for the first time ever, but I'm pretty sure you can do better and take us to a Superbowl victory with your awesome play calling and designs. Better yet let's just make you offense and defense coordinator and use them trick plays you do on Madden cause we all know real life is just like a video game

Edited August 22, 2011 by B_Lo_Touchdowns

[swift]

Two things First MATT RYAN said they was bringing him along slowly so he would get comfortable with the playbook and that they (offense) at the time still needed some pieces. Second SMITTY stated that he told MM to call a more conservative play calling and that MM do have more exotic calls but at the time SMITTY wasn't sure if RYAN was ready for the full playbook. It amazes me what you will know if you LISTEN to the QB, OC and Head Coach sometimes.

So is that saying Matt Ryan cant grasp a offensive scheme in 3 years ?

Matt Ryan is known for his studying and work ethic

[Magic Man]

Every year people show up with "MM isnt going to show our plays in preseason" then its "MM is saving our plays since we have to play the Bucs/Saints twice", then "MM is saving some plays for the playoffs". Then after the season is over we finally admit this guy stinks. This is going on 4 years now.

And yet, despite this guy's glaring inadequacies, we are 33-15 in that span. I agree, string this guy up!!! We're clearly winning in spite of him. Nearly 4K in passing yards, 1300 yard RB, 1300 yd WR show that this guy obviously can't get it to his playmakers.

[dashriprock2]

ditto...it's pre-

[hotchiksrule]

Can't help yourself, can you Swifty?

**** we look like crap.

Was hoping we could win the div crown again but not anymore fellas.

Can we trade julio for a c.b. ?

[swift]

Best is we hear this every season

' Matt Ryan working on his arm strength'

' were going to open offense up and pass down field'

' offensive line doesnt give Ryan time'

' Ryan doesnt have weapons to attack downfield'

Well now is the year 4th year in system a weapon such as Julio Jones

Lets see this offense open up

The 2 go routes that Ryan has thrown to Julio have been garbage

Roddy hasnt gone down field

I havent seen a pass attempted over 25 yards .. Yet

The route designs are terrible by Mularkey and his play calling at times

[Geneaut]

**** we look like crap.

Was hoping we could win the div crown again but not anymore fellas.

Can we trade julio for a c.b. ?

Why trade ... plenty of veteran CBs are about to be on the market when cutdowns start.

[shockerfalcon]

You MM and BVG detractors should read the camp notebooks. Smitty clearly states that there was no game planning in the preseason. He also states that plays, formations, and nearly everything we do is just about player evaluations and not in response to anything the opposing team does on the field.

[HerFavoriteColo(u)r.]

And just who do you suggest we go out and get going into the 3rd week of preseason to run our offense this year?

Tell me which guy is going to come in here, change the offense in time for game 1 and get us all the way? I'm dying to know.

Make sure it's someone we can get now - don't go throwing some name out there of someone not available at any cost.

In fact, who should we have gotten in the offseason? With the lockout and short offseason workouts.

Who exactly should we have hired when we fired Mularkey?

Why not the new QB Coach?

He knows Matt's strengths and could design an effective game plan around his skills. This would probably lead to a West Coast kind of offense which can be explosive with the amount of talent we have here.

[Radical]

Why not the new QB Coach?

He knows Matt's strengths and could design an effective game plan around his skills. This would probably lead to a West Coast kind of offense which can be explosive with the amount of talent we have here.

Yep. Stick to Madden.

[Magic Man]

And please spare the "root for another team" chant you always spew to fans who's opinions you do not agree with. If I wanted to I would, but I love this team just as much as all of you.

I expect nothing from excellence from myself, is it irrational to expect the same from my team?

It's incredibly depressing to see other fans not share this same desire.

It is actually. Expecting greatness from yourself is fine. You have control over that. You can influence that aspect of your life. Conversely, you can hem and haw all you like, but you cannot affect the Falcons front office. You can shout from the mountain tops, but unless TD is at the bottom of that mountain, you're just talking to yourself.

[Magic Man]

**** we look like crap.

Was hoping we could win the div crown again but not anymore fellas.

Can we trade julio for a c.b. ?

Can we trade you for a sack of footballs?

[Tandy]

I think what they are saying is that Smith should have recognized years ago that this team would out grow Mularkey's conservative scheme and certainly should have been clear after the Green Bay loss. But Smith and TD decided to stay with him while bring in another weapon that many fans fear would be another blocker for Turner runs up the middle. Heck, even Rogers is more exciting running up the middle than any other back on our team but what does Mularkey do with him? Play him with the 3rd and 4th stringer. That reality alone tell his mentality and should be cause for alarm.

So, are you sayting that you think during a lockout year, the wise thing to do would be to fire the coordinator who has ranked in the top 10 in scoring each year and in the top 5 the past year - given you a winning record each year and knows the system - and the players - who also know the system and the coordinators, bring in a new guy to change everything up and expect the players in a short offseason to grasp it and move forward to the next leverl?

I'm really curious. Do you guys really want to scrap all we've done and start over? Is that what you want? Is that what you've picked up from the 2 preseason games we've played?

I'm just trying to comprehend the thinking, that's all.

[Tandy]

Why not the new QB Coach?

He knows Matt's strengths and could design an effective game plan around his skills. This would probably lead to a West Coast kind of offense which can be explosive with the amount of talent we have here.

Yep, that's a great idea. Let's start over.

Because, to do that - we have to change our OL. Our OL is built for Mularkey's offense to a tee.

That line can't pass protect, but they are amazing run blockers. Smaller than a normal line, more athletic, with a nasty attitude. They can pull and run down the field and finish with the rusher.

So, to develop the passing game, you have to work off play action and quick passes, utilizing extra tight ends and running backs to help with the protection. You lose some of the explosiveness unless you have receivers who are physical enough to become halfbacks after the catch, but you utilize that passing game mostly for conversion of 3rd downs, keeping the drive alive and capitalizing at the end.

It's not pretty and glamorous, but it's effective with the line we have.

In every effective WCO, the line is built more for the passing game, because you utilize the passing game to set up the run game, not the other way around. You need a bulkier, more physical group at the line to control the line and get push at the line, guys who are strong enough to hold the defenders off long enough for the half back or receiver to get in position for the screen before letting them loose in the backfield.

We would seriously need to start over, start rebuilding the line and forget about any post season dreams for a couple of years while we dismantle and rebuild the group to fit the new scheme and teach the players the new scheme.

I'm with ya, though, let's do it.