swift Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 No, on 3rd and 21 is when Matt threw late on and behind an open Michael Jenkins but Jenkins cant beat single coverage tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerillaOntology Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 but Jenkins cant beat single coverage tho He's done it before. How do you come to the conclusion that he is incapable of ever doing it?Cheers,GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 He's done it before. How do you come to the conclusion that he is incapable of ever doing it?Cheers,GOno I agree.. now backtrack off this like I know you will ..Jenkins has beaten single coverage. Radical often says Jenkins never beats single coverage.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuerillaOntology Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 no I agree.. now backtrack off this like I know you will ..Jenkins has beaten single coverage. Radical often says Jenkins never beats single coverage.. Backtrack? Double-down, like I know you often do, Swifty.Cheers,GO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 Backtrack? Double-down, like I know you often do, Swifty.Cheers,GOso we agree Jenkins does beat single coverage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 no I agree.. now backtrack off this like I know you will ..Jenkins has beaten single coverage. Radical often says Jenkins never beats single coverage.. A light shines on a dogs behind every other day. But let's apply your logic to something different. Based on the first play shown here... Ryan has a good deep ball. You said he has a weak arm. Clearly this contradiction proves you wrong, and Ryan can push the ball deep down the field like this video first demonstrated. Are you going to make any other stupid posts today in an attempt to take a shot at me, or am I going to have to keep making you look stupid for the whole world to see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swift Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 A light shines on a dogs behind every other day. But let's apply your logic to something different. Based on the first play shown here...I agree but I never said Ryan cant throw a deep ball just doesnt do it consistent . Think you have stated that Jenkins can never beat single coverage and by your own admittance in this thread he has shown he can . Ryan can once in a blue moonthrow a deep ball doesnt make him good at . Again have I ever said Jenkins can always beat single coverage ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted August 21, 2011 Share Posted August 21, 2011 I agree but I never said Ryan cant throw a deep ball just doesnt do it consistent . Think you have stated that Jenkins can never beat single coverage and by your own admittance in this thread he has shown he can . Ryan can once in a blue moonthrow a deep ball doesnt make him good at . Again have I ever said Jenkins can always beat single coverage ?I have said numerous times that Jenkins is not reliable and is inconsistent at beating single coverage. I have never stated that Jenkins has never beat single coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 In case it hasn't been posted enough. It's preseason. You don't show up your new weapons and schemes in a meaningless game. Did anybody, anybody at all notice how bad the Oline was getting beat? Ryan didn't have time to wait for most routes to develop. If it helps, rewatch the game and count 1 Missippi, 2M...., etc. I bet you can't get past 3. I hate to say it but Dahl is sorely missed at the moment. It does take these guys a while to gel so let's not freak out especially when it's preseason. Trust me, we are not DUUUMMMMEEEEDDDD yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geneaut Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 In case it hasn't been posted enough. It's preseason. You don't show up your new weapons and schemes in a meaningless game. Did anybody, anybody at all notice how bad the Oline was getting beat? Ryan didn't have time to wait for most routes to develop. If it helps, rewatch the game and count 1 Missippi, 2M...., etc. I bet you can't get past 3. I hate to say it but Dahl is sorely missed at the moment. It does take these guys a while to gel so let's not freak out especially when it's preseason. Trust me, we are not DUUUMMMMEEEEDDDD yet. I'm not sure it was Dahl as much as we had McClure taking a break last game and Hawley was playing OC. I noticed a lot of middle pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I wasn't making a comparison. I was asking a question considering the fact that we have claims that Mularkey has kept plays under wraps for the playoffs.What I found mind boggling was how our offense ranked dead last in post season rushing yards and second to last in passing yards in 2010.This is either a lack of game planning by our focus and/or lack of execution by our players.It was understandable in 2008 when we accredited it all to it being our first postseason game in the new era, but how long will we continue to make excuses instead of demanding change?Yards don't win games - points do.San Diego was #1 in yards and #1 in yards defensed - and they didn't even make the playoffs. You can have 500 yards in a half, but if you don't score - who freakin' cares?For the record - our overall Offense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards, overall Defense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards and our Overall ranking was #4 in scoring and #14 in yards. Our overall ranking in turnovers was 3rd. You're going to demand change? Are you freaking kidding me? Why don't you just march yourself right on up to Mr. Blanks office and demand away. Good luck with that.What, should we all charge the field and demand change for more yards?Like you said - you don't know our history. Let me school you a little.Our franchise is 44 years old.The Smith family owned it 34 of those years: We had a grand total of 7 winning seasons out of 34 seasons (20%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. We had one trip to the Super Bowl in 1998 and stunk it up terribly. Our overall record was 205-318. That's a 38.8 winning percentage.Mr. Blank has owned it the past 10 years:We have had a grand total of 5 winning seasons out of 10 seasons (50%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. Our overall record was 84-75. That's a 52.5 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.TD and Smitty have been in place the past 3 years:We have had a grand total of 3 winning seasons out of 3 seasons (100%) and went to the playoffs 2 of those seasons. Our overall record is 33-15. That's a 68.8 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.Those of us who have been around have seen a team that was not mediocre. It was bad.Mr. Blank has come in determined to turn it around. He has made the moves he felt would bring a championship to this City and yes, he's made some bad mistakes trying, but he's changed the culture. Bringing in TD and Smitty has made us better than we've ever been over a 3 year period.Do we want us to continue to get better? Of course we do. What we do know for a fact is that this team has turned around and is heading in the right direction. We are not moving backwards and we are not even standing still. We are getting better and we are moving towards a championship.This team is not mediocre. Not even slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I'm not sure it was Dahl as much as we had McClure taking a break last game and Hawley was playing OC. I noticed a lot of middle pressure.I agree there were a lot of leaks in the middle. I just happened to notice a few from the RG spot. I'll rewatch the tape later in the week. Baker did seem to have trouble here and there but I noticed the player on the A and B gaps on the right side getting to Ryan first. I know it usually takes this group a while to gel every season for whatever reason but it's not usually this leaky. I don't care how fast Roddy and Julio run they will be a non factor if this does not get corrected in a hurry. Even the run blocking was bad. Turner couldn't go anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Yards don't win games - points do.San Diego was #1 in yards and #1 in yards defensed - and they didn't even make the playoffs. You can have 500 yards in a half, but if you don't score - who freakin' cares?For the record - our overall Offense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards, overall Defense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards and our Overall ranking was #4 in scoring and #14 in yards. Our overall ranking in turnovers was 3rd. You're going to demand change? Are you freaking kidding me? Why don't you just march yourself right on up to Mr. Blanks office and demand away. Good luck with that.What, should we all charge the field and demand change for more yards?Like you said - you don't know our history. Let me school you a little.Our franchise is 44 years old.The Smith family owned it 34 of those years: We had a grand total of 7 winning seasons out of 34 seasons (20%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. We had one trip to the Super Bowl in 1998 and stunk it up terribly. Our overall record was 205-318. That's a 38.8 winning percentage.Mr. Blank has owned it the past 10 years:We have had a grand total of 5 winning seasons out of 10 seasons (50%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. Our overall record was 84-75. That's a 52.5 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.TD and Smitty have been in place the past 3 years:We have had a grand total of 3 winning seasons out of 3 seasons (100%) and went to the playoffs 2 of those seasons. Our overall record is 33-15. That's a 68.8 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.Those of us who have been around have seen a team that was not mediocre. It was bad.Mr. Blank has come in determined to turn it around. He has made the moves he felt would bring a championship to this City and yes, he's made some bad mistakes trying, but he's changed the culture. Bringing in TD and Smitty has made us better than we've ever been over a 3 year period.Do we want us to continue to get better? Of course we do. What we do know for a fact is that this team has turned around and is heading in the right direction. We are not moving backwards and we are not even standing still. We are getting better and we are moving towards a championship.This team is not mediocre. Not even slightly.Mr Ralph has been Tandy-nated. He should call you the bus driver 'cause you just took him to school. Nice breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjc34 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 "Practice.... We talkin bout Practice.... " - Allen Iversonhow can that still be funny!! but somehow it is! hayes, i too am frustrated with mularky ball but lets hope it gets better..... imo the weapons have!!btw heck of a post tandy!! nicely done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerFavoriteColo(u)r. Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Yards don't win games - points do.San Diego was #1 in yards and #1 in yards defensed - and they didn't even make the playoffs. You can have 500 yards in a half, but if you don't score - who freakin' cares?For the record - our overall Offense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards, overall Defense ranked #5 in scoring, #16 in yards and our Overall ranking was #4 in scoring and #14 in yards. Our overall ranking in turnovers was 3rd. You're going to demand change? Are you freaking kidding me? Why don't you just march yourself right on up to Mr. Blanks office and demand away. Good luck with that.What, should we all charge the field and demand change for more yards?Like you said - you don't know our history. Let me school you a little.Our franchise is 44 years old.The Smith family owned it 34 of those years: We had a grand total of 7 winning seasons out of 34 seasons (20%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. We had one trip to the Super Bowl in 1998 and stunk it up terribly. Our overall record was 205-318. That's a 38.8 winning percentage.Mr. Blank has owned it the past 10 years:We have had a grand total of 5 winning seasons out of 10 seasons (50%) and went to the playoffs 5 of those seasons. Our overall record was 84-75. That's a 52.5 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.TD and Smitty have been in place the past 3 years:We have had a grand total of 3 winning seasons out of 3 seasons (100%) and went to the playoffs 2 of those seasons. Our overall record is 33-15. That's a 68.8 winning percentage. No trips to the Super Bowl yet.Those of us who have been around have seen a team that was not mediocre. It was bad.Mr. Blank has come in determined to turn it around. He has made the moves he felt would bring a championship to this City and yes, he's made some bad mistakes trying, but he's changed the culture. Bringing in TD and Smitty has made us better than we've ever been over a 3 year period.Do we want us to continue to get better? Of course we do. What we do know for a fact is that this team has turned around and is heading in the right direction. We are not moving backwards and we are not even standing still. We are getting better and we are moving towards a championship.This team is not mediocre. Not even slightly.I do know the history, so spare the lesson.The fact that we are satisfied with a playoff appearance instead of a playoff victory shows that the fan base is satisfied with mediocrity. If you don't remember Marty Schotteinheimer was fired after going 14-2 and losing in the playoffs. Why? Because the ownership grew sick and tired of choking in the playoffs. Say what you will about the Chargers, but our franchise is not much better than theirs. As a California resident, I know a fair amount of Charger fans, and they show an eagerness for excellence Atlanta fans lack. They aren't satisfied with just winning seasons. They want to win, and they want to win now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerFavoriteColo(u)r. Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 And please spare the "root for another team" chant you always spew to fans who's opinions you do not agree with. If I wanted to I would, but I love this team just as much as all of you.I expect nothing from excellence from myself, is it irrational to expect the same from my team?It's incredibly depressing to see other fans not share this same desire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aria7 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Tired of MM and this vanilla play calling. Honestly it's so predictable to read his playcalling; Here's what i have seen so far that im not digging.1) Running the ball on the 2 yard line in the backfield for 0 yardage.2) The routes our wr's are getting are too shallow and not deep enough ( you see what happened when we gave all 3 or 4 of our receivers longer routes and Harry turned it upfield, that should be happening like clockwork for us!)3) You give turner the ball on 1st and 2nd down and wait until 3rd to throw it. He's wasting our downs when we have a great passing core.We don't need to start wasting clock unless we have a minimum of 10+ point margin, it's not cool!Also, I don't wanna hear a reply that says its just a preseason game because this is the time to start building good habits and if we wanna start winning playoff games this vanilla play calling has got to stop! I hear you brotha. People will be saying that its "just" preseason, but when the season does start it will be it's "just" the first couple of games and tell everyone to be patient and wait. Then by midseason they will say that the offense will explose in the post season and by then it will be too late. But then again they will say just wait till next season.The Falcons have some nice talent - enough with the hooks and ultra conservative calls. But then again it doesn't matter what will occur, the homers will always say it's for the best. O well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I hear you brotha. People will be saying that its "just" preseasonThose people are coaches, players, and even Roddy White just recently. Go back to Madden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aria7 Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I do know the history, so spare the lesson.The fact that we are satisfied with a playoff appearance instead of a playoff victory shows that the fan base is satisfied with mediocrity. If you don't remember Marty Schotteinheimer was fired after going 14-2 and losing in the playoffs. Why? Because the ownership grew sick and tired of choking in the playoffs. Say what you will about the Chargers, but our franchise is not much better than theirs. As a California resident, I know a fair amount of Charger fans, and they show an eagerness for excellence Atlanta fans lack. They aren't satisfied with just winning seasons. They want to win, and they want to win now.I am from up north and I know the same feeling. Even other fans admit that the overall falcon fan is ok to be mediocre because being mediocre is a huge upgrade from what the team used to be. I guess this type of apathy is contagious.I took the neg off your comment and that of the OP. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banned Posted August 22, 2011 Author Share Posted August 22, 2011 I hear you brotha. People will be saying that its "just" preseason, but when the season does start it will be it's "just" the first couple of games and tell everyone to be patient and wait. Then by midseason they will say that the offense will explose in the post season and by then it will be too late. But then again they will say just wait till next season.The Falcons have some nice talent - enough with the hooks and ultra conservative calls. But then again it doesn't matter what will occur, the homers will always say it's for the best. O well.Good to know I have some sympathizers. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 I expect nothing from excellence from myselfThen your posts must be failing your expectations miserably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 agreed +1let the homers who like terrible curl routes neg you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerFavoriteColo(u)r. Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 Then your posts must be failing your expectations miserably.If you're going to criticize my grammar then check yours first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 If you're going to criticize my grammar then check yours first.lol don't even start with him he won't admit defeat hence he keeps getting owned by swift then personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerFavoriteColo(u)r. Posted August 22, 2011 Share Posted August 22, 2011 lol don't even start with him he won't admit defeat hence he keeps getting owned by swift then personal attacks.I'm not planning to. Cmon man I got a life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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