Which NFCS Miami Alum will spill the beans 1st.

[koolkat]

Out Of Beason, Vilma and Winslow who will talk first?

Who took more money?

Why did Winslow take money anyway isn't his dad in the HOF?

Who will be hurt by this more?

[SuperAINTSfan]

Out Of Beason, Vilma and Winslow who will talk first?

Who took more money?

Why did Winslow take money anyway isn't his dad in the HOF?

Who will be hurt by this more?

i think they should all talk. NONE can be punished for it. the school cant either for these players.

if you throw thousands at kids, they gonna take it

[koolkat]

i think they should all talk. NONE can be punished for it. the school cant either for these players.

if you throw thousands at kids, they gonna take it

Their may be a way the player named can actually be sued by the people who lost money in Shapiro Ponzi scheme. If a lawyer can come up with any way to prove either the player knew about Shapiro Ponzi scheme or that was directly Ponzi money he was using for the hoe's and the party. People will come to get their money back from the players.

[calidawg]

Out Of Beason, Vilma and Winslow who will talk first?

Who took more money?

Why did Winslow take money anyway isn't his dad in the HOF?

Who will be hurt by this more?

I doubt Beason got much of anything. He wasnt a very big recruit. Cant speak on Vilma cause he was before the days of recruiting rankings. Kellen Winslow on the other hand....hes a soldier, so we all know he wont spill the beans. Greg Olsen may be a wildcard here.

[koolkat]

no chance

I didn't think McDonalds could be sued for serving hot coffee but we all know how that ended.

[koolkat]

the two situations are not even comparable. just because you didn't think one situation was likely or possible doesn't mean that other things are.

I agree the McDonald's situation was ridiculous just like I think it is ridiculous that the makers of clothes irons have to put a warning on it for people not to iron clothes that are being worn at the time. however, in both those situations they were still lawsuits that were against somebody directly involved and not some ancillary that may or may not have had knowledge of what was going on

We are talking about how eager a lawyer is and what they can prove in a court of law. Not to mention it's seem like Shapiro has a axe to grind nobody know what evdience he might have stashed a way. Plus he is not just mad at the school he is also mad at the player he thought were his friends.

This was a felony where alot of people lost their money. They are still going after people who were close to Bernie Madoff.

[koolkat]

they would have a much better chance of going after UM than any individual players

there really is no evidence he could have that would definitely prove that the players knew that this was the source of the money. proving that individual players KNEW with 100% certainty that the money was coming from this AND that they players would have the understanding of what was going on would be impossible. Even if he could prove that he told some of the players about it, they could always claim that they thought he was joking or that he TOLD them he was joking.

Dago i agree with you but in a court of law If enough witness can convince either a jury or a judge that they knew no matter what you say they may come after the money that he gave them.

[DD: Objective Elite]

Out Of Beason, Vilma and Winslow who will talk first?

Who took more money?

Why did Winslow take money anyway isn't his dad in the HOF?

Who will be hurt by this more?

Wow, you started the same thread on two different MBs. Cool stories bro!!

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/carolina-panthers/66136-which-nfcs-miami-alum-will-spill-the-beans-1st.html

[Big_L]

There's one on saintsreport too.

[DD: Objective Elite]

There's one on saintsreport too.

Trifecta

[nolafan33]

Jon Beason, linebacker, Carolina Panthers: Cash gifts, entertainment on Shapiro's yacht, Drinks and VIP access in nightclubs, meals at Miami-area restaurants. Beason also received $1,150 in bounties. From the report: "Shapiro said he paid Beason $650 in bounty money for his first career start at Virginia on Nov. 13, 2004. The cash was doled out for Beason notching eight tackles ($50 each) and a sack ($250) in a 31-21 win. The booster said a second bounty of $500 was paid for a hit that Beason put on Colorado quarterback Joel Klatt during the runback of a fumbled snap in a 23-3 win over Colorado on Sept. 24, 2005."

Calais Campbell, defensive end, Arizona Cardinals: Food, drinks and entertainment at Shapiro's $6 million Miami Beach mansion, an August 2006 dinner at Italian eatery Grazie in which Shapiro personally drove Campbell to the restaurant, and at least one occasion where Shapiro provided VIP access and drinks at a nightclub.

Vernon Carey, offensive lineman, Miami Dolphins: Food, drinks and entertainment at one of Shapiro's homes and on his yacht.

Orlando Franklin, offensive tackle, Denver Broncos: Food, drinks and entertainment at Shapiro's Miami Beach mansion on multiple occasions, drinks and VIP access in nightclubs on multiple occasions, bounties for plays against defensive linemen, meals at Miami-area restaurants including a February 2007 dinner at Italian eatery Grazie.

Frank Gore, running back, San Francisco 49ers: Lunch with Shapiro on a handful of occasions. Also, according to the report: "Shapiro also told federal agents in taped interviews that both he and current Miami staffer Sean Allen(notes) had knowledge of Shapiro's partner in Axcess Sports — then-NFL agent and current UFL commissioner Michael Huyghue — paying Gore while he played for the Hurricanes."

Devin Hester, wide receiver/returner, Chicago Bears: Multiple cash gifts, including cash for rims for Hester's sport utility vehicle, approximately $3,000 for an engagement ring, playoff tickets to a Miami Heat versus Detroit Pistons playoff game on June 6, 2005. Also: drinks and VIP access at nightclubs, multiple meals at Miami-area restaurants. Food, drinks, entertainment and lodging at Shapiro's $2.7 million Miami Beach home, Entertainment on Shapiro's million yacht, clothing purchased for Hester in August 2005. The report also details $7,500 in bounties: "$1,000 total for a 97-yard kickoff return for a touchdown ($500) and an ensuing celebration penalty ($500) in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003; $2,500 total for two punt returns for touchdowns ($1,000 each) and one celebration penalty ($500) in a 48-0 win over Louisiana Tech on Sept. 18, 2004; $2,000 total for two return touchdowns (including one called back by penalty) in a 41-38 win over Louisville on Oct. 14, 2004; $1,000 total for a kickoff return for a touchdown in a 45-31 win over N.C. State on Oct. 23, 2004; and $1,000 total for a missed field goal returned for a touchdown in a 27-10 win over Florida on Dec. 31, 2004."

Andre Johnson, wide receiver, Houston Texans: Multiple trips to nightclubs where Shapiro paid for VIP access and drinks.

Willis McGahee, running back, Denver Broncos: Two custom-tailored suits, plane tickets for McGahee's girlfriend and a second woman to attend the 2002 Heisman Trophy ceremony in New York City, food, drinks and entertainment at Shapiro's $2.7 million Miami Beach home, and various cash gifts.

The report has McGahee receiving $2,000 in cash bounties: "The bounties were: $1,000 total for 234 rushing yards (Shapiro offered $500 per 100 total yards) in a 41-16 win over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002; and $1,000 total for a touchdown ($500) and 173 yards rushing and receiving ($500) in a 28-27 win over Florida State on Oct. 12, 2002."

Rocky McIntosh, linebacker, Washington Redskins: Drinks and VIP access in nightclubs, entertainment on Shapiro's $1.6 million yacht, and $500 in bounties. The report indicates that the bounty payment was for a pair of sacks and a fumble recovery by McIntosh in a 27-7 win over Virginia Tech on Nov. 5, 2005.

Kenny Phillips, safety, New York Giants: Food, drinks and entertainment at two homes owned by Shapiro and one owned by Shapiro's ex-girlfriend, meals at Miami-area restaurants, entertainment on Shapiro's yacht.

Antrel Rolle, safety. New York Giants: A $7,500 watch, cash gifts in the thousands of dollars (reportedly as much as $40,000), multiple trips to both nightclubs and strip clubs where Shapiro paid for VIP access, drinks and entertainment, trips on Shapiro's yacht, food, drinks and entertainment at Shapiro's $2.7 million Miami Beach home, transpiration to and from nightclubs and strip clubs provided by Shapiro's bodyguards

Rolle also received $1,500 in bounties. From the report: "One bounty of $1,000 was for Rolle shutting down Georgia Tech wideout (and former Miami recruiting target) Calvin Johnson(notes) in a 27-3 win over Georgia Tech on Oct. 2, 2004. A second bounty of $500 was for a game-sealing interception in a 41-38 win over Louisville on Oct. 14, 2004."

Sam Shields, cornerback, Green Bay Packers: A 42" TV, drinks and VIP access in nightclubs, food, drink, and entertainment in Shapiro's mansion.

Jonathan Vilma, linebacker, New Orleans Saints: Food, drinks and entertainment in Shapiro's $2.7 million Miami Beach home, entertainment on Shapiro's yacht and personal watercraft, various cash gifts, drinks and VIP access in nightclubs, and $2,250 in bounties. "Shapiro said the bounties were: $1,000 for a hit and personal foul penalty by Vilma on Florida State quarterback Chris Rix during Miami's 28-27 win on Oct. 12, 2002; $250 for a sack in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003; and $1,000 for a hit on Rix in a 16-14 win over Florida State on Jan. 1, 2004."

Vince Wilfork, defensive tackle, New England Patriots: A $50,000 lump sum payment during Wilfork's junior season. Per the report: "Shapiro said the payment was made to secure Wilfork's commitment to Shapiro's sports agency, Axcess Sports, which he co-owned with then-NFL agent and current UFL commissioner Michael Huyghue. Wilfork eventually signed with Axcess Sports and his first NFL contract was negotiated by Huyghue."

Wilfork also received multiple cash gifts totaling in the thousands of dollars, trips to nightclubs where Shapiro paid for VIP access and drinks, fishing and leisure trips on Shapiro's yacht, meals at Miami-area restaurants, lodging, food and drinks at Shapiro's $2.7 million Miami Beach home, and a washer and dryer worth approximately $1,500.

The report also indicated that Wilfork received three bounty payments totaling $1,250. "A bounty of $500 was paid for a sack and unsportsmanlike conduct penalty by Wilfork in a 41-16 win over Florida on Sept. 7, 2002. A second bounty of $250 was paid for a sack by Wilfork in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003. A third bounty of $500 was paid for a fumble recovery by Wilfork in a 22-14 win over Florida State on Oct. 11, 2003."

D.J. Williams, linebacker, Denver Broncos: Food, drinks and entertainment at Shapiro's Miami Beach home, cash gifts, entertainment on Shapiro's yacht, a trip to Miami for Williams' mother, multiple meals in Miami-area restaurants, and a $250 bounty for a sack in a 38-33 win over Florida on Sept. 6, 2003.

Kellen Winslow, Jr., tight end, Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Entertainment on Shapiro's yacht and personal watercraft, drinks and VIP access in nightclubs, and "Shapiro said he also paid cash to fix damage Winslow inflicted by crashing one of the booster's personal watercraft into another boat."

[Aquietguy]

We are talking about how eager a lawyer is and what they can prove in a court of law. Not to mention it's seem like Shapiro has a axe to grind nobody know what evdience he might have stashed a way. Plus he is not just mad at the school he is also mad at the player he thought were his friends.

This was a felony where alot of people lost their money. They are still going after people who were close to Bernie Madoff.

The difference is that none of the players had any financial agreements with Shapiro or with any other party in the ponsi scheme.