Karst41 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 TD better be on the freaking Phone, and finding us a Veteran that can play Corner / Nickel.Owens was beyond Horrible last night and this kid has been in the leaguelong enough to avoid such a disastrous performanceI Kid you not.If Dunta or Grimes gets injured we will repeat the 2009 season at Corner.Owens got Burnt to a Crisp last night and By Gawd he is now to be called-----------------------------CRISP OWENS------------------------ Franks was not a lot better last night but he looked great on his returns.If Franks gets more returns he will develop a swagger that will spill over into hisplay at Corner / Nickle.But even with that said, we do not have any serviceable depth at the position.One Injury at Corner, and you can forget about the Post Season.I have watched the NFL for Decades and I have seen this exact situation countless times,and unless TD acts quickly History will repeat it self.You may not like my post, I do not care.The regular season will prove me correct.I repeatOwens must be cut and and well seasoned vet must be brought in immediately so he can learnour system and be ready.Another Brian Williams if you will. 30 something with good knees that will not cost a lot to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I kinda agree but at this point, I'm starting to think maybe it's the scheme. I mean ALL of these dudes suck. quit trying to be cute, let these dudes man up on a receiver and cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 He has no excuses, but a few posters, HERE, seems to think that he takes too much blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBOPPER Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 our nickel corners do suk very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I MUS WRITE Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I think he is along the same lines as Chevis jackson -who by the way just got released by denver....... I dont expect to see much of this guy -Dam Shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Gritz Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I think it's sad because Owens has the physical skill set to be a decent/good corner. I think his suckage is based on a couple of different factors:1.) He just doesn't get the mental aspect of the game. He tries to play so physical...I believe he must be neglecting the playbook/cerebral part of being a corner in the NFL.2.) Confidence. I would think at this point he has none.....No swagger as corner=No feel for the flow of the game=Getting toasted on a regular basis.Because of #1 and #2 he plays scared....You can't played scared in the NFL at any position.I suspect that the line that Flowery Branch has been putting out for a couple of weeks now...i.e..."We aren't looking for any veteran nickel CB help".....is being reevaluated this morning....or was never to be believed anyway.Good post karst, I feel your concern my brother, and raise you one "troubled." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted August 13, 2011 Author Share Posted August 13, 2011 This will be my 50th year of watching the NFL.It is the Game that I love the most.This does not mean that I know everything about the Game and Coaching Strategies,but I have seen everything many many times.The game is evolving, but certain elements of the game remain a constant and always will.Remember how stoked we all were over this guy?Growens anybody?Yes it is sad, but ±W±T±H, its the NFL and thats the way the Cooke Crisp Crumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedeadhead Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I concur sir...... Get some help at NB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 At least Crisp Houston was around the WR...broke neck and all.I've always thought that Owens was in the wrong scheme. He showed some grasp for the position at the end of 09/10, but has rapidly regressed looking "lost" in coverage. I have no faith in Owens being an option(of any kind). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fantom Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I kinda agree but at this point, I'm starting to think maybe it's the scheme. I mean ALL of these dudes suck. quit trying to be cute, let these dudes man up on a receiver and cover.I feel exactly how you feel. If we keep the scheme, which we will, then cut the guy and find someone who could play zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransack Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 While we're at it add interior d-linemen to this list. Our backups there leave a lot to be desired as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terber Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I hate to pile on, but that area of the defense is not looking good. Still early, but I hope that TD at least has somebody in his back pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Kelvin Hayden, Brian Williams, Randall Gay, Lito Sheppard... we gotta get one of these gentlemen on the line and bring him in!I think we need help at safety, as well. Bush looked all right, but Schillinger definitely did not. Atari Bigby or even Darren Sharper would provide us with some nice, veteran depth.But cornerback is the most important area for sure. We absolutely have to bring someone else in to compete with Franks, because it is time for Owens to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The best two that are left are Hayden and Brian Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 The best two that are left are Hayden and Brian Williams.I'm really surprised that no one has signed Hayden yet. I know he's "injury prone," but the guy was the best cornerback on the Colts for several seasons, and he has a history of making big plays. We could also try working out a trade with the Eagles for one of their cornerbacks who is not part of the "big three" -- Joselio Hanson or Marlin Jackson would both be upgrades over Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 When is the game replay? I need to watch him again. I wasn't paying him any attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2000 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 (edited) At least Crisp Houston was around the WR...broke neck and all.I've always thought that Owens was in the wrong scheme. He showed some grasp for the position at the end of 09/10, but has rapidly regressed looking "lost" in coverage. I have no faith in Owens being an option(of any kind).Crisp Houston actually had an int last night, had his head around perfectly. Was a horrible pass though. I am terrified if one of out starters goes down and these guys have to start (Cincy last year). I think owens needs some confidence. Maybe with all starters in there, he will look better, don't know. One of them may work at a nickel, but starting on the outside scares me. Need to bring in somebody even if it is just B Williams. Edited August 13, 2011 by jeffro2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllStarHandyMan Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Owens is no good for us if Franks should start over him!!! or get someone better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'm really surprised that no one has signed Hayden yet. I know he's "injury prone," but the guy was the best cornerback on the Colts for several seasons, and he has a history of making big plays. We could also try working out a trade with the Eagles for one of their cornerbacks who is not part of the "big three" -- Joselio Hanson or Marlin Jackson would both be upgrades over Owens.Man at this point I think anyone is an upgrade over Owens. Against a vanilla offense and couldn't make a play? Burnt by Hartline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I think our coaches just have Owens in the wrong place.........they should ship his azz to Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Crisp Houston actually had an int last night, had his head around perfectly. I've spoken to some Lions fans that are content with him. I don't want Houston back either, but Owens is looking like the bigger "Crisp". I'll settle for Bwill bad knees and all. At least I know his struggles are injury related, not spontaneous combustion like Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I'd give him another chance, it is the preseason after all, but if he gets torched again to go along with his offseason activities then he's as good as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderboy09 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Guys....I agree....but it's still VERY early. I think that we will sign or trade for a Vet (As Peyton brought out TD has done this every year) but Franks may actually improve from week to week. The lockout and all the time away affects younger players the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 FROM COACH MIKE SMITH’S PRESS CONFERENCE: There were a lot of good things. There were a lot of bad things and there were some okay things in the ball game. I did like several things that I saw out there. We as a coaching staff will dissect it when we watch tape tomorrow and make the corrections. There are a lot of things that we need to fix. That’s what the preseason is for. It’s for you to evaluate your team and put your roster together. This is just step one in the four steps that we go through to get ready for the regular season.ON JULIO JONES: Julio got indoctrinated into what the NFL is about. In terms of the plays that he made, they were outstanding. I think all three touches were for first downs. He showed some skills that we saw when he was playing at the University of Alabama. . . I really thought Julio did some good things.ON THE FIRST TEAM DEFENSE: That’s the way to start off your season in the preseason. You want to have a fast start. I thought that the defense did a very good job with ball disruptions and taking the ball away, that’s a big emphasis point.ON BEING DETERMINED TO GET JULIO THE BALL: I don’t know if (we were) determined to get him the ball. It was the way the defense was trying to defend us. . . We script our first 15 plays and it’s based on how people are going to try to defend us.ON THE TWO MIAMI TOUCHDOWN PASSES: It was tough for those guys. We saw the route combination and I’m defending the young man that was out there. We had not seen that route combination. It will be part of our installation as we move into next week. It was something that we hadn’t seen. It was two good plays by them.AJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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