Terrelle Pryor in the supplemental draft

[JBourneMurkedU]

This is a truly horrible post. What do you have to backup your claim with either player?

I am not the biggest Tebow fan but I do think he can be an adequate QB in the NFL. Pryor who is more talented and has a history in the pro style offense can be a very good QB. Both players are extremely raw but still are effective runners which you fail to point out.

I don't know maybe numerous analysts, experts, and scouts who have been around the game their entire lives saying Tebow's accuracy sucks. Saying Pryor's accuracy sucks. One scout who graded 40 QB's during last year's college football season had Pryor ranked 37th in terms of accuracy. That's pathetic. QB has to be able to complete passes consistently, not run the football consistently. This isn't college.

Anything else you want to know?

Edited August 13, 2011 by JBourneMurkedU

[Guest Gritz]

Falcon filter.

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Pryor's game won't translate to the pros.

real/thread

[#1 pick]

I don't know maybe numerous analysts, experts, and scouts who have been around the game their entire lives saying Tebow's accuracy sucks. Saying Pryor's accuracy sucks. One scout who graded 40 QB's during last year's college football season had Pryor ranked 37th in terms of accuracy. That's pathetic. QB has to be able to complete passes consistently, not run the football consistently. This isn't college.

Anything else you want to know?

You meant the same numerous analyst who said Newton will not be a 1st round pick. Matt Ryan cannot become a star QB in the NFL. The same guys who said Jamarcus Russell could be a potentially super bowl type of QB but rarely said that for Ryan. Please, these guys have biases. That why if you watch the tape all three years with Julio, you would realize that him and Green are on the same tier. Several months before the draft, team gave him a mid 1st round grade and said Green was the best WR prospect since Johnson or Moss.

Tebow accuracy doesn't really suck especially considering teams with have to take account for him running so they can't defend him like a pocket QB. Another logical thing that is never mention on this board when comes to QB's. His issue is advanced reads and finding a WR after his first option is blanketed. I would love the scout who said that to tell his reasoning and why it's adjacent to Pryor. For one, Pryor is a extremely mobile QB. Teams can't play him like they play the balanced or pocket QB. So what I am looking for from a prospect like Pryor is his accuracy on the run. His short range acc. mid. deep. I put less emphasis on advanced reads and reading coverages because they can still win NFL games even if they are weak in this area as mobile QB's. Super Bowls? Another topic and personally you must be able to read coverages in the playoffs since the defenses are normally very good or elite. Now Pryor has far more physical tools and abilities over Tebow and it's not even close. Tebow is a natural leader. Pryor is more like Eli Manning. He either leads by example or doesn't lead at all.

Looking statically and the type of offense he played in(pro style), his accuracy was fairly good. To say that he was one of the worst is delusional. Very delusional and I watched a ton of QB's.

I really didn't see anything you said that had substance.

this post sucks! T. Pryor is a couach killer, and has abosultely no class or character. How can a Falcons Fan even want him in Ga polluting our state?

Coach killer? Is this just a presumion based on what happened at OSU because Pryor seriously got in hot water when it was proven the coach hands was too dirty to be cleaned by Dial. Don't place the blame one person, highly ignorant thing to say.

SBLaw, I will deal with you later. You still have time to edit what you wrote because I will go in on you.

[#1 pick]

Pryor's game won't translate to the pros.

real/thread

Some of these posts are flat out hilarious. His game will not translate to the pros? In what world. That guy has a very good arm, elite athleticism, elite size, and decent accuracy from a PRO STYLE system. He is also very talented. What the he!! do you mean his game won't translate in the pros? He is very bit the prospect that Aaron Rodgers was coming out of Cal. He is very raw in several degrees and need tutelage, a humbling experience, and seasoning before he can be an effective QB at this level but to say his game won't translate to the pros is a very ridiculous thing to say.

[JBourneMurkedU]

^ Get off of Pryor's nuts man. His accuracy isn't decent it's awful and you're trying to hide behind it by saying well he is a mobile QB. The two don't correlate in any shape or form. Vince Young is a mobile QB too, look how his career has turned out. Here's a hint: his lack of consistent accuracy has a lot to do with him being a backup QB now. Elite athleticism? Already giving him that and he hasn't played in the NFL whose speed is ridiculous compared to that of college. There are plenty of athletic QB's who have come and gone in this league. Being athletic doesn't equate to **** in the NFL. His mechanics are sloppy and his decision making is slow. His footwork needs a **** a ton of work and he doesn't necessarily protect the football very well. His pocket presence is lacking as well. These are all facts and you can see all of this if you watch him in an OSU uniform. Like I said play making ability isn't the only thing you need to be a QB in the NFL. The little things matter, the things that don't show up in the stat sheet and right now he is weak in all of those departments.

I haven't even touched on his character issues yet. A guy with a "me" first attitude and you want to invest in him, and quite possibly make him a starting QB down the line. Some leader. Keep hyping up your boy though, do your thing. LOL.

Edited August 13, 2011 by JBourneMurkedU

[Guest Gritz]

Some of these posts are flat out hilarious. His game will not translate to the pros? In what world. That guy has a very good arm, elite athleticism, elite size, and decent accuracy from a PRO STYLE system. He is also very talented. What the he!! do you mean his game won't translate in the pros? He is very bit the prospect that Aaron Rodgers was coming out of Cal. He is very raw in several degrees and need tutelage, a humbling experience, and seasoning before he can be an effective QB at this level but to say his game won't translate to the pros is a very ridiculous thing to say.

He couldn't hit the water throwing the football out of a boat.

If you don't understand that I suggest you contact Fischer-Price and ask them to invent an educational football game.

[Knight of God]

I don't want to hear it every time Ryan misses a guy on a pattern. No.

[ol'_dirty2]

Exactly. TD has effectively changed the culture around here and to sign a overrated malcontent (and possible lockeroom cancer) like Pryor is not the way to go.

+1

Solid point, but he wouldn't be able to be a cancer at the backup or 3rd QB position. Just like when MV was here...who cares about the 3rd string QB prospects?

[ol'_dirty2]

Pryor nah,

But 31 GMs should be fired for not picking up Qb Mallet before 3rd round!

What an arm

I believe it was his head they were all worried about. If Brady gets hurt or hangs it up in a few years, this guy would still be able to get it done.

[Borat]

TE project.

[Jp7833]

I'd spend a 7th round pick on him.

GUYS

Please look at who we have behind Matt Ryan.

An ex-insurance salesman and frat attack JPW who seriously looks like a highschool football player out there playing with a bunch of men.

Not saying that TP would be an improvement, but with tutelage from Matty Ice and some good coaching he could be a great backup QB and a running threat every now and again. He could also play WR. TP is worth a 7th round pick, nothing more tho. I wouldnt spend a 6th round pick on him lol.

[#1 pick]

^ Get off of Pryor's nuts man. His accuracy isn't decent it's awful and you're trying to hide behind it by saying well he is a mobile QB. The two don't correlate in any shape or form. Vince Young is a mobile QB too, look how his career has turned out. Here's a hint: his lack of consistent accuracy has a lot to do with him being a backup QB now. Elite athleticism? Already giving him that and he hasn't played in the NFL whose speed is ridiculous compared to that of college. There are plenty of athletic QB's who have come and gone in this league. Being athletic doesn't equate to **** in the NFL. His mechanics are sloppy and his decision making is slow. His footwork needs a **** a ton of work and he doesn't necessarily protect the football very well. His pocket presence is lacking as well. These are all facts and you can see all of this if you watch him in an OSU uniform. Like I said play making ability isn't the only thing you need to be a QB in the NFL. The little things matter, the things that don't show up in the stat sheet and right now he is weak in all of those departments.

I haven't even touched on his character issues yet. A guy with a "me" first attitude and you want to invest in him, and quite possibly make him a starting QB down the line. Some leader. Keep hyping up your boy though, do your thing. LOL.

What a quality opening post. I see your parents did an outstanding job raising you. If Vince Young who was rookie of the year, a two time Pro Bowler and one of the most winningest QB's in the game today % wise is an prime example for TP who could be had at a far cheaper rate, than I say I will make that selection seven times a week and twice on Sundays. VY accuracy is actually good. It was his relationship with his HC, mental stability, ability to make advanced reads which was his issue. Once again you sound like a broken brain-head record. Saying the same thing with no substance while being defiantly ignorant which might be in-grain in your DNA at this point.

Hide behind, I do not have to hide behind anything, I say it as it is. His accuracy is decent and was quite good looking at his overall college numbers. He has decision making issues as well as he has games where lack of preparation seems like it could have been the issue going by the tape. I said Julio Jones had elite talent and he never played a down in the NFL as I did for A.J. Green. I said Ingram could be one of the better NFL RB's. They never played a down, why did I say that? Because I watched the tapes. Same for TP.

Not many elite athletes at QB with the physical tools fail just like elite tools QB with some idea how to play QB in the NFL even if they don't have work ethic. Hence Jeff George and the one who worked hard, Brett Favre. When you have some elite tools or talent, it is hard to fail, you have to not try or give up to fail while others have to work extremely hard to be successful. That was another silly blank statement by you. Please name names?

Pryor decision making is far more poor than slow, he reacts in a timely manner. His mechanics and footwork, especially footwork needs work. I agree 100%. His pocket presence isn't good but his mobility and tackle breaking ability buys him time that many others aren't afforded. You are right, playmaking isn't the only thing you need to be successful in the NFL. But we all knew that!

He doesn't have a "me first" attitude like T.O. or Randy Moss. He has a super cocky, dear Mr. Toilet, I'm the shiz" attitude Rodgers had at Cal. He cares about winning and the team more than himself, he just is arrogant as shiz. You seem to have a personal vendetta v. TP. As you have very little ability to logically make points in this discussion.

He gets a 2nd round grade from me.

Strengths

- Talent

- Athletic ability

- Clutch

- Big Game player

- Arm strength

- Size

- Confidence

- Very good deep ball passer

- Very good instincts

- Great playmaker

- From a pro style system

Weaknesses

- Raw and not polished

- Advanced reads in terms of passing

- More of a Basketball player playing QB at this point

- Decision Making

- Horrible footwork

- Below average mechanics

- Trouble at Ohio State

- Confidence can linger to arrogance

- Leadership

- Maturity

- Consistency

- Needs to better understand what he sees in the film-room

- Holds the ball too long

Comparison: Aaron Rodgers when he came out of Cal. Not the Rodgers of today who has matured and become a polished Pro Bowl QB who recently won a super bowl.

Edited August 13, 2011 by #1 pick

[#1 pick]

He couldn't hit the water throwing the football out of a boat.

If you don't understand that I suggest you contact Fischer-Price and ask them to invent an educational football game.

Idiotic post.

I don't want to hear it every time Ryan misses a guy on a pattern. No.

You might be on the something. I remember when someone mention drafting Tyrod Taylor in the later rounds as a backup. I didn't find the suggestion to be a bad one. The guy was ridiculed. I really think the hate is racial than actually based on talent. Most of the posts in this thread are something an idiotic storm-front member could cook up. I am with you that his might be racial issue since I don't see the talent one.

I doubt we will hear his name, he's raw and Ryan is legit. Maybe someone like Dtan but they are just calling for Ryan's head no matter what.

Edited August 13, 2011 by #1 pick

[Guest Gritz]

Idiotic post.

Yeah, and yours on this subject are just sparkling with knowledge and insight...

I swear, some of the guys you post your tent poles on are ******* hilarious. But keep it up, it's good for a couple of laughs.

[falconidae]

He was suspended so under investigation thing is already solved. Didn't the number one overall pick in this years draft have just as much baggage and criminal charges which Pryor has never had and was still selected with the #1 pick. I love the kick a man while he's down logic some on this board have. We did that with Vick and he finished second in the MVP voting last season. This forum needs to quit thinking that this is working at a Fortune 500 corporate HQ. This is a sport where ability and talent is very important. It's important in getting more assets, having assets, and winning games.

One of the biggest risks about drafting Newton is that of character. Never heard of Manning cheating or stealing, or Brady or Rivers, or Brees or Freeman or the lesser Manning or Rogers or Schaub or Big Ben or Ryan... Can't think of a QB with a risky background succeeding right off the top of my head.

Who did that with Vick? Do you mean some of the fans or the team? Did you you ever expect for him to ever play for the falcons again after he lied to Blank?

Sorry, but if you're stupid enough to run an interstate gambling ring and lose a 100 million dollar contract, then you deserve to be criticized. Dogfighting wasn't even a felony in VA, if Vick had simply fought dogs in state, he would still be the Atlanta QB, he'd still have a 100 million dollars, he'd have another 3 years of game experience under his belt and might have matured into the QB he could have been.

As it stands now, he's started less than half the games he possibly could have in his career [160 possible starts, 79 starts] and no matter how he does from here on out, wasted 05-09, the prime of his career, fighting dogs.

[Guest Gritz]

I really think the hate is racial than actually based on talent. Most of the posts in this thread are something an idiotic storm-front member could cook up. I am with you that his might be racial issue since I don't see the talent one.

....and there we have it.

Unbelievable...

[Jp7833]

Why does everything have to be about race? People are on Tim Tebow like stink on sh*t and he is white. Enough with the "It's racists!" Wake up it's 2011.

[JBourneMurkedU]

I think it's obvious that this is a race thing with #1 pick. He won't come out and say it, but he's hyping up his own race. The mention of Tyrod Taylor proves it. While I don't agree with it, it's his right to do so but he's letting skin color cloud his judgement. Reminds me of the article Jamelle Hill wrote on black QB's in the NFL. Way off base and ill informed.

[Voice of Reason]

I really think the hate love is racial than actually based on talent. Most of the posts in this thread are something an idiotic storm-front member could cook up. I am with you that his might be racial issue since I don't see the talent one.

Fixed for the actual truth.

GOD, I wish people could just be honest with their feelings.

[#1 pick]

One of the biggest risks about drafting Newton is that of character. Never heard of Manning cheating or stealing, or Brady or Rivers, or Brees or Freeman or the lesser Manning or Rogers or Schaub or Big Ben or Ryan... Can't think of a QB with a risky background succeeding right off the top of my head.

Who did that with Vick? Do you mean some of the fans or the team? Did you you ever expect for him to ever play for the falcons again after he lied to Blank?

Sorry, but if you're stupid enough to run an interstate gambling ring and lose a 100 million dollar contract, then you deserve to be criticized. Dogfighting wasn't even a felony in VA, if Vick had simply fought dogs in state, he would still be the Atlanta QB, he'd still have a 100 million dollars, he'd have another 3 years of game experience under his belt and might have matured into the QB he could have been.

As it stands now, he's started less than half the games he possibly could have in his career [160 possible starts, 79 starts] and no matter how he does from here on out, wasted 05-09, the prime of his career, fighting dogs.

It's a reparable claim and one that was looked into by the organization at in high regard as the team was about in invest a #1 overall pick on him.

Blank didn't draft Vick. He wasn't the owner then. Vick came with the team when he bought them. The team who own the Falcons seem to draft the player they felt could help the team the most. They really didn't seem to do much scouting looking at the draft classes from the 90's and 2000's as Vick was easily our best pick in those years. As for the other stuff you are saying, typical falconidae, currently living ten centimeters from Michael Vick's arseh*le. Watch your role kid. A member around here has a ton of info on you and he's been waiting for the right time to expose you. Don't play in fire because you will get burned.

[Borat]

Idiotic post.

You might be on the something. I remember when someone mention drafting Tyrod Taylor in the later rounds as a backup. I didn't find the suggestion to be a bad one. The guy was ridiculed. I really think the hate is racial than actually based on talent. Most of the posts in this thread are something an idiotic storm-front member could cook up. I am with you that his might be racial issue since I don't see the talent one.

I doubt we will hear his name, he's raw and Ryan is legit. Maybe someone like Dtan but they are just calling for Ryan's head no matter what.

That "someone" was "Spot on Dtan," he of 4 negs per post. And no, I doubt the "hate" is racially motivated. We all loved Vick; Pryor/Taylor just can't play.

And I disagree with your second paragraph. While his opinion is certainly a minority on these boards, Dtan's viewpoint is pretty prevalent among the black community. Some people just can't get over Vick, and, to them, Pryor is the next best thing. Think if Ryan had a bad game and we had Pryor (Mobile, big arm, black) waiting in the wings. Ryan would start to get more than a few boos. The FA does not want that type of controversy (Honestly, I think we as a city just can't handle having a black/UGA QB as a backup; too many people calling for him to unjustly start based on his race/school).

[Guest Gritz]

Watch your role kid. A member around here has a ton of info on you and he's been waiting for the right time to expose you. Don't play in fire because you will get burned.

this thread now has the chance to turn classic......

[JBourneMurkedU]

It's a reparable claim and one that was looked into by the organization at in high regard as the team was about in invest a #1 overall pick on him.

Blank didn't draft Vick. He wasn't the owner then. Vick came with the team when he bought them. The team who own the Falcons seem to draft the player they felt could help the team the most. They really didn't seem to do much scouting looking at the draft classes from the 90's and 2000's as Vick was easily our best pick in those years. As for the other stuff you are saying, typical falconidae, currently living ten centimeters from Michael Vick's arseh*le. Watch your role kid. A member around here has a ton of info on you and he's been waiting for the right time to expose you. Don't play in fire because you will get burned.

The quicker you admit to your opinions being racially motivated the more people might respect your opinion and understand it. Until then you're nothing more than the butt end of the joke.

[#1 pick]

I think it's obvious that this is a race thing with #1 pick. He won't come out and say it, but he's hyping up his own race. The mention of Tyrod Taylor proves it. While I don't agree with it, it's his right to do so but he's letting skin color cloud his judgement. Reminds me of the article Jamelle Hill wrote on black QB's in the NFL. Way off base and ill informed.

Whenever you can't defend your points, just run with a childish claim. The journal of idiotic behavior 101. What based facts have you come up with. You haven't came up with more than three logical claims. You are so pathetic. Vince Young? What? A two time pro bowler. NFL Rookie of the year. That's more than our starting QB who we think the world of. Then this idiot brings up Jemele Hill. You are damm disgrace to society.

....and there we have it.

Unbelievable...

We have what, that you're an imbecile. What content have you provided in this thread. ...and there we have it. Don't play yourself.

Edited August 13, 2011 by #1 pick

[JBourneMurkedU]

Why you mad?

You are a disgrace to the english language. Keep up your racially motivated opinions though. Classy all the way.

Edited August 13, 2011 by JBourneMurkedU