Xnex 407 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Maybe most people already knew about this situation, I'm not sure. I havent been following the news lately as much as I normally do. But when I read this story, my jaw dropped and I was disgusted to know that this man is of the same species I am.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/us/12brfs-Ciavarella.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Dog 445 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) messed up **** Edited August 12, 2011 by Lou_Dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GEORGIAfan 17,962 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I heard about this. Kids would be sent to this center for BS charges, so the state would pay the private corrections center. I heard one kid threw a steak at his dad and got 3 months sentence. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Dog 445 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I heard about this. Kids would be sent to this center for BS charges, so the state would pay the private corrections center. I heard one kid threw a steak at his dad and got 3 months sentence.Im with the judge on that one. If you waste a good steak they should toss your *** in the slammer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jimsmusic™ 2,119 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Im with the judge on that one. If you waste a good steak they should toss your *** in the slammer. this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Radical 386 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 28 years isn't long enough. Countless children had their lives potentially ruined or knocked off track because that sick f*ck. Not a surprise though. This is rampant in Georgia. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Serendipity 251 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yes let's privatize everything because the free market always knows best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Summerbunny 511 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 I agree with Radical 28 years is nothing. 4000 cases!!! Some of these children will never be the same. I think he should have to take the money and pay for getting these kids help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Made Soul 120 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yes let's privatize everything because the free market always knows best.The last I checked, the person handing down the sentence was a corrupt public official. And also please note, even as an advocate for capitalism, I do not want a privatized criminal justice system (courts, police, or prisons). The solution to overcrowded prisons is to free the prisoners who never violated the rights of anyone else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® 7,357 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Lol @ anyone who still has faith in the justice system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Radical 386 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 The last I checked, the person handing down the sentence was a corrupt public official. A corrupt public official that was bought out by a private business. That's like blaming the government for the Gulf Oil Spill because corruption in the government allowed these oil companies to get around regulations. The source of the problem lies in the corporation responsible, not the "government." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Made Soul 120 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 A corrupt public official that was bought out by a private business. That's like blaming the government for the Gulf Oil Spill because corruption in the government allowed these oil companies to get around regulations. The source of the problem lies in the corporation responsible, not the "government."I would consider the actual source of the problem to be not just the corporation that profited from unethical practices, not just the public official who illegally condemned minors to what amounts to slave labor prison, but primarily the people who enabled such actions by allowing the judge to do this for so long. There's no way he could have done this for any meaningful amount of time without bailiffs, clerks, prosecutors, accountants, prison workers, and police all looking the other way. They evade reality because they know that the only way to get along in their professions in that industry (as it is today) is to "play ball" and politic your way to the top.edit: misunderstood the allegations, I thought this was a prison labor for private interest deal. That's what I get for replying right after watching Shawshank Redemption. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CLofton50 297 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 There's a superior court judge down in Glynn County on the GA coast (Brunswick, Saint Simons) who has gained a lot of negative attention for the ridiculous sentences she hands out in drug court. Indefinite sentences, kids doing 5 years for minor offenses, etc.Wouldn't be surprised if she was getting her wheels greased by a rehab program or privatized probation office or something.http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/430/very-tough-love Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL Bear 390 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 Yes let's privatize everything because the free market always knows best.Someone confused "free market" with public corruption. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL Bear 390 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 A corrupt public official that was bought out by a private business. That's like blaming the government for the Gulf Oil Spill because corruption in the government allowed these oil companies to get around regulations. The source of the problem lies in the corporation responsible, not the "government."So explain how this "private business" would have convicted and sentenced the kids in this case? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Radical 386 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 (edited) So explain how this "private business" would have convicted and sentenced the kids in this case?They paid for it. Do you believe the corporation responsible for the bribing should be held just as responsible as the judge? Edited August 12, 2011 by Radical 2.0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CLofton50 297 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 They should throw the book at the company, then throw TWO books at the corrupt judge. Fry his azz for all I care. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Made Soul 120 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 They paid for it Do you believe the corporation responsible for the bribing should be held just as responsible as the judge?Whichever individuals that facilitated the bribe or engaged someone to go do so should indeed be held criminally responsible. The company itself should receive a fine equal to their profit margin in constructing the kiddy jail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ATL Bear 390 Posted August 12, 2011 Share Posted August 12, 2011 They paid for it. Do you believe the corporation responsible for the bribing should be held just as responsible as the judge?You can't really convict a corporation, but the individuals who facilitated and promoted it, absolutely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Serendipity 251 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Someone confused "free market" with public corruption.You want to privatize everything? sure no problem but you also need oversight and regulations to control human greed basically, just look at wall street and the banking industry. Those regualtions and oversight comes from what some of you think is the big bad government. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pencilpusher. just because 3,464 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 I heard about this. Kids would be sent to this center for BS charges, so the state would pay the private corrections center. I heard one kid threw a steak at his dad and got 3 months sentence.Maybe his dad was a vampire. Ohhh.."steak". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Self Made Soul 120 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 You want to privatize everything? sure no problem but you also need oversight and regulations to control human greed basically, just look at wall street and the banking industry. Those regualtions and oversight comes from what some of you think is the big bad government. I can't really find where ATL Bear suggested that everything should be privatized. Can you cite the source please? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zodiac 858 Posted August 13, 2011 Share Posted August 13, 2011 Why Go Home? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Serendipity 251 Posted August 14, 2011 Share Posted August 14, 2011 I can't really find where ATL Bear suggested that everything should be privatized. Can you cite the source please? :wacko: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twoism 258 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I saw this in "Captialism: A Love Story". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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