The bucs may jump to the top of the NFC South

[jgentry162]

The Bucs showed last year they are a solid team and were really in the hunt for the division title. Now reading that the Bucs are 46 million under the cap that they have to spend. With Freeman having another year and training camp under his belt, then add the players that 46 million can buy them, suddenly they may be the team to beat in the south. I sure hope I am wrong, but it is a scary thought or should I say nightmare.

[revenge]

The Bucs showed last year they are a solid team and were really in the hunt for the division title. Now reading that the Bucs are 46 million under the cap that they have to spend. With Freeman having another year and training camp under his belt, then add the players that 46 million can buy them, suddenly they may be the team to beat in the south. I sure hope I am wrong, but it is a scary thought or should I say nightmare.

did the Buc's eventually beat a team with a winning record last year?

[BleedBlack&Red]

did the Buc's eventually beat a team with a winning record last year?

low blow.....haha

[The Falcon Jedi Knight]

The Bucs are a good team. They were good last year. It will be a tough division to win for anybody

[The O.D.B]

You can buy boobs for your brother but it doesn't mean he's getting invited to the prom.............

[falken]

You can buy boobs for your brother but it doesn't mean he's getting invited to the prom.............

Pics or it never happened.

[Falcons115]

I think people are giving the Bucs a little too much credit, with that soft schedule they had to play they didn't even beat a winning team till the last game against the Saint's and they took their starter's out at halftime, heck they didn't even beat the Lions in TB. Let's see what they do this year before we call them a division champion.

[#1 pick]

The Bucs was starting a rookie RB who was darn near kicked out of school for most of the season and a WR who was kicked out of school for the whole season. Another WR wasn't even in the rotation. My expectations for them was worst than Carolina at this point last year. It was like 4-12. Freeman is the only reason they won the 10 games. THE ONLY REASON!

[revenge]

The Bucs was starting a rookie RB who was darn near kicked out of school for most of the season and a WR who was kicked out of school for the whole season. Another WR wasn't even in the rotation. My expectations for them was worst than Carolina at this point last year. It was like 4-12. Freeman is the only reason they won the 10 games. THE ONLY REASON!

playing the NFCW helped alot to

[#1 pick]

If they land a #1 or #2 CB, another lineman to replace Youngblood, an all purpose back, a slot WR, and an OLB. They will be just as good if not better than us. They were not that far from us last year with a super young team and they were more talented than us. Talib is one of the top 15 CB's in my opinion. Barber fell off. They need to answer that position but with Joseph or Nnamdi, not with Cromartie who just isn't a fit. If they get Nnamdi, WOW!

[#1 pick]

playing the NFCW helped alot to

It helped us all except Carolina.

[PeytonMannings Forehead]

The buzz surrounding the Bucs reminds me of about 4 years ago when the Cleveland Browns were coming off a 10-6 record and had just missed the playoffs. They were young, had a sexy offense with a young quarterback that surprised people and went to the Pro Bowl, a tough running game, one of the best offensive lines in the league... heck they even had Kellen Winslow. Everyone was looking for them to take the AFC North and make a deep playoff run. I kept trying to remind people that none of those 10 winds came against a team with a winning records.

They went 4-12 the next season.

[SyCo]

playing the NFCW helped alot to

Bucs may get exposed, but they have the most favorable schedule this year.. I still believe they are greatly over rated though

[#1 pick]

The buzz surrounding the Bucs reminds me of about 4 years ago when the Cleveland Browns were coming off a 10-6 record and had just missed the playoffs. They were young, had a sexy offense with a young quarterback that surprised people and went to the Pro Bowl, a tough running game, one of the best offensive lines in the league... heck they even had Kellen Winslow. Everyone was looking for them to take the AFC North and make a deep playoff run. I kept trying to remind people that none of those 10 winds came against a team with a winning records.

They went 4-12 the next season.

Derek Anderson looked like Kyle Orton from Denver that year. Edwards was playing out of his mind. He might have been the best WR that season on film. But Derek Anderson looked like Kyle Orton. He never looked close to an Eli Manning much less Josh Freeman. Epic reach especially considering it was Freeman who carried his team unlike Anderson.

[ch46745]

The Bucs showed last year they are a solid team and were really in the hunt for the division title. Now reading that the Bucs are 46 million under the cap that they have to spend. With Freeman having another year and training camp under his belt, then add the players that 46 million can buy them, suddenly they may be the team to beat in the south. I sure hope I am wrong, but it is a scary thought or should I say nightmare.

How can you say that the Bucs may be the team to beat in the division if both the Falcons and the Saints are better teams and one of them Freeman is 0-4 against.........GUESS WHO!!!!!!!

[DD: Objective Elite]

Pics or it never happened.

I think that would violate the CoC

[PeytonMannings Forehead]

Derek Anderson looked like Kyle Orton from Denver that year. Edwards was playing out of his mind. He might have been the best WR that season on film. But Derek Anderson looked like Kyle Orton. He never looked close to an Eli Manning much less Josh Freeman. Epic reach especially considering it was Freeman who carried his team unlike Anderson.

Not an epic reach at all, my friend. The parallels are there. Anderson, only 24 at the time, showed flashes of being a franchise quarterback. It's that season that had kept him getting jobs. 29 touchdown passes and a Pro Bowl berth. And Kyle Orton gets a bad rap. He's a good quarterback. A team with a solid corp could do a lot worse than Kyle Orton.

And the epic reach is the insinuation that the Bucs only won because of Freeman. Mike Williams played out of his mind and Blount was no pushover when he got it going, not to mention a pesky, if under-skilled defense that consistently fought for 4 quarters.

[ch46745]

Not an epic reach at all, my friend. The parallels are there. Anderson, only 24 at the time, showed flashes of being a franchise quarterback. It's that season that had kept him getting jobs. 29 touchdown passes and a Pro Bowl berth. And Kyle Orton gets a bad rap. He's a good quarterback. A team with a solid corp could do a lot worse than Kyle Orton.

And the epic reach is the insinuation that the Bucs only won because of Freeman. Mike Williams played out of his mind and Blount was no pushover when he got it going, not to mention a pesky, if under-skilled defense that consistently fought for 4 quarters.

I agree, the media and some people forget that Josh Freeman did not actually win those games by himself.

[#1 pick]

Not an epic reach at all, my friend. The parallels are there. Anderson, only 24 at the time, showed flashes of being a franchise quarterback. It's that season that had kept him getting jobs. 29 touchdown passes and a Pro Bowl berth. And Kyle Orton gets a bad rap. He's a good quarterback. A team with a solid corp could do a lot worse than Kyle Orton.

And the epic reach is the insinuation that the Bucs only won because of Freeman. Mike Williams played out of his mind and Blount was no pushover when he got it going, not to mention a pesky, if under-skilled defense that consistently fought for 4 quarters.

Orton is a journeyman. He has average talent, no real intangibles, decent arm and decent accuracy and nothing really stands out.

Anderson that year had a cannon. He wasn't smart but teams didn't have a good scouting report on him so they didn't test his aptitude due to the run game and teams focus on making sure Lewis, Edwards, or Winslow wouldn't be you. His accuracy was average that year. No intangibles and they won based on Lewis and Edwards taking over more than Anderson. I can't recall how many times Edwards bailed out Anderson that season. A ton it seemed.

Williams had talent but it seemed like Freeman made him better. It wasn't Williams ever bailing him out. Freeman gave him the ball in a position to succeed which is the playmaking QB #1 responsibility.

Blount was very good once teams gameplan mainly was focused on Freeman. It gave him lanes that wouldn't be open otherwise. I can see why he was cut by Tennessee. He could awhile to understand when it hit a lane and at what speed. Freeman really helped him but Blount has so much potential. He reminds me of the white guy in Cleveland who is on the cover of Madden. Can't think of his name right now.

Edited July 28, 2011 by #1 pick

[ch46745]

Orton is a journeyman. He has average talent, no real intangibles, decent arm and decent accuracy and nothing really stands out.

Anderson that year had a cannon. He wasn't smart but teams didn't have a good scouting report on him so they didn't test his aptitude due to the run game and teams focus on making sure Lewis, Edwards, or Winslow wouldn't be you. His accuracy was average that year. No intangibles and they won based on Lewis and Edwards taking over more than Anderson. I can't recall how many times Edwards bailed out Anderson that season. A ton it seemed.

Williams had talent but it seemed like Freeman made him better. It wasn't Williams ever bailing him out. Freeman gave him the ball in a position to succeed which is the playmaking QB #1 responsibility.

Blount was very good once teams gameplan mainly was focused on Freeman. It gave him lanes that wouldn't be open otherwise. I can see why he was cut by Tennessee. He could awhile to understand when it hit a lane and at what speed. Freeman really helped him but Blount has so much potential. He reminds me of the white guy in Cleveland who is on the cover of Madden. Can't think of his name right now.

Mike Williams was one of the top 5 college wrs and a potential first round pick until his departure from Syracuse. Blount was talked about as a 2nd to 3rd round pick before the Boise State indecent. They both are good players that maid bad decisions and paid for them when draft time came, but they are both were potential early round talent.

[#1 pick]

Mike Williams was one of the top 5 college wrs and a potential first round pick until his departure from Syracuse. Blount was talked about as a 2nd to 3rd round pick before the Boise State indecent. They both are good players that maid bad decisions and paid for them when draft time came, but they are both were potential early round talent.

That's speculation. That's not fact or anything. Tyrelle Pryor would have been a first rounder if he came out next year type nonsense. Unless it is what really happened like Randy Moss or Dez Bryant where it was clear that he was a top talent with baggage that dropped than I generally don't take it serious. The Bengals drafted a small RB with dreads who was arrested a thousand times and was from a small school called Abilene Christian because of his talent. If people really thought Blount was that good, they would have drafted him. He wasn't to most evaluators. He signed with the Titans as an UDFA. Got cut for Javon Ringer. Signed with the Bucs and impressed. You can say, well you know why he wasn't drafted high and etc. But others have been drafted with far worst criminal records. The scouts just didn't think he was that good. He runs high. Poor technique. Ball security issues. Not very versatile. Didn't read holes well nor did he know how to run like a successful RB. He improved a lot in Tampa but their was a reason he was cut, remember that. He always had talent.

Mike Williams was kicked out(quit) of school. He didn't play much Football that year. Almost all the guys usually like Williams rarely have any type of impact as a rookie. Williams did. You can have a ton of talent but that type of success is usually related to the system or the QB. When I watched, it was mainly the QB.

Edited July 28, 2011 by #1 pick

[ch46745]

That's speculation. That's not fact or anything. Tyrelle Pryor would have been a first rounder if he came out next year type nonsense. Unless it is what really happened like Randy Moss or Dez Bryant where it was clear that he was a top talent with baggage that dropped than I generally don't take it serious. The Bengals drafted a small RB with dreads who was arrested a thousand times and was from a small school called Abilene Christian because of his talent. If people really thought Blount was that good, they would have drafted him. He wasn't to most evaluators. He signed with the Titans as an UDFA. Got cut for Javon Ringer. Signed with the Bucs and impressed. You can say, well you know why he wasn't drafted high and etc. But others have been drafted with far worst criminal records. The scouts just didn't think he was that good. He runs high. Poor technique. Ball security issues. Not very versatile. Didn't read holes well nor did he know how to run like a successful RB. He improved a lot in Tampa but their was a reason he was cut, remember that. He always had talent.

Mike Williams was kicked out(quit) of school. He didn't play much Football that year. Almost all the guys usually like Williams rarely have any type of impact as a rookie. Williams did. You can have a ton of talent but that type of success is usually related to the system or the QB. When I watched, it was mainly the QB.

The main problem that I have is that you are giving Freeman too much credit, if he was so good then why did the Bucs lost to the lions and would have lost to the Skins if their kicker didn't miss that last second extra point kick.

[radio24]

Tampa was a team that was supposed to have a top 3 pick in the draft before last season started.

Tampa Bay had the 2nd youngest roster in the league last year.

Considering Freeman wasn't even on anyone's radar before last season and now's he's one of the top 100 players in the NFL speaks volumes about him. Williams is another draft steal who is a top 100 player.

How any falcon fan can turn their noses up at the Bucs is beyond me.

The falcons were SB contenders last season and the Bucs were supposed to finish last behind the panthers yet the both games were fought for 60 minutes.

Here's to another heated divisional battle in 2012

[#1 pick]

The main problem that I have is that you are giving Freeman too much credit, if he was so good then why did the Bucs lost to the lions and would have lost to the Skins if their kicker didn't miss that last second extra point kick.

This is the NFL. Win and losses aren't based on one player but they sure can put you on their back hence the Michael Vick experience in Atlanta. Looking at Aaron Rodgers, he put his team on his back v. Philly and Atlanta in the playoffs. Sure, it wasn't just him who won the game but he was superior and mainly the reason why the final score was what it was. We could have lost the 49ers and Saints game but we won. It's just life man.

[ch46745]

This is the NFL. Win and losses aren't based on one player but they sure can put you on their back hence the Michael Vick experience in Atlanta. Looking at Aaron Rodgers, he put his team on his back v. Philly and Atlanta in the playoffs. Sure, it wasn't just him who won the game but he was superior and mainly the reason why the final score was what it was. We could have lost the 49ers and Saints game but we won. It's just life man.

I get what you are saying but Freeman still needed some of his player to play at a high level to get those 10 wins, wasn't like he was just like Peyton or Brady. Rodgers did excellent job against Atlanta and Philly but the Packers had a top 5 defense was just a big of factor in those games as he was.