sharky Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Don't seem like we're gonna pick up a DE. Maybe Davis will get more play time, I don't know but somebody need to step it up two or three notches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sad part about it, LDE isn't the main problem on the line. I keep trying to tell everyone that. We need a consistant pass rush from the DT. Outside of Babs the only person that gave us a spark at DT was Anderson and that aint good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman123 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sad part about it, LDE isn't the main problem on the line. I keep trying to tell everyone that. We need a consistant pass rush from the DT. Outside of Babs the only person that gave us a spark at DT was Anderson and that aint good.Have u been watching falcons games last year ? or do you just not know about peters or jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Have u been watching falcons games last year ? or do you just not know about peters or jerryJerry and Peters did not make a significant impact on our line last year. If they did the people on this board would not be calling for Biermann and Sid to step up or be replaced. Biermann especially, since he is the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Fanatic Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Bierman and Sid better step up their game. Don't seem like we're gonna pick up a DE. For TD's sake they better because if they don't and we stand pat with our current defense this could be one long year ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman123 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) If we dont get a DE we need to sign a corner ! Edited July 26, 2011 by batman123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kane#7 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 If we dont get a DE we need to sing a corner !I agree what corner should we all meet up at sing at??And what song? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman123 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I agree what corner should we all meet up at sing at??And what song?lol Sign my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Jerry and Peters did not make a significant impact on our line last year. If they did the people on this board would not be calling for Biermann and Sid to step up or be replaced. Biermann especially, since he is the starter.This is a circular argument if I've ever seen one. so in a nutshell, if the DTs had done the job of the DE we wouldn't be having this debate. That may be true but effectively hiding a weakness on a defense doesn't actually make the weakness go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 This is a circular argument if I've ever seen one. so in a nutshell, if the DTs had done the job of the DE we wouldn't be having this debate. That may be true but effectively hiding a weakness on a defense doesn't actually make the weakness go away.Consistant pressure from the LDT or whatever he is called will go a long way for the LDE. That was the reason we drafted Jerry in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strat1080 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Consistant pressure from the LDT or whatever he is called will go a long way for the LDE. That was the reason we drafted Jerry in the first place.Whether or not the Falcons get more rush from the LDE or DT is besides the point. The fact is they need more rush period. Although, it was a lack of a push from the interior that got them killed against Atlanta. Troy Aikman said it clear as day. He said there was no push at all in the interior and that allowed Rodgers to step up and makes throws from inside and outside the pocket. Your rush can't come only from the outside. I've always maintained that you need at least three disruptive players in your defensive front to have an elite defense. It helps to have two really good edge rushers but you also need some push from the interior as well. Otherwise QBs will just step up all day long and complete throws. Its pretty easy to block edge rushers if you don't have to worry about the DTs. The Tackles just push them wide and they are a non-factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Its pretty easy to block edge rushers if you don't have to worry about the DTs. The Tackles just push them wide and they are a non-factor.So you actually understand what I'm sayin lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 They better get replaced. Sid has shown me nothing, and Biermann has shown me he's a rotational guy and not a starter.Maybe they will show the coaches something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 LDE is a problem. I didn't see Kroy get doubled at all. He couldn't beat his man on a consistent basis. That isn't good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del-Falcon21 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'm expecting big things from sid the kid... He better not disappoint me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'm expecting big things from sid the kid... He better not disappoint me.Yeah I think Sid has that swagga. I'm definately not too high about Bierman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachx Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Yeah I think Sid has that swagga. I'm definately not too high about Bierman.Huh ?Sid doesn't even have enough "swagga" to consistently be on the active roster yet. At least Biermann has made some big time plays in real games.I'm pulling for Sidbury too but like to be realistic. Maybe the Falcons can get Babin to help amp up the pass rush. Then let Biermann be that rotational pass rusher to spell both Abe and Babin. Then Biermann could still be used on special teams too.Biermann has proven to be a good pass rusher when he can play fresh. However, you cannot expect your starting DE to sprint down the field covering kicksoffs. Then 30 seconds later rush the passer. I bet Biermann was the only starting DE in the NFL who was consistently covering kickoffs last season. I bet he will not be asked to do that again. Edited July 27, 2011 by coachx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Huh ?Sid doesn't even have enough "swagga" to consistently be on the active roster yet. At least Biermann has made some big time plays in real games.I'm pulling for Sidbury too but like to be realistic. Maybe the Falcons can get Babin to help amp up the pass rush. Biermann has proven to be a good pass rusher when he can play fresh. However, you cannot expect your starting DE to sprint down the field covering kicksoffs. Then 30 seconds later rush the passer. I bet Biermann was the only starting DE in the NFL who was consistently covering kickoffs last season. I bet he will not be asked to do that again.You might be right but I still don't see Biermann as the answer at LDE. I truely hope the FO do something about this serious problem we have or we'll be in the same situation. Somebody has to step it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I MUS WRITE Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I'm expecting big things from sid the kid... He better not disappoint me.Wow....the guy didnt dress most of last season....Did i miss something. If we are depending on Sid and Beirrman to provide a consistent pass rush we are in trouble folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kschreck Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Consistant pressure from the LDT or whatever he is called will go a long way for the LDE. That was the reason we drafted Jerry in the first place.I understand the concept. My point is that IMO (and sure it's just an opinion) we do not have a starting caliber LDE. We have some young guys in the middle who will hopefully continue to develop. I just don't see Kroy as anything more than a great guy to have in the rotation.A DT getting pressure will not change the fact that we need a LDE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del-Falcon21 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Wow....the guy didnt dress most of last season....Did i miss something. If we are depending on Sid and Beirrman to provide a consistent pass rush we are in trouble folks.Thats why I'm expecting something from him... He sat out the whole year doing nothing. It's time to put that nothing into something! In addition, you would think he might learn a thing or two with different techniques to pass rush effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I understand the concept. My point is that IMO (and sure it's just an opinion) we do not have a starting caliber LDE. We have some young guys in the middle who will hopefully continue to develop. I just don't see Kroy as anything more than a great guy to have in the rotation.A DT getting pressure will not change the fact that we need a LDE.Strongly agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonious Mingus Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sid and Bier are both not the answer we need another DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I understand the concept. My point is that IMO (and sure it's just an opinion) we do not have a starting caliber LDE. We have some young guys in the middle who will hopefully continue to develop. I just don't see Kroy as anything more than a great guy to have in the rotation.A DT getting pressure will not change the fact that we need a LDE.I got faith in my dude Biermann so I'm ready to see what he soes this year. He should have a chip on his shoulder from everyone basically saying he isn't a starting DE at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I got faith in my dude Biermann so I'm ready to see what he soes this year. He should have a chip on his shoulder from everyone basically saying he isn't a starting DE at this level.Well he probably don't have what it takes, not from a natural standpoint of view. If he did we wouldn't be talking about this position right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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