Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 All this time we have been led to believe that all was ok."Don't worry about those picks... You'll be fiiiiiiinnnnnnnne."And now this.Entire right side of the line...GONE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) Clearly we should have traded picks with another team we knew would have higher picks than us going into last year so that we could trade down and draft and entire offensive line to start Day 1. That's how I do it in Madden and it works every time. Better yet, Dimitroff could just look at the overall player scores of current backups, figure out which teams are stupid and starting guys with lower overall scores and potential ratings than the second stringers, and trade them some low picks and dead weight for instant starters.I'm the smartest guy in the world! Edited July 25, 2011 by Serge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falcons faithful Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 All this time we have been led to believe that all was ok."Don't worry about those picks... You'll be fiiiiiiinnnnnnnne."And now this.Entire right side of the line...GONE!You do know you will get lots of neg's for this but You so right we gave away to much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 if TD lets clabo go, he can gtfo real quick like.clabo is a dam good RT he's worth a 4-5 year conract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interceptor430 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 how could our OL sustain with changes and our playbook improve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Dimitroff should have drafted OL the past 2 years....oh wait he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 if TD lets clabo go, he can gtfo real quick like.clabo is a dam good RT he's worth a 4-5 year conract.Thats according to how much Clabo wants. If Clabo wants more than say 7 mil a year then he can leave with ease. He is a good RT but no RT deserves that kind of money. I would much rather pay 7+ mil for a legit LT and move Baker to Rt if need be than pay Clabo 7+ mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Dimitroff should have drafted OL the past 2 years....oh wait he didYeah i remember him doing that as well Clabo is the only 1 of the 3 that i would really want back that badly and even him i wouldn't go crazy spending on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 All this time we have been led to believe that all was ok."Don't worry about those picks... You'll be fiiiiiiinnnnnnnne."And now this.Entire right side of the line...GONE!So, that article says they may be gone and the Falcons have planned for that contingency. Funny how it seems much less alarming when you actually read the article, rather than your synopsis.So, I can side with you, An anonymous Vick obsessed fan who's much more excited about what the Eagles are than the falcons and be worried about the Oline FAs or I can side with the two time executive of the year who gets paid 7 figures to make the decisions and who says he's got it covered.I will admit TD is human and makes mistakes, still taking him over the anonymous Vick fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 So, that article says they may be gone and the Falcons have planned for that contingency. Funny how it seems much less alarming when you actually read the article, rather than your synopsis.So, I can side with you, An anonymous Vick obsessed fan who's much more excited about what the Eagles are than the falcons and be worried about the Oline FAs or I can side with the two time executive of the year who gets paid 7 figures to make the decisions and who says he's got it covered.I will admit TD is human and makes mistakes, still taking him over the anonymous Vick fan.I've won just as many playoff games for this franchise as TD has...I want my 7 figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 So, that article says they may be gone and the Falcons have planned for that contingency. Funny how it seems much less alarming when you actually read the article, rather than your synopsis.So, I can side with you, An anonymous Vick obsessed fan who's much more excited about what the Eagles are than the falcons and be worried about the Oline FAs or I can side with the two time executive of the year who gets paid 7 figures to make the decisions and who says he's got it covered.I will admit TD is human and makes mistakes, still taking him over the anonymous Vick fan.Dimitroff get's paid 7 figures? No wonder we don't have cap room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Idiots coming out of the woodwork around here.Mr Right, Coaches and Admin personnel above them DON'T COUNT AGAINST THE CAP!! Duh!! Did you write that just to act stupid or do you really believe that stupidity.Daddy's Home, TD has created a team that has been to more playoff games and he has better hair than you, so maybe next time. Also go back and look at the games and realize the O-line isn't that good, it is ok, but ok doesn't win playoff games. So the line HAS TO CHANGE to have any hope of going farther that one and done. It is a simple fact of life there were just too many holes to fix it fast without spending huge amounts of cash. Now we drafted O-line, and they have been training for 1-2 years and so should be ready to step in for the guys we currently have. If you really believe Dahl and Clabo are all that then I have a nice bridge to sell you, it currently is in New York, but you could easily move it to your back yard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Idiots coming out of the woodwork around here.Mr Right, Coaches and Admin personnel above them DON'T COUNT AGAINST THE CAP!! Duh!! Did you write that just to act stupid or do you really believe that stupidity.Daddy's Home, TD has created a team that has been to more playoff games and he has better hair than you, so maybe next time. Also go back and look at the games and realize the O-line isn't that good, it is ok, but ok doesn't win playoff games. So the line HAS TO CHANGE to have any hope of going farther that one and done. It is a simple fact of life there were just too many holes to fix it fast without spending huge amounts of cash. Now we drafted O-line, and they have been training for 1-2 years and so should be ready to step in for the guys we currently have. If you really believe Dahl and Clabo are all that then I have a nice bridge to sell you, it currently is in New York, but you could easily move it to your back yard.If you believe that our 4th-7th round draft picks will turn out to be better than what we have now and won't set our offense back, I have a floating city to sell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Ideally I would like to keep Dahl and Clabo. But Clabo made the Pro Bowl and teams will be bidding really high for him, and Dahl isnt worth overpaying for he can be replaced for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 All this time we have been led to believe that all was ok."Don't worry about those picks... You'll be fiiiiiiinnnnnnnne."And now this.Entire right side of the line...GONE!umm.. ok?we have 3 Days to talk and resign our own FAs before URFA begins.Dahl and Clabo are both around their 30s and Olinemen are notoriously known for going down a cliff around age 32.whoever the ****tards are that throw 45 Mil for 5 or 6 years can do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) If you believe that our 4th-7th round draft picks will turn out to be better than what we have now and won't set our offense back, I have a floating city to sell you.Umm.. Dahl and Clabo were UDFAs...Reynolds has been groomed for this job for 2 years and if Johnson doesn't work out we can always kick Hawley over there and take Ben Jones in this years 2nd round Edited July 25, 2011 by Zodiac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 If you believe that our 4th-7th round draft picks will turn out to be better than what we have now and won't set our offense back, I have a floating city to sell you.McClure--drafted 7th roundBlalock--drafted 2nd roundDahl--undrafted Free agent---DallasClabo--Undrafted Free Agent--Denver4-7 is the standard rounds to draft O-line unless you happen to get a really special player coming around and you don't have any holes that really need plugging. If you go back and even glance at the thoughts on this board and others at our O-line when it was originally announced then you would see the same kind of teeth gnashing as currently going on. Mr. Right, you just don't like the Falcons and TD, because your favorite player was an idiot while he was here. Go to the Eagles board.Quite frankly if the new guys can't do better than the mediocre crew we currently have then we have a much bigger issue than most people think. Our line isn't that good, and we really needed to change it. Now we are and people are S####### a brick about a probable upgrade at a position of need. The guys sat on the bench and learned worked in the system so they could step in with as little trouble as possible. I personally can hardly wait for the new line, because if you paid attention to last year, you would have seen clearly it was greatly needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimsmusic™ Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 umm.. ok?we have 3 Days to talk and resign our own FAs before URFA begins.Dahl and Clabo are both around their 30s and Olinemen are notoriously known for going down a cliff around age 32.whoever the ****tards are that throw 45 Mil for 5 or 6 years can do it...4-year deal for clabo. dahl can go. mike johnson can fill in his spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Idiots coming out of the woodwork around here.Mr Right, Coaches and Admin personnel above them DON'T COUNT AGAINST THE CAP!! Duh!! Did you write that just to act stupid or do you really believe that stupidity.Daddy's Home, TD has created a team that has been to more playoff games and he has better hair than you, so maybe next time. Also go back and look at the games and realize the O-line isn't that good, it is ok, but ok doesn't win playoff games. So the line HAS TO CHANGE to have any hope of going farther that one and done. It is a simple fact of life there were just too many holes to fix it fast without spending huge amounts of cash. Now we drafted O-line, and they have been training for 1-2 years and so should be ready to step in for the guys we currently have. If you really believe Dahl and Clabo are all that then I have a nice bridge to sell you, it currently is in New York, but you could easily move it to your back yard.Let's see:All-Pro WR; checkPro-Bowl RB; checkPro-Bowl FB; checkHall of Fame TE; check3 Time Executive of The Year; checkCoach of The Year; checkTrade 5 Picks to Draft a WR with the 6th Overall Pick; checkWill Young Ryan Ever Be Held Accountable For Anything?; NO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodiac Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 4-year deal for clabo. dahl can go. mike johnson can fill in his spot.I wouldn't give Clabo a 4 year deal unless the first 2 years are front loaded and the last 2 are vet mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Let's see:All-Pro WR; checkPro-Bowl RB; checkPro-Bowl FB; checkHall of Fame TE; check3 Time Executive of The Year; checkCoach of The Year; checkTrade 5 Picks to Draft a WR with the 6th Overall Pick; checkWill Young Ryan Ever Be Held Accountable For Anything?; NO!You don't draft a first round O-line usually because they typically can't just move in and start. There are few exceptions but generally speaking you don't draft a guy who will not be good enough to start in the first round because of money. Baker, meh, look at his press and understand he should be getting better and would have been better to have taken him later and let him ride the pine, similar to what our current crop of young O-line has been doing.As to the quality of current O-line, I need to find Tandy's charts on seconds until Ryan gets the ball out and when he get's hit. It is sad to say it was around 2 seconds before he was smacked most times. What we had wasn't all that good, and was made to be vastly better by a young QB who knew how to get the ball out FAST! So unless you can post a huge difference making O-lineman who we could have gotten in the first round this year that will make more of a difference than the quality we currently have in our system and the difference Jones should make in the schemes used against us, then Stuff-It. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamee101 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm gonna trust the guy that's built the squad over all the armchair GMs who have all the answers and are ready to get rid of him if he makes a decision to let the "wrong guy" go.Ideally I'd like to see us let Blalock go as I'm not too high on him. Never have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 You don't draft a first round O-line usually because they typically can't just move in and start.Give me an example of an offensive linemen that was drafted in the first round but did not start?I can think of plenty that did start on day one: Jake Long, Michael Oher, Jeff Otah, Sam Baker, Ryan Clady, Brandon Albert, Alex Mack, Eric Wood, etc... It seems like it's the other way around, i.e. it is rare for a first round offensive linemen to not start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 You don't draft a first round O-line usually because they typically can't just move in and start. There are few exceptions but generally speaking you don't draft a guy who will not be good enough to start in the first round because of money. Baker, meh, look at his press and understand he should be getting better and would have been better to have taken him later and let him ride the pine, similar to what our current crop of young O-line has been doing.As to the quality of current O-line, I need to find Tandy's charts on seconds until Ryan gets the ball out and when he get's hit. It is sad to say it was around 2 seconds before he was smacked most times. What we had wasn't all that good, and was made to be vastly better by a young QB who knew how to get the ball out FAST! So unless you can post a huge difference making O-lineman who we could have gotten in the first round this year that will make more of a difference than the quality we currently have in our system and the difference Jones should make in the schemes used against us, then Stuff-It.Is MattyRattic your cousin?You are in denial dude.Under what scenario would you be willing to blame Young Ryan for anything?Does he have to throw a blatant pick 6 in broad daylight in route to the worst playoff defeat in NFL history? While being a home favorite?Goodness... It's not like the Packers needed any help.We need a decent QB.I'm the first to admit that a franchise can win with Young Ryan at QB.But, boy, he sure can blow it for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three Radical Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 You do know you will get lots of neg's for this but You so right we gave away to muchAnd you used to stalk FFS1970 around for knocking Jamaal Anderson. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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