Mr. Right Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 With the deficient planning by Young Tom, three of our offensive linemen, including a Pro-Bowler, are set to hit the free agency. This comes at an extremely inopportune time as the Falcons are making a desperate Superbowl push. But while this in itself is a huge tragedy, as it takes time for an offensive line to gel together and we need a solid offensive line to protect Ryan, perhaps an even bigger problem is who will replace them?Many fans have pointed out that Young Tom has secretly drafted offensive linemen to replace our current starters. While we have indeed selected several linemen in the draft: OT-Garret Reynolds (2009), OG-Mike Johnson (2010), OG-Joe Hawley (2010), OG-Andrew Jackson (2011), believing that they will take over flawlessly is perhaps the greatest wool Tomfoolery has ever pulled over our faces.Let's take a look at Dimitroff's draft history:20081 Matt Ryan1 Sam Baker2 Curtis Lofton3 Chevis Jackson 3 Harry Douglas3 Thomas DeCoud--- 5 Robert James5 Kroy Biermann6 Thomas Brown7 Wilrey Fontenot 20091 Peria Jerry2 William Moore3 Christopher Owens---4 Lawrence Sidbury5 William Middleton5 Garrett Reynolds6 Spencer Adkins7 Vance Walker20101 Sean Weatherspoon3 Corey Peters 3 Mike Johnson---4 Joe Hawley5 Dominique Franks5 Kerry Meier6 Shann SchillingerAs you can tell from our previous drafts, Dimitroff has brought in some impact players. This includes Ryan, Lofton, Moore, etc... But one thing you may notice is that these impact players were drafted in the first three rounds, if not the first two rounds. In fact, under Dimitroff, the Falcons have never drafted a starting caliber or impact player after the first three rounds. The only exception is Kroy Biermann, who albeit has made an impact for our team, is not starting caliber. (Why the talk about Johnson or Edwards then? Why did Roddy say he wanted us to draft a defensive player?) Dominque Franks is the only other notable player after the third round.Let's see how our 4-7 rounders have fared: (I left out OL, Biermann, Franks)James - Waived and is now on the practice squadBrown - releasedFontenot -released-Sidbury - didn't play a snap last yearMiddleton - releasedAdkins - played mainly special teamsWalker - at best a rotational player-Meier - didn't play a snap last year, at best will be a 3rd string WRSchillinger - didn't play a snap last yearIn fact, even many third round picks are very questionable players:Chevis Jackson - releasedHarry Douglas - hasn't made an impactThomas DeCoud - starterChristopher Owens - was humiliated in the playoffsCorey Peters - decent rotational playerSo while Tomfoolery has drafted four offensive linemen, three of them were drafted after the third round and the one exception was drafted in the third round. Given the track record of our past picks after and in the third round, are we to expect that there is no problem with our offensive line? Are we suddenly going to have three, new ,stud starters on the offensive line given the fact that under Tomfoolery, the Falcons have never drafted a starting caliber player after the third round? And even our sole offensive linemen drafted in the first two rounds is Sam Baker, who by no means is a top LT.The Falcons best bet is to either re-sign all three offensive linemen, bring in starting caliber linemen from the FA, or transition to a dink and dunk West Coast Offense. Otherwise, we may see a mediocre Falcon offense for years to come as our three 'turnstiles' turn Young Ryan into David Carr (without the mobility). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahFixed-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevykev21 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 You contraDICKed yourself all the time.You whine and complain so much, and it's sad at how miserable you must be in life. Just end it and put yourself out of misery for your own good.Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Next will come his attempt to give his thread 5 stars with all of his multiple accounts..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Why do people even reply and argue in these threads? Just let it fall off of the front page instead of making 20 pages of replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taymattluke Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 With the deficient planning by Young Tom, three of our offensive linemen, including a Pro-Bowler, are set to hit the free agency. This comes at an extremely inopportune time as the Falcons are making a desperate Superbowl push. But while this in itself is a huge tragedy, as it takes time for an offensive line to gel together and we need a solid offensive line to protect Ryan, perhaps an even bigger problem is who will replace them?Many fans have pointed out that Young Tom has secretly drafted offensive linemen to replace our current starters. While we have indeed selected several linemen in the draft: OT-Garret Reynolds (2009), OG-Mike Johnson (2010), OG-Joe Hawley (2010), OG-Andrew Jackson (2011), believing that they will take over flawlessly is perhaps the greatest wool Tomfoolery has ever pulled over our faces.Let's take a look at Dimitroff's draft history:20081 Matt Ryan1 Sam Baker2 Curtis Lofton3 Chevis Jackson 3 Harry Douglas3 Thomas DeCoud--- 5 Robert James5 Kroy Biermann6 Thomas Brown7 Wilrey Fontenot 20091 Peria Jerry2 William Moore3 Christopher Owens---4 Lawrence Sidbury5 William Middleton5 Garrett Reynolds6 Spencer Adkins7 Vance Walker20101 Sean Weatherspoon3 Corey Peters 3 Mike Johnson---4 Joe Hawley5 Dominique Franks5 Kerry Meier6 Shann SchillingerAs you can tell from our previous drafts, Dimitroff has brought in some impact players. This includes Ryan, Lofton, Moore, etc... But one thing you may notice is that these impact players were drafted in the first three rounds, if not the first two rounds. In fact, under Dimitroff, the Falcons have never drafted a starting caliber or impact player after the first three rounds. The only exception is Kroy Biermann, who albeit has made an impact for our team, is not starting caliber. (Why the talk about Johnson or Edwards then? Why did Roddy say he wanted us to draft a defensive player?) Dominque Franks is the only other notable player after the third round.Let's see how our 4-7 rounders have fared: (I left out OL, Biermann, Franks)James - Waived and is now on the practice squadBrown - releasedFontenot -released-Sidbury - didn't play a snap last yearMiddleton - releasedAdkins - played mainly special teamsWalker - at best a rotational player-Meier - didn't play a snap last year, at best will be a 3rd string WRSchillinger - didn't play a snap last yearIn fact, even many third round picks are very questionable players:Chevis Jackson - releasedHarry Douglas - hasn't made an impactThomas DeCoud - starterChristopher Owens - was humiliated in the playoffsCorey Peters - decent rotational playerSo while Tomfoolery has drafted four offensive linemen, three of them were drafted after the third round and the one exception was drafted in the third round. Given the track record of our past picks after and in the third round, are we to expect that there is no problem with our offensive line? Are we suddenly going to have three, new ,stud starters on the offensive line given the fact that under Tomfoolery, the Falcons have never drafted a starting caliber player after the third round? And even our sole offensive linemen drafted in the first two rounds is Sam Baker, who by no means is a top LT.The Falcons best bet is to either re-sign all three offensive linemen, bring in starting caliber linemen from the FA, or transition to a dink and dunk West Coast Offense. Otherwise, we may see a mediocre Falcon offense for years to come as our three 'turnstiles' turn Young Ryan into David Carr (without the mobility).Hey ....I finally figured out who you are !!...I should have known..Your Terrance Moore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Roddy wants us to sign James Harrison. Nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Why do people even reply and argue in these threads? Just let it fall off of the front page instead of making 20 pages of repliesYou replied though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron360 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 All true but still not soon enough to say he hasn't found a diamond in the rough. Our roster is packed with talent so much so that players that where drafted can't get playing time. Sure no one but beirman shows alot of promise, still it's not to say that franks can't be successful or Rogers. Theres simply not enough data to come to the conclusion you are trying to assume. You are actually only comparing 2 draft class' since our 10 class late rounds aren't going to see rotation and our current draft class won't see much this year. So yes in 2 seasons we have decoud, bier man. We also have grimes, UDFA less than a 7th rounder.weems also UDFA so technically 3diamonds in the rough 2 of which made the pro bowl.In technically 2 draft class's. It would be herd pressed to find another GM with that kinda success . And who knows about the next 2 years of class's, but I think we may have 1 or 2 more.So your argument is true but impractical with the data. Of coarse he did manage GM of the year 2x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron360 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Also your talkiin about he got 1 starter out of 6 late picks. Beirman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Ive never seen a team have 3 starting O-Linemen hit free-agency at the same time. I think we should have already wrapped up at least 1 or 2 of them before it came to this.Furthermore, we will be losing McClure to retirement soon, and this is likely his final season if he plays this year. So make that 4 linemen possibly all leaving within 1 year, or at least 3. Thats not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdoc57 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I think if we had been in a normal year some of these contracts would have been handled allready, extensions...etc. I still think we will be fine, players allways have said that FA isnt about the money...but to be able to play where you want to. I believe our FA are happy here and thus should be easier to retain. just mho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzummo Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Name a GM that has done better over the past 3 drafts. One. The way you are acting you would think you could name 31. As it is, I just want one example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 Name a GM that has done better over the past 3 drafts. One. The way you are acting you would think you could name 31. As it is, I just want one example.I'm sure I can find several GMs that have done better than Dimitroff in the past 3 years. However, that was not the point of the post. The point is that, Dimitroff expects us to feel assured about the offensive line when he has a terrible track record from the 4-7th rounds, which is where he drafted our so called 'future' to protect Ryan. If he drafted offensive linemen in the first two rounds of the draft, then it wouldn't be as big of deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Ive never seen a team have 3 starting O-Linemen hit free-agency at the same time. I think we should have already wrapped up at least 1 or 2 of them before it came to this.Furthermore, we will be losing McClure to retirement soon, and this is likely his final season if he plays this year. So make that 4 linemen possibly all leaving within 1 year, or at least 3. Thats not good.That's it.I've had it.TD has no business in this business. He should be fired. I hate to say it but I think he is overrated. I have never, ever, seen a column written by a sports reporter that said 3 of the top 5 offensive linemen available for free agency were all from the same team!If this is not amateur hour I do not know what is.Guy has great hair and he gets the job. Just like Mora.Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Name a GM that has done better over the past 3 drafts. One. The way you are acting you would think you could name 31. As it is, I just want one example.Dude.We can start with the GM that ran us out of the Dome last year!Did you see the injuries they withstood?They call that depth sir.You can have blinders on all you want, but nobody would dare say we have an ounce of depth.We are in deep poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 McClure--drafted 7th roundBlalock--drafted 2nd roundDahl--undrafted Free agent---DallasClabo--Undrafted Free Agent--DenverSo of the four guys leaving only Blalock was drafted higher than the mythical 4 round you speak of. We are going to replace with at least the same caliber or higher draftee than what we currently field, and the guys have been riding the pine learning for the last 1-2 years. So tell me after watching them get their butts handed to them on numerous occasions and people screaming they need to be replaced....why the angst when it is finally happening? I really wish you would go to the Eagles board Mr. R, if that is they have lifted the ban on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Im just saying... we have 3 free-agent O-lineman + 1 retiring. All that leaves us is Sam Baker (who I am no fan of playing LT, I think he is more suited to be a LG). So Im a little concerned about this. That is a lot of turnover for an O Line in the NFL, even if we re-sign 1 guy we will still be replacing 3 guys by 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 McClure--drafted 7th roundBlalock--drafted 2nd roundDahl--undrafted Free agent---DallasClabo--Undrafted Free Agent--DenverSo of the four guys leaving only Blalock was drafted higher than the mythical 4 round you speak of. We are going to replace with at least the same caliber or higher draftee than what we currently field, and the guys have been riding the pine learning for the last 1-2 years. So tell me after watching them get their butts handed to them on numerous occasions and people screaming they need to be replaced....why the angst when it is finally happening? I really wish you would go to the Eagles board Mr. R, if that is they have lifted the ban on you.Except here's the thing. Dimitroff did not bring in any of those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Except here's the thing. Dimitroff did not bring in any of those guys.And we all know what you think of TD, the guy who put together a team that constantly wins even though a large portion of the team is young and learning. We know why you hate him, and we know you will never change. Again, go to the Eagles board so you can cheer for your homey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy's Home Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 And we all know what you think of TD, the guy who put together a team that constantly wins even though a large portion of the team is young and learning. We know why you hate him, and we know you will never change. Again, go to the Eagles board so you can cheer for your homey.Constantly wins?Excuse me?Dude. You are talking about consulation prizes.So you go 13-3 in the regular season. If you don't win in the post season it means nothing.If you don't win in the post season, 13-3 is no different from 0-16. You still played 16 games. It's not like you earned 16 games. Those 16 games were given to you. It's like a hand-out. Like welfare.And you wanna get high off of what happened in a 16 game stretch that is basically the equivalent of government/nfl rations?Dude.Advance in the post season and let us claim that we earned something.Don't you ever get tired of being a gracious loser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannonballsghost Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Constantly wins?Excuse me?Dude. You are talking about consulation prizes.So you go 13-3 in the regular season. If you don't win in the post season it means nothing.If you don't win in the post season, 13-3 is no different from 0-16. You still played 16 games. It's not like you earned 16 games. Those 16 games were given to you. It's like a hand-out. Like welfare.And you wanna get high off of what happened in a 16 game stretch that is basically the equivalent of government/nfl rations?Dude.Advance in the post season and let us claim that we earned something.Don't you ever get tired of being a gracious loser? If you don't win in regular season you don't make the post season sherlock ........the team is on the way up and we have the best management we have ever had ............AND HES NOT COMING BACK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcsupersport Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Consultation prize my right butt cheek. Winning is everything, you don't win 9-10-11-12-13 games you don't GET TO THE PRECIOUS POST SEASON. This team for most of it's lifetime didn't get close to the post season on any kind of regular basis. Now we have a team that I can look forward to the probability of having more than 16 games on a regular basis. Our O-line wasn't that good, the QB made them better than they could have been. We are now addressing that issue, heck it was addressed starting 2 years ago, it just took time for the players to mature enough to step in. I want a team that has a dominate O-line and that we didn't have, now we have change that was f-in needed to give us a hope in he-- of having that and people are bi---in like crazy because it is coming. Did Obama sour most people on Hope and change now that they can't stand any change, especially when it was greatly needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dharma Initiative Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Constantly wins?Excuse me?Dude. You are talking about consulation prizes.So you go 13-3 in the regular season. If you don't win in the post season it means nothing.If you don't win in the post season, 13-3 is no different from 0-16. You still played 16 games. It's not like you earned 16 games. Those 16 games were given to you. It's like a hand-out. Like welfare.And you wanna get high off of what happened in a 16 game stretch that is basically the equivalent of government/nfl rations?Dude.Advance in the post season and let us claim that we earned something.Don't you ever get tired of being a gracious loser?What does winning a post season game mean when you get knocked out in the second round? People overrate playoff wins and act like a playoff win means something but regular season games don't. And isn't a first round bye as good as a first round win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 ..AND HES NOT COMING BACKLouis Armstrong put it best, Sam; "Some folks, if they don't know, you can't tell 'em."Hey, Mr. Right, you've been ducking me. When the Eagles roll into town this season, who ya gonna be pulling for? Be honest, if you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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