SyCo Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 My linkAtlanta wide receiver Roddy White can be outspoken, but it usually comes in a playful sort of way. Not this time, though. This time, White comes off sounding a bit like Pittsburgh linebacker James Harrison, who called NFL commissioner Roger Goodell a “crook’’ and a “devil." "It's like a dictatorship," White said on ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike in the Morning." "[Goodell] just comes off as a different kind of guy. ... Just talk to the players a little bit more, and I think people can see eye to eye with him. But he doesn't do that. He doesn't interact with us, so we kinda stay as far away from him as possible." White wasn’t talking only about the league’s labor situation. He was talking about Goodell’s tenure in general, and he’s not the only player unhappy with the way the commissioner hands out fines for on-field infractions and for his strict personal-conduct penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Better start using some of that 4.4 speed Roddy because the Falcon Filter is catching up quick. One of the signs an employer is going to give you the pink slip is the hiring of a replacement. And Julio is built in the exact same mould as Roddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atl/0 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Why should he shut up? It's a known fact the players hate Goodell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy is who he is. He's outspoken and a lot of times the things he says are taken out of context. In my opinion, he said nothing really disrespectful or out of line there. It sounds more like a plea for more communication between the Commish and the players. They need to get on the same page.He may not have chosen the best words because the media will always find a way to make it appear he's saying something else - but honestly, he didn't say anything terrible in that statement - and it was a provoked comment in an interview, not just a tweet on twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 I don't think anything he said was terrible.. but some things just aren't meant for the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Better start using some of that 4.4 speed Roddy because the Falcon Filter is catching up quick. One of the signs an employer is going to give you the pink slip is the hiring of a replacement...Coach Smith to Roddy on his twitter comments that blew up in the media -"Roddy, you just keep being who you are"That was verbatim per Roddy.Roddy is a Falcon for life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borat Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy is a top 3 receiver, and probably my favorite Falcon. but the dude barely literate. He needs to give interviews only about what happens on the field, and nothing else. And if the falcons have to pay him a bonus to shut down his twitter account, so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Goodell's mistake is he is the one stop shop when it comes to penalties, fines, suspensions and appeals. If he created a committee that incorporated reps from the NFLPA and the NFL to agree on fair, general guidelines when it comes to discipline, there wouldn't have been this animosity. Goodell made himself the face of all that is wrong and unfair with the NFL. That coupled with his inability to articulate the owner's demands while threatening a lockout, impersonal handsoff approach when the cameras are off, really damaged his reputation. He has some serious image work to do when business returns. Maybe Roddy should tone down the hyperbole, but he's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy is a top 3 receiver, and probably my favorite Falcon. but the dude barely literate. He needs to give interviews only about what happens on the field, and nothing else. And if the falcons have to pay him a bonus to shut down his twitter account, so be it.Roddy is not illiterate - he can read and write as well as anyone, but he grew up in an area where speech is relaxed and slanged. So did I - and it took me a long time to break some of those habits - I knew the proper way to write and speak - but you tend to fall back into your natural patterns when you aren't working at it specifically.I find Roddy to be very intelligent - and also very emotional. He speaks through his heart - without taking the time to filter out the words - and for that reason, people twist things around and make it look like he's saying something he didn't really intend to say.That doesn't make him illiterate. Maybe a little word lazy - but not illiterate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_truth189 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Actually if you listen to the full interview Roddy makes the best point ANYONE has publicly come out and said. which is that Rodger Goodell doesn't have anything in writing stating what happens when a player makes a mistake. He just wakes up one morning and says eh I feel like giving this guy a 2 game suspension for a DUI, and then giving another player with the exact same DUI charge a 4 game suspension the next week. To the players this is unfair. Sure life's unfair and these players shouldn't be out driving after drinking. But so shouldn't the other, what, 10 million Americans per year that get caught. Roddy is just calling out Goodell to attempt to set things in stone for players so they know when they get any sort of punishment at least they aren't getting a range, but rather one predetermine response. If there is one thing I want Roddy to be vocal about this is it. He didn't say anything wrong, and would NEVER and I mean NEVER pull a James Harrison on his own men. He's standing up for the entire NFL on this one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 LOL you think roddy needs to shut up. you should listen to your own advice. Roddy said nothing wrong and nothing he needs to shut up about. My linkher is the link of the audio of Roddy. He said the roger should have a rule book. and he plans to stay on roger good side.how do you like seeing 2 players who both got a DUI and one gets 2 game suspension and the other gets 4. it is very unfare, and thats what roddy was saying. How would you like it if you went to court with a friend who had the exact same thing. and both of y'alls history was the same. and how would you feel if he gets off free and you have to pay a fine and serve time in jail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy is just calling out Goodell to attempt to set things in stone for players so they know when they get any sort of punishment at least they aren't getting a range, but rather one predetermine response. I agree with this but not knowing the punishment may be an even greater deterrence. If the punishment was set in stone, a player could make the calculated decision and risk getting in trouble with the law. If the punishment is uncertain and the player understands Goodell has been cracking down, the uncertainty itself may prevent a player from getting into trouble.As we all know, uncertainty creates fear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp7833 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Talk about one side of the story.I was listening on ESPN radio when he said these comments and they werent in the light you are taking them at all. He was giving an explanation, he wasnt attacking the commish at all. Get the full story before you start losing it.I thought Roddy handled himself very well the whole day he spent at ESPN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_truth189 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I agree with this but not knowing the punishment may be an even greater deterrence. If the punishment was set in stone, a player could make the calculated decision and risk getting in trouble with the law. If the punishment is uncertain and the player understands Goodell has been cracking down, the uncertainty itself may prevent a player from getting into trouble.As we all know, uncertainty creates fear.What your saying makes sense to an extent. But the NFL should be just like our Justice system, a Democracy. It's why Roddy called Goodell a dictator. In a dictatorship things can happen however one so chooses. I could wake up tomorrow and get a J-walking ticket and get the death penalty. And someone could go on a killing spree and get a slap on the wrist. Sure those are two extremes, but that's a good example of why a Justice system makes sense. You tell people what their predetermined punishment is, and if they choose not to abide by the laws, they get punished. The NFL is first a business as this lockout has shown. The laws in this country make businesses follow rules, and protect employee's from unfair treatment. Who protects the players? Roddy White that's who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B^rooklyn Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 "Please Shut Up" ?? Really? Roddy Is Right, He Has The Right To Speak His Mind On The Matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharky Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 My linkSounds like he kept it respectable to me. Nothings wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy is who he is. He's outspoken and a lot of times the things he says are taken out of context. In my opinion, he said nothing really disrespectful or out of line there. It sounds more like a plea for more communication between the Commish and the players. They need to get on the same page.He may not have chosen the best words because the media will always find a way to make it appear he's saying something else - but honestly, he didn't say anything terrible in that statement - and it was a provoked comment in an interview, not just a tweet on twitter.I heard what Roddy said, and he was very respectful when talking. He sounded NOTHING like Harrison. Anyone who thinks he did is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsd56 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 "It's like a dictatorship," White said on ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike in the Morning." "[Goodell] just comes off as a different kind of guy. ... Just talk to the players a little bit more, and I think people can see eye to eye with him. But he doesn't do that. He doesn't interact with us, so we kinda stay as far away from him as possible.How can anyone find ANYTHING wrong with those words?He is right when it comes to things like fines and such it is/was the commish say and that is it. There is/was no appeal to an outside source or unbiased 3rd party...any appeal of his decision went to HIM.And it is a WELL known fact he he does not communicate with the players the way he could or should.......in fact I read somewhere where HE said he could do a better job at it.People need to stop making mountains out of mole hills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 i agree with everything he said...i've been saying this for the past 2 years...goodell is the worst thing to happen to the NFL in its entire history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 I do too agree with what he said, but he needs to show some media professionalism. Just keep your mouth shut and do your job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sarcomere Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 LOL didn't anybody watch the draft this year??Goodell was booed by the fans on national television for a total of 51 seconds. If the FANS hate the man that much, that probably doesn't even come close to the distaste the players have for him.Goodell is a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_truth189 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) Right but remember its Unprofessional when Roddy respectfully calls him out when asked about it. Edited July 21, 2011 by Dr_truth189 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadMoonRising Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I agree with this but not knowing the punishment may be an even greater deterrence. If the punishment was set in stone, a player could make the calculated decision and risk getting in trouble with the law. If the punishment is uncertain and the player understands Goodell has been cracking down, the uncertainty itself may prevent a player from getting into trouble.As we all know, uncertainty creates fear.wow **** just froze over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch46745 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) The media always mixes up what people say to cause controversy. The way Pat Yasinskas put his article together made it look like Roddy was taking a shot at Goodell but that wasn't Roddy's intentions. I saw when Roddy did that interview on Mike and Mike and also on First Take and NFL Live and he made some pretty good points when it came to him talking about Goodell's self-opinion based decisions on the punishment of players. He stated that there should be actual set punishments for each type of violation and for each time a player continues to violate them. Yasinskas left out all of the points that Roddy made in the interview which makes me think that he just wanted to manipulate what Roddy said in attempt to try and stir something up. Edited July 21, 2011 by ch46745 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Bird 2 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Roddy can say anything he wants. He's earned that right. And I tend to agree with him. Rog is a ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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