MattM12 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Link to videoAtlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank told NFL Network that he is optimistic his fellow owners, who are meeting in Atlanta, will approve a new collective bargaining agreement with the players Thursday."I'm optimistic that we'll get a call for a vote today, and I'm optimistic that the ownership will approve a deal today," Blank said just before the owners began meeting at 10 a.m. ET. "Whether or not the players will have approved it before we vote, I'm not sure."On Wednesday, NFL lead negotiator Jeff Pash said he expected the league and its players to soon reach a deal that would end the four-month-old lockout."It's obviously a complicated agreement, but I think both sides are at the point where they can close, they should close, and we should be in a position to take votes," Pash said.The 32 player representatives did vote Wednesday at NFL Players Association's headquarters in Washington, but it wasn't the type of vote that was expected. Instead of simply approving the draft that lawyers and staff had been working on for the last month, the reps conditionally passed it to the Brady plaintiffs, sources told NFL Network reporter Albert Breer.In other words, the proposal will go to the 10 plaintiffs involved in the Brady antitrust case only if the league meets certain conditions in settling that piece of litigation, and also the TV rights fees case, in which players accused owners of setting up a $4 billion lockout-insurance fund."We still have a lot of work to do," Atlanta Falcons offensive lineman Tyson Clabo told The Associated Press as he left the nearly 10-hour meeting.The players also empowered NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith, their legal counsel and the 13-man executive committee to work out the remaining issues, according to sources. One is the players' pursuit of $320 million in benefits lost as part of the 2010 uncapped-year rules, which were negotiated in the 2006 labor deal.Smith and commissioner Roger Goodell have stayed in close and regular contact throughout these negotiations and have maintained close conversations even at times when the sides were not meeting.Throughout this week, for instance, numerous sources tell NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora, the men have held after-hours discussions of the remaining issues at night, or in the morning, trying to bridge the remaining gaps and forge a global settlement.The good news is, outside of a few minor issues, the players were amenable to terms that would serve as a new labor deal, should the NFLPA re-certify as a union. The Brady plantiffs -- which include quarterbacks Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and Drew Brees -- also would have to sign off for any settlement to be reached.New England Patriots guard Logan Mankins and San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson, two of the 10 plaintiffs, are holding strong to their request for $10 million as part of the antitrust settlement, sources told Breer on Thursday. That's one of a number of issues that relate to the plaintiffs in that case.The NFLPA executive committee will not recommend that player reps vote on any deal until both lawsuits are resolved, multiple sources told La Canfora, and it's unknown when that will be."I think that's the healthy outcome," Pash said, "to have a complete, comprehensive, global agreement that settles all the disputes and puts us on a path where we are going forward together as business partners, the way it should be, rather that going forward with one hand and fighting over something that should be in the past."Pash said he wasn't worried about the players' decision Wednesday."It doesn't impact it at all," Pash said. "We're going to continue to work with the players. We'll find out if there are issues that still need to be negotiated, and we're going to work cooperatively with them through the evening and try to have something in place that both sides can vote on tomorrow morning."Members of the NFL's labor committee will discuss any concerns and go over any questions with lawyers and members of the NFLPA, if needed. And a future vote by player reps could be taken via conference call or other means."I can't speak for what was going on in their caucus, but it's a long, complicated agreement, and there are a lot of issues," Pash said. "We're talking about entering into an agreement that would last for quite a few years, hopefully bring a lot of stability to our relationship for many years to come, and understandably, that is something that people want to take their time and think through."Before Wednesday's meeting, NFLPA president Kevin Mawae cautioned not to assume the lockout will be over by the weekend, saying his group was "not tied" to a deadline for having a deal done by Thursday."We want to go back to work, but we will not agree to a deal unless it's the best deal for the players," Mawae said."Our goal today is to see what is on the table and discuss outlying issues," he added. "The players are not tied to a July 21 timeline. Our timeline is that which gives us the best deal for the players -- today, tomorrow or whatever it might be."If the lockout is going to end in time to keep the preseason completely intact, the parties almost certainly must ratify the deal by Thursday. The St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears are scheduled to open the preseason Aug. 7 in the Hall of Fame Game in Canton, Ohio -- leaving the league and players a timeline that Pash called "tight.""It would be pretty challenging," Pash said when asked if the game will be played. "That's one of the things we'll have to focus on."Goodell and nine of the 10 members of the labor committee gathered at an Atlanta airport hotel Wednesday to go over the final terms of a settlement that lawyers have been hashing out for weeks. The owners broke up for the evening, but Goodell, members of the NFL legal team and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones remained to continue talks.Patriots owner Robert Kraft, who is on the labor committee, didn't participate in the five-hour meeting because his wife died Wednesday after a battle with cancer.Unlock HQ Video HQ video delivered by AkamaiKraft's son, Patriots president Jonathan Kraft, will represent the family at Thursday's meeting, which is scheduled to begin at 10 a.m. ET. Jonathan Kraft will return home Friday for his mother's funeral service, according to the team.If owners do vote Thursday, at least 24 would need to OK the deal. If it's also passed by the players, team executives would be schooled later that day and Friday in Atlanta in the guidelines and how to apply them. Topics would include the 2011 NFL calendar, rookie salary system and new free-agency rules.Several coaches and general managers have said they hope players can report to team facilities immediately to take physicals and get re-acquainted. Training camps would start as soon as next week if a deal is ratified, and teams would like a few days to iron out those details before taking the field.A frenzy of player activity, maybe unprecedented, also is in store. Teams should learn soon how quickly they can sign draft picks, negotiate with their own free agents, sign undrafted rookies, make trades, cut players and sign free agents.NFL Network reporter Albert Breer, NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora, NFL.com senior writer Steve Wyche and The Associated Press contributed to this report. GET HER DONE!Side noteI swear to all that is good in this world. If Logan F'n Mankins and Vincent F'n Jackson ruin this for everyone, we all need to go on the war path. In the biggest, baddest way. 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FlyHighFalcons Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Anybody want to go for a fourth post on this article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regular Guy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Well FlyHigh, you seem to be the Thread Police. I have an idea, why not just relax and let whomever post whatever they want like we let you post whatever you want. It's okay if it was already posted, doesn't bother me a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Anybody want to go for a fourth post on this article?My apologies Fly High, I hope you moderate the Ravens' boards with the same zeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) My apologies Fly High, I hope you moderate the Ravens' boards with the same zealThese are the only boards I'm on bro. Don't get offended just because I called you out. I really don't care that much that you posted the article for the third time. ****, I'll give you a +1 to make you happy. Edited July 21, 2011 by FlyHighFalcons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regular Guy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 My apologies Fly High, I hope you moderate the Ravens' boards with the same zealThat JUST happened :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Well FlyHigh, you seem to be the Thread Police. I have an idea, why not just relax and let whomever post whatever they want like we let you post whatever you want. It's okay if it was already posted, doesn't bother me a bit.I was just point it out my man. We all know there is no point to posting the same article many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regular Guy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I was just point it out my man. We all know there is no point to posting the same article many times.True, but you know it happens daily. Just walk away dude, just walk away I for one had not seen it yet so this was the first one I read. So in that case it looks like others have reposted. I'm not going to go post by post and check dates and times so it's all a moot point really, so I just let it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyHighFalcons Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 True, but you know it happens daily. Just walk away dude, just walk away I for one had not seen it yet so this was the first one I read. So in that case it looks like others have reposted. I'm not going to go post by post and check dates and times so it's all a moot point really, so I just let it be.The fact of the matter is that it's not that hard to take a quick peak at "recently posted topics" to see whether or not it's posted. The end. Who cares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regular Guy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 The fact of the matter is that it's not that hard to take a quick peak at "recently posted topics" to see whether or not it's posted. The end. Who cares.Obviously YOU care, that's why we're talking about it. But I agree, The End. Now we can be friends again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 The fact of the matter is that it's not that hard to take a quick peak at "recently posted topics" to see whether or not it's posted. The end. Who cares.Bad run, 2 posts of similar content in one day.maybe on the next 2.5k of posts i'll learn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regular Guy Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Bad run, 2 posts of similar content in one day.maybe on the next 2.5k of posts i'll learn... :P cism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFalconPokerPro Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Well FlyHigh, you seem to be the Thread Police. I have an idea, why not just relax and let whomever post whatever they want like we let you post whatever you want. It's okay if it was already posted, doesn't bother me a bit.Actually, at work I only have a few minutes here and there to read up on random news. It's a pain in the *** opening a thread only to find out that I've already read an identical article in another thread. I'd rather spend my free time reading up on news that isn't "old news". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 well THAT was a stupid discussion :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 TwoIsm in 3...2...1 "Talk About the Falcons" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durrtay Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 TwoIsm in 3...2...1 "Talk About the Falcons"Well they are a type of bird that I've heard will be setting up a nest in some kind of super bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SugarNips Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 woo hoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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