kane#7 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Whats with the Weems hate???All he did was make plays for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Whats with the Weems hate???All he did was make plays for us...Read through all the post. I do not hate. But I am very fustrated when I see he can call fair catch on the forty and he choices to let it drop and roll to the ten. He did that twice in the no game at home. Plus he would call fair catch when he could have ran for twenty. Very very upsetting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I like weems but his importance was greatly diminished with the kickoff rule changes at the start of the offseason. Still need somebody who can secure punts and potentially make a play though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltstorm2 Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Whats with the Weems hate???All he did was make plays for us...Who's hating on Weems? Matt Ryan doesn't have a good deep ball. Kroy Biermann is a half a step slow to the QB. Mike Peterson isn't great in coverage. Roddy White's been called on unsportsman like conduct calls because of his fiery nature. Michael Turner isn't a very good pass catcher. Tony Gonzales' fuel guage is pointing closer to E than F. John Abraham has missed open sacks. I don't think i'm hating on Matt, Kroy, Mike,Michael,Tony,John or Eric. Those are all good players some of them Pro Bowlers. They all have flaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Falcon Jedi Knight Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 norwood believes he is done?I'm not sure if the falcons will can him. I think they will if they need room for someone else for the 53 man roster. but he is a FA this year.I laugh at his agent though. he states that Norwood has recovered from his injury. I so bad want to ask him "which one?"Norwood is done. He just doesnt have the stamina to play RB in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 No he didn't. He went as a "specialist" meaning - he was in the probowl for his coverage skills, not his return abilities.That may be the technical definition but what NFL player or fan other than the ones of the team the player is on know a player based on his special teams coverage? They used that position to get a guy that was a great returner and deserved to go based on his contributions as a whole on special teams, coverage and returns. To steal a line from FFS1970, Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 That may be the technical definition but what NFL player or fan other than the ones of the team the player is on know a player based on his special teams coverage? They used that position to get a guy that was a great returner and deserved to go based on his contributions as a whole on special teams, coverage and returns. To steal a line from FFS1970, Trust me.Plenty of guys have been famous for being great special team cover guys in the NFL. Elbert Shelley made 4 Pro Bowls as a Special Teams player and the guy didn't return one kickoff or punt in any of those 4 years.Steve Tasker made 7 and all of those were based on his coverage skills.I'm not saying that is what happened with Weems, but, you know, he did lead the Falcons in special teams tackles this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Who's hating on Weems? Matt Ryan doesn't have a good deep ball. Kroy Biermann is a half a step slow to the QB. Mike Peterson isn't great in coverage. Roddy White's been called on unsportsman like conduct calls because of his fiery nature. Michael Turner isn't a very good pass catcher. Tony Gonzales' fuel guage is pointing closer to E than F. John Abraham has missed open sacks. I don't think i'm hating on Matt, Kroy, Mike,Michael,Tony,John or Eric. Those are all good players some of them Pro Bowlers. They all have flaws.nicely said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Plenty of guys have been famous for being great special team cover guys in the NFL. Elbert Shelley made 4 Pro Bowls as a Special Teams player and the guy didn't return one kickoff or punt in any of those 4 years.Steve Tasker made 7 and all of those were based on his coverage skills.I'm not saying that is what happened with Weems, but, you know, he did lead the Falcons in special teams tackles this year.I'll say. Weems only got there cause if how he did on special teams. Pretty sure everyone but weems fans saw this missed advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 You're absolutely right about Weems as a punt returner. I had made a mention of this last year and was flamed to death. Weems fair catches way to many balls that are returnable. This will be only highlighted more this year when Eric won't be returning any kickoff's because of the rule change. Now when Weems does decide to return one he's very shifty, its just getting him to not fair catch.I pointed this out in a thread that Weems fair catches a lot on punts. If its between a Wr(depth) and a rb(we have a F/A) considering we could lose Snelling. I say keep Norwood and let Weems go. I'm a Weems guy but HD can return punts(less FC) and Norwood. Both of whom are better receivers and rb(Norwood) by trade. Move Chris Owens to Weems SPT spot on coverage which he was a Pro-Bowler, not a re-turner. We have to remember this is a MM scheme and when it was at its best is when MM had an explosive rb(Norwood/Quizz). Weems is the odd man out in this scenario.My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I don't have any problem with Weems fair catching punts. It fits right into the Falcons personality of conservative ball control football.The best thing about Eric Weems is easily this though - Zero fumbles in 58 returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Norwood is done. He just doesnt have the stamina to play RB in the NFL.I suppose we could say the same for any player that suffers a serious injury and misses a significant amount of games more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominique is Manufique Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 He did. I am a season ticket holder. I remember, cause I was sitting there the whole time going "WTH is wrong with him"ya, we should go back to adam jennings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I don't have any problem with Weems fair catching punts. It fits right into the Falcons personality of conservative ball control football.The best thing about Eric Weems is easily this though - Zero fumbles in 58 returns.Norwood fits the Falcon scheme more...w/o question. You keep Norwood and HD/MJ12 over Weems. Norwood rb/k-rt and HD WR/Pt-rt, you can fill the coverage hole left by Weems. Who has more value in a deal(trade/draftPk)...Weems(Pro-Bowler), HD(off knee inj.), or MJ12(29 years old)? I don't think it's wise to cut loose of Norwood when we could loose Snelling. Even then I still would rather be deeper at the rb position and keep our WR minus Weems...sad but true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Norwood fits the Falcon scheme more...w/o question. You keep Norwood and HD/MJ12 over Weems. Norwood rb/k-rt and HD WR/Pt-rt, you can fill the coverage hole left by Weems. Who has more value in a deal(trade/draftPk)...Weems(Pro-Bowler), HD(off knee inj.), or MJ12(29 years old)? I don't think it's wise to cut loose of Norwood when we could loose Snelling. Even then I still would rather be deeper at the rb position and keep our WR minus Weems...sad but true.Even if Norwood wasn't made out of porcelain, he is coming off a torn ACL. Weems is an extremely versatile special teams player who will not be expensive to retain. The notion that he would be traded or not resigned is ....bizarre. I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I don't have any problem with Weems fair catching punts. It fits right into the Falcons personality of conservative ball control football.The best thing about Eric Weems is easily this though - Zero fumbles in 58 returns.So him not having a fumble makes up for all the times he just let the ball hit and roll? Go watch what happened during the new orleans games. They hit near the forty twice and ruled to the ten. I would have gladly took a fumble if he would have at least called fair catch on those. Cause loosing sixty plus yards in one game is sad. We could have got two field goals out of that. And we would have won and the saints would have never even had a chance in the playoffs. Michael turner fumbled a few times, didn't stop me from liking him, cause he didn't just look at the ball and say, "hmmmm I just need to lay down cause their us no hole"; he choose to fight through . Sometimes he make it caring 5 guys, sometimes he just get tackled for just a few yard game, few times he loose yardage and very few times he would fumble. I hope td our smith never starts to think like you. Cause we would always end up on the twenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 So him not having a fumble makes up for all the times he just let the ball hit and roll? Go watch what happened during the new orleans games. They hit near the forty twice and ruled to the ten. I would have gladly took a fumble if he would have at least called fair catch on those. Cause loosing sixty plus yards in one game is sad. We could have got two field goals out of that. And we would have won and the saints would have never even had a chance in the playoffs. Michael turner fumbled a few times, didn't stop me from liking him, cause he didn't just look at the ball and say, "hmmmm I just need to lay down cause their us no hole"; he choose to fight through . Sometimes he make it caring 5 guys, sometimes he just get tackled for just a few yard game, few times he loose yardage and very few times he would fumble. I hope td our smith never starts to think like you. Cause we would always end up on the twenty.You act like Weems letting punts hit is a common occurence. It's not. I don't have a copy of that game handy, but I would imagine those kicks were low liners and he didn't want to risk fumbling the ball.Either way, Weems was rock solid, and drama free. The Falcons set a franchise record for fewest turnovers in a season and he played a role in making that happen by allowing the Falcons to have zero turnovers on special teams.And the guy made plays when they were needed. They wouldn't have won the game at Tampa without Eric Weems. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I suppose we could say the same for any player that suffers a serious injury and misses a significant amount of games more than once.Sad to say it is true. Very very hard to return to being good.We know he has the speed and he has it in him, but he has injuries in him as well. I am tore. I don't know what to say. If we should let him go or not. If we could resign him for cheap, then I say we should keep him. If he wants a good bit, then I say we should let him go, cause there is to far of a chance of him getting hurt, and when he gets hurt he is done for the season not just a game or two or three Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 You act like Weems letting punts hit is a common occurence. It's not. I don't have a copy of that game handy, but I would imagine those kicks were low liners and he didn't want to risk fumbling the ball.Either way, Weems was rock solid, and drama free. The Falcons set a franchise record for fewest turnovers in a season and he played a role in making that happen by allowing the Falcons to have zero turnovers on special teams.And the guy made plays when they were needed. They wouldn't have won the game at Tampa without Eric Weems. No way.I an going to fund the tape. Cause I know he could have called fair catch, cause he did and he choose to move away and let it bounce. And also do you not remember when he did it in another game and it hit michael jenkins (i think it was him) on the back off the foot? Could have been all safe if he would have at least called fair catch and got it,.instead he called it and let it bounce into out own player and be called the other teams ball, instead he let it roll 30 yards. I will be finding tapes to show you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mashburn Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 You act like Weems letting punts hit is a common occurence. It's not. I don't have a copy of that game handy, but I would imagine those kicks were low liners and he didn't want to risk fumbling the ball.Either way, Weems was rock solid, and drama free. The Falcons set a franchise record for fewest turnovers in a season and he played a role in making that happen by allowing the Falcons to have zero turnovers on special teams.And the guy made plays when they were needed. They wouldn't have won the game at Tampa without Eric Weems. No way.And we wouldn't have lost the new orleans game without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 And we wouldn't have lost the new orleans game without him.The Falcons wouldn't have lost the NO game if the offense would have managed to score more than 7 points either.Look, you are just barking up the wrong tree. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but Weems is gonna be returning kicks and punts for the Falcons next year and Norwood is gonna be playing for somebody else. That's a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Weems is gonna be returning kicks and punts for the Falcons next year and Norwood is gonna be playing for somebody else. That's a done deal.No it ain't.:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 No it ain't.:PLOL, yeah, actually you are right.It's possible that he won't make anybody's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supes™ Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 It's possible that he won't make anybody's team.No it ain't. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 Norwood has been "done" for quite awhile. I can't remember the last time he actually played a full season without an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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