freebird310 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I don't disagree with you, it doesn't seem likely. But we don't know for sure what the cap will be, and we don't know for sure who will be re-signed. Everything NFL is pure speculation until we have an agreement.I think the Julio trade made it pretty obvious that we want to win now. I doubt very seriously we do go after him, I just think it's way to premature to say one way or the other. If Arhtur and TD really want him, they'll find a way to get him. Personally, I think he's worth trying to get. We'll see.Yep ......Human blankets don't grow on trees ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 I don't disagree with you, it doesn't seem likely. But we don't know for sure what the cap will be, and we don't know for sure who will be re-signed. Everything NFL is pure speculation until we have an agreement.I think the Julio trade made it pretty obvious that we want to win now. I doubt very seriously we do go after him, I just think it's way to premature to say one way or the other. If Arhtur and TD really want him, they'll find a way to get him. Personally, I think he's worth trying to get. We'll see.i think Falcons will be very aggressive - just don't think it will be for Aso. If we got him, it would be exciting for sure. I think its an "either/or" with Nnamdi/Grimes - clearly Nnamdi is better but he will cost double what Grimes will cost - probably a little more than double.What if Falcons signed Aso and Charles Johnson? that would be wild.I may have overstated the "1000-to-1" - and I'm sure if Falcons sign Aso that certain board members will keep bumping this thread from now until 2013 I still will be stunned if it happens. Of course I was stunned about the Julio move as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 i think Falcons will be very aggressive - just don't think it will be for Aso. If we got him, it would be exciting for sure. I think its an "either/or" with Nnamdi/Grimes - clearly Nnamdi is better but he will cost double what Grimes will cost - probably a little more than double.What if Falcons signed Aso and Charles Johnson? that would be wild.I may have overstated the "1000-to-1" - and I'm sure if Falcons sign Aso that certain board members will keep bumping this thread from now until 2013 I still will be stunned if it happens. Of course I was stunned about the Julio move as well.But if Grimes does sign elsewhere, and we don't have to pay him, we could afford Aso more readily, and also gain a #1 pick ......Aso Dunta Franks , then we could use the #1 next year on DE or OT ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 To win, all we need to sign are:Charles JohnsonAlbert HaynesworthZach Miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted July 8, 2011 Author Share Posted July 8, 2011 To win, all we need to sign are:Charles JohnsonAlbert HaynesworthZach Milleryeah, that is easy enough.... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 To win, all we need to sign are:Charles JohnsonAlbert HaynesworthZach MillerHaynesworth alone would improve the pass rush. Too bad it wont be happening in this lifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Nobody man. But you miss my point. People want us to get one of the best defensive players in the NFL. So what? Some of you are making a big deal out of itIf there was 10 threads every day about we are going to go after Peyton Manning, would you not find it moronic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 yeah, that is easy enough.... :unsure:Yep, our pass rush will be set. We won't regress next year by losing Gonzalez and maybe Abraham and not be able to replace them with draft picks. Our D-Line would be:RDE: AbrahamNT: HaynesworthUT: BabineauxLDE: JohnsonTell me how someone can block that next year. Plus you can probably get Haynesworth and Johnson for the price of Asomugha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 To win, all we need to sign are:Charles JohnsonAlbert HaynesworthZach MillerAll you need is an 8 oz. glass and a bottle of bleach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yep, our pass rush will be set. We won't regress next year by losing Gonzalez and maybe Abraham and not be able to replace them with draft picks. Our D-Line would be:RDE: AbrahamNT: HaynesworthUT: BabineauxLDE: JohnsonTell me how someone can block that next year.Kroy would shine with Haynesworth lined up beside him. I'm just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 I get what you are saying. And to answer your question yes I would find it moronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 All you need is an 8 oz. glass and a bottle of bleach.If Falcons want to win, they need to not be afraid to make big moves. Julio was a step in the right direction, now they just need Haynesworth, Johnson, and Miller. TD is much more skilled at bringing quality FAs than drafting guys. Gonzalez and Abraham are guys we need to replace soon. You think we're gonna be able to replace Gonzalez or Abraham with a second round and third round pick next year given how we have yet to develop a WR, DE, or CB? Without adding talent in the FA, we are going to regress after next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Yep, our pass rush will be set. We won't regress next year by losing Gonzalez and maybe Abraham and not be able to replace them with draft picks. Our D-Line would be:RDE: AbrahamNT: HaynesworthUT: BabineauxLDE: JohnsonTell me how someone can block that next year. Plus you can probably get Haynesworth and Johnson for the price of Asomugha.Well I'll just call up Blank and Dimitroff and they'll get right on that. While we're on it, I'll go get Barry Sanders out of retirement as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 If Falcons want to win, they need to not be afraid to make big moves. Julio was a step in the right direction, now they just need Haynesworth, Johnson, and Miller. TD is much more skilled at bringing quality FAs than drafting guys. Gonzalez and Abraham are guys we need to replace soon. You think we're gonna be able to replace Gonzalez or Abraham with a second round and third round pick next year given how we have yet to develop a WR, DE, or CB? Without adding talent in the FA, we are going to regress after next year.Ask the Redskins how that whole, "buy a winning team" thing works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Ask the Redskins how that whole, "buy a winning team" thing works out.The Redskins have more problems than signing FAs. After Brunell (who had 1 good year with the Redskins), they never had a solid QB, which is something you really can't get from the FA. I would ask the Bears how they feel about signing Peppers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 BVG isn't the one on the field. The players have to use their head when disguising a blitz. Look at Moore. He is the best at it and even when the QB knows he is coming, they don't really know from where. Yes, he can tell them to disguise it just like he can tell them to sack the QB but it's ultimately up to the players. The best one he has is when all the LBs are in the gaps so the QB doesn't know who is coming, forcing the RB to stay in and block taking him out of the play. I hate his zone blitzes dropping JA98 and DTs into coverage. Leave that to Biermann/Abe, if anybodyAgree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) Elite CB's make average DE's look elite.. ASO should be the first choice we go after. Also signing average DE's isn't going to make our defense better, Aso would. Blank and TD knows it. Edited July 8, 2011 by Skar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Man Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 To win, all we need to sign are:Charles JohnsonAlbert HaynesworthZach Miller Do you do standup as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Elite CB's make average DE's look elite.Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Link?No wide open WR's = More sack opportunities for our DE's. Fact is; if we only sign a DE, our defense will still be the same, if we sign Aso, our defense improves greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Elite CB's make average DE's look elite.. ASO should be the first choice we go after. Also signing average DE's isn't going to make our defense better, Aso would. Blank and TD knows it.Words of wisdom and truth ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 A solid DT would be better for this team than a big name DE. Brandon Mebane and Tommie Harris should be considered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Right Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Do you do standup as well?We all know the Falcons chance of winning the Superbowl is 1000 to 1 unless they sign these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finally Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 No wide open WR's = More sack opportunities for our DE's. Fact is; if we only sign a DE, our defense will still be the same, if we sign Aso, our defense improves greatly.That is ridiculous. The DL forcing the QB to get the ball out quick is AS important as DBs covering enough to give the DL time to get to the passer. The DL struggles to get pressure with only 4 and that HAS to change or the QB is going to find a target or just take off running. The DL/DB relationship is symbiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 No wide open WR's = More sack opportunities for our DE's. Fact is; if we only sign a DE, our defense will still be the same, if we sign Aso, our defense improves greatly.Asomugha comes here means we're losing either Grimes or Robinson, which means that's going to be only 2 WRs on the field at a time that are well covered. Guess what happened against Green Bay, it wasn't Grimes or Robinson being abused. I'll give you a hint, it was a OUR NICKEL BACK that was getting abused. Only in Madden will you see Asomugha, Brent Grimes, and Dunta Robinson on a Falcons depth chart. People need to get it through their thick head that we can't buy Asomugha on a credit card. We get Asomugha, who's going to get an astronomical contract, we will be losing other quality players. Cutting so-and-so and their 300,000 contract isn't going to cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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