DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 The Jets have an awesome site dedicated to it at http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary11.html. Does anybody have a chart, graph or list that shows the CAP VALUES of who is under contract for this year? I keep hearing people say "there's plenty of money this year," but I want to see more accurate number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Can't help you there but I saw something that I found interesting as would like a capologist's help with as well:Addressing minimum payrolls: This might disappoint low-revenue teams such as Cincinnati and Buffalo, but owners are willing to give players a major improvement in minimum team payrolls. In the prior CBA, a team’s payroll minimum was 86 percent of the salary cap, but that was off just the cap number and teams could build in phony incentives to make up the difference. To get a deal, according to a source, owners now are willing to guarantee close to 100 percent of the salary cap as the minimum amount of payroll on a team’s books. That means a team would have to have a minimum cash payroll of close to $120 million if the cap were at $120 million. High-revenue teams apparently don’t have a problem with that. http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/41255/nfl-labor-talks-what-we-learnedSo this season we hear how teams like Tampa and others have all this cap space to sign players... would the above mean that from year to year every team is close to the cap and you would no longer have teams "with plenty of room under the cap" to be able to go on a spending spree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 try asking capologist for advice, but he is usually in ABF. Not sure if he comes around these parts anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 That "hard floor" for the salary cap is gonna make the Asomugha situation even more complicated. Tampa Bay is probably $50 million under the floor right now, so they would have a motivation to throw a stupid amount of money at Asomugha just so they coul reach the floor. Same goes for Kansas City.The Falcons are probably somewhere around 40 million under where the cap will fall, but they have 14-15 free agents total, and even if they don't resign all of them, they are going to have to replace all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattywankenobi Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I always find various reports contradict each other and I think sometimes that is because of certain incentives that are either likely to be earned or not are not public knowledge.Here's the latest ESPN one. Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebird310 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 That "hard floor" for the salary cap is gonna make the Asomugha situation even more complicated. Tampa Bay is probably $50 million under the floor right now, so they would have a motivation to throw a stupid amount of money at Asomugha just so they coul reach the floor. Same goes for Kansas City.The Falcons are probably somewhere around 40 million under where the cap will fall, but they have 14-15 free agents total, and even if they don't resign all of them, they are going to have to replace all of them.Yea especially with their lovely little Talib situation ..man fk me to tears, it would blow the big one to see Aso in Pewter ...... :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 I always find various reports contradict each other and I think sometimes that is because of certain incentives that are either likely to be earned or not are not public knowledge.Here's the latest ESPN one. LinkHmmmm this is interesting. The site I listed said the Jets had 100 million committed and Pat says 128. Great link, +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 That "hard floor" for the salary cap is gonna make the Asomugha situation even more complicated. Tampa Bay is probably $50 million under the floor right now, so they would have a motivation to throw a stupid amount of money at Asomugha just so they could reach the floor. Same goes for Kansas City.The Falcons are probably somewhere around 40 million under where the cap will fall, but they have 14-15 free agents total, and even if they don't resign all of them, they are going to have to replace all of them.Good point. I hope Kansas City gets their Aso on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconmaniac Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Good point. I hope Kansas City gets their Aso on.There has been alot of talk about either Kansas City or Texans getting Aso! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 There has been alot of talk about either Kansas City or Texans getting Aso!Texans need 3 Asos lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDuB2009 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) There has been alot of talk about either Kansas City or Texans getting Aso!Preferably KC because we wont be seeing them at all unless it's the Super Bowl.Also, interesting to see we're about 28 mil under the last capped year, and apparently 18 below the minimum. Is that with all expiring contracts taken off the list though? That'd make a huge difference considering we have quite a few who are technically not under contract any longer.EDIT: I see it doesn't include restricted free agents but what about unrestricted free agents? Edited June 22, 2011 by CDuB2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peyton Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Preferably KC because we wont be seeing them at all unless it's the Super Bowl.Also, interesting to see we're about 28 mil under the last capped year, and apparently 18 below the minimum. Is that with all expiring contracts taken off the list though? That'd make a huge difference considering we have quite a few who are technically not under contract any longer.That is with 15 players off the books, including the likes of Clabo, Dahl, Grimes, Snelling, Peterson, Nicholas, Bryant, Trey Lewis, and some other guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDuB2009 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 That is with 15 players off the books, including the likes of Clabo, Dahl, Grimes, Snelling, Peterson, Nicholas, Bryant, Trey Lewis, and some other guys.Thanks, so assuming we sign Clabo, Grimes, Snelling, and Peterson (I think that's pretty much the consensus around here). We'd probably be around $120 mil then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I do have a cap spreadsheet for 2010, but I haven't updated it to reflect the 2011 cap hits. The problem with this regime, is that they are much more secretive about the big contract numbers that the previous front office. Whislt some of the detials like total length and value of contract are released, they don't say how the monies are spread out and what binuses/incentives are included - so its impossible to accurately breakdown the numbers to get accurate yearly caphits for guys like Matt Ryan.According to media, we have about $100m of cap commitments for 2011. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Thanks, so assuming we sign Clabo, Grimes, Snelling, and Peterson (I think that's pretty much the consensus around here). We'd probably be around $120 mil then.I keep hearing the cap will be around 125. Gotta cut some players like Chauncey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I believe we have $102M cap commitments for the 2011 season, with most experts predicting the 2011 cap to be between $140-150M.That leaves us 40 odd million to sign Julio Jones and the rest of our draft class, as well as any of our FA we wish to re-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDuB2009 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I keep hearing the cap will be around 125. Gotta cut some players like Chauncey!Yeah 120 was a little optimistic, we definitely have to cut some overpaid players. It would be nice to see who is getting what type of money. I know Chauncey is around 5 mil...doesn't JA98 make about the same? He could be gone as well, although I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 I believe we have $102M cap commitments for the 2011 season, with most experts predicting the 2011 cap to be between $140-150M.That leaves us 40 odd million to sign Julio Jones and the rest of our draft class, as well as any of our FA we wish to re-sign.Who predicted 140-150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yeah 120 was a little optimistic, we definitely have to cut some overpaid players. It would be nice to see who is getting what type of money. I know Chauncey is around 5 mil...doesn't JA98 make about the same? He could be gone as well, although I doubt it.Chauncey is set to make 3 million and JA98 3,558,750. There has to be cheaper solutions for run stuffing DEs out there right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler11 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Who predicted 140-150?http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figuresThe last capped year (2009) was around $130M. I can't see it going down. This was an earlier article by Pat Y stating just that:http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35721/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDuB2009 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Chauncey is set to make 3 million and JA98 3,558,750. There has to be cheaper solutions for run stuffing DEs out there right?That's what I'm thinking. Especially if we do go after Ray Edwards. He can stop the run fairly well, then Biermann and Sidbury get into the rotation more as well as Cliff Matthews. I'd say just stick with that group minus Davis and Anderson who have really done nothing but underachieve. Anderson since he was drafted, Davis since we gave him an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/37327/looking-at-2011-salary-cap-figuresThe last capped year (2009) was around $130M. I can't see it going down. This was an earlier article by Pat Y stating just that:http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/35721/nfc-south-2011-salary-cap-figuresYeah that would be the logical progression but I keep hearing rumblings from fans who insist it will be lowered for reasons in the new CBA. I hope it's 130-140 because 150 just seems high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 The 2009 cap was $128m. Given that the whole labour dispute is about the owners trying to claw back money and there is talk about the players lowering their share of total revenues by as much as 4% or 5% under a new CBA, I can't see the cap to anything like $150m.Clearly revenues have grown in the last 2 years, and which will off-set any reduction in the players overall %. I could see the cap being somewhere between $128m and about $140m at the most. If I had to predciat, I'd say it is most likely to be $130-$135m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMeatTroughsEgo Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 The 2009 cap was $128m. Given that the whole labour dispute is about the owners trying to claw back money and there is talk about the players lowering their share of total revenues by as much as 4% or 5% under a new CBA, I can't see the cap to anything like $150m.Clearly revenues have grown in the last 2 years, and which will off-set any reduction in the players overall %. I could see the cap being somewhere between $128m and about $140m at the most. If I had to predciat, I'd say it is most likely to be $130-$135m.+1 UK. 130-135 seems just about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDuB2009 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 150 would be extremely high, I'd hope for around 137 gives us some room to work with while giving Green Bay almost nothing to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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